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How many of you actually know WTF you are even talking about regarding the TPP?
How many of you have read the entire thing?
How many of you can even name all of the Countries involved? Or describe what the treaty actually does?
I bet the answer is not a damned one of you.
We live in a Country where one of the hottest political debates is over something neither side even knows WTF it is.
God, we're so smart.
Considering this is one of the few issues that really doesn't fall on political lines, I'm interested what DP thinks.
Obama's for it, and all but 5 Republican senators voted to fast track it. About a third of Democrat senators did as well. The vast majority of governors of both stripes support it, including Mike Pence.
On the other side, this is the one big issue that Trump and Sanders actually agree on. Clinton came out against it during the primary after some dithering. Most Democrats and a few Republican Senators are against it.
Here's the wiki article for it, for a brief overview of what it contains: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership
Considering this is one of the few issues that really doesn't fall on political lines, I'm interested what DP thinks.
Obama's for it, and all but 5 Republican senators voted to fast track it. About a third of Democrat senators did as well. The vast majority of governors of both stripes support it, including Mike Pence.
On the other side, this is the one big issue that Trump and Sanders actually agree on. Clinton came out against it during the primary after some dithering. Most Democrats and a few Republican Senators are against it.
Here's the wiki article for it, for a brief overview of what it contains: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership
Of course most of the Globalist "**** America" crowd voted for it.
No, I don't support TPP. One of the problems I have with TPP is that this whole deal was negotiated in secret. If the TPP is so beneficial to us, then why did the meetings have to be in secret?
Considering this is one of the few issues that really doesn't fall on political lines, I'm interested what DP thinks.
Obama's for it, and all but 5 Republican senators voted to fast track it. About a third of Democrat senators did as well. The vast majority of governors of both stripes support it, including Mike Pence.
On the other side, this is the one big issue that Trump and Sanders actually agree on. Clinton came out against it during the primary after some dithering. Most Democrats and a few Republican Senators are against it.
Here's the wiki article for it, for a brief overview of what it contains: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership
No, I don't support TPP. One of the problems I have with TPP is that this whole deal was negotiated in secret. If the TPP is so beneficial to us, then why did the meetings have to be in secret?
How many of you actually know WTF you are even talking about regarding the TPP?
How many of you have read the entire thing?
How many of you can even name all of the Countries involved? Or describe what the treaty actually does?
I bet the answer is not a damned one of you.
We live in a Country where one of the hottest political debates is over something neither side even knows WTF it is.
God, we're so smart.
You forgot to include those who will be voting on it in your list. Did all the congress critters voting for Obamacare, NAFTA, CAFTA, or any of these others secretly negotiated, big ticket, big impact bills or treaties, know precisely what was in said bill?
Isn't the TPP a Conservative thing?
Yes the President is for it. But isn't that only due to compromise with a Republican Congress?
I am having a hard time finding reliable info on who initially supported this thing. But the Liberals seem to have always been against it.
It seems to be a Republican Congress that initially supported this thing, and the only way Obama will pass it is with Republicans.
So my question is why are you not bashing those Conservatives?
How many of you actually know WTF you are even talking about regarding the TPP?
How many of you have read the entire thing?
How many of you can even name all of the Countries involved? Or describe what the treaty actually does?
I bet the answer is not a damned one of you.
We live in a Country where one of the hottest political debates is over something neither side even knows WTF it is.
God, we're so smart.
No, I don't support TPP. One of the problems I have with TPP is that this whole deal was negotiated in secret. If the TPP is so beneficial to us, then why did the meetings have to be in secret?
I haven't read the whole thing, but most of what I think is relevant.
I do think you're probably right that most people on both sides are uninformed about exactly what it is and what it does.
Most smokey back-room deals are not advantageous to the masses.
But that is how sausage is made in DC. If you support that which benefits my campaign's funders then I will support that which benefits your campaign's funders - we both get re-elected so it's a win-win deal and the sheeple are none the wiser.
Greetings, TheGoverness. :2wave:
:agree: If it were that beneficial to our country, it would have been front-page news! We still don't know most of the "fine-print" details, which is usually the most important part of any contract, and how many months has it been? What are we losing now?
Absolutely. I'm hoping someone can be elected to stop this crap. Remains to be seen.
Considering this is one of the few issues that really doesn't fall on political lines, I'm interested what DP thinks.
Obama's for it, and all but 5 Republican senators voted to fast track it. About a third of Democrat senators did as well. The vast majority of governors of both stripes support it, including Mike Pence.
On the other side, this is the one big issue that Trump and Sanders actually agree on. Clinton came out against it during the primary after some dithering. Most Democrats and a few Republican Senators are against it.
Here's the wiki article for it, for a brief overview of what it contains: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership
Considering this is one of the few issues that really doesn't fall on political lines, I'm interested what DP thinks.
Obama's for it, and all but 5 Republican senators voted to fast track it. About a third of Democrat senators did as well. The vast majority of governors of both stripes support it, including Mike Pence.
On the other side, this is the one big issue that Trump and Sanders actually agree on. Clinton came out against it during the primary after some dithering. Most Democrats and a few Republican Senators are against it.
Here's the wiki article for it, for a brief overview of what it contains: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership
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