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Do You Support Donald Trump leading the United States Military in Joining Israel's War Against Iran?

Do You Support Donald Trump leading the United States Military in Joining Israel's War Against Iran?


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Donald Trump has confirmed that our armed forces are engaged over the skies of Iran, and are bombing (or assisting the Israelis in bombing) Iranian targets, both military and civilian. Do you support this action or do you not support this action? Why or why not?


Personally, I vote "No." I do not want to involve ourselves directly in conflicts in the Middle East anymore. What say you?
 
Donald Trump has confirmed that our armed forces are engaged over the skies of Iran, and are bombing (or assisting the Israelis in bombing) Iranian targets, both military and civilian. Do you support this action or do you not support this action? Why or why not?


Personally, I vote "No." I do not want to involve ourselves directly in conflicts in the Middle East anymore. What say you?
I voted "No".
 
Middle choice.
They need to take out that underground nuclear storage facility and only the US has the bunker busters. Otherwise, stay out.
That means you support the United States' entering the war on the side of Israel.
 
That means you support the United States' entering the war on the side of Israel.
I suppose you could interpret that. Otherwise give the bunker buster to the Israelis to use. Either way, the centrifuges need to be destroyed.
 
Nope, not at all. There doesn't seem to be a plan, plus Israel its bag of nutters are running the show, so this looks like it can go all sorts of sideways. There is no universe where I trust Netanyahu to be the one shepherding US troops to fix a war he started. Israel's free to send as many of its own as it likes to nation build or whatever they think they're doing in Iran.
 

Do You Support Donald Trump leading the United States Military in Joining Israel's War Against Iran?

Not only NO, but Hell NO.

Doesn't matter to me who is behind the Resolute Desk, I would never support this sort of move against Iran, unless they directly attacked American's on American soil, and then Congress convened to Declare War on the Nation and people's of Iran, then whip their asses!
 
I suppose you could interpret that. Otherwise give the bunker buster to the Israelis to use. Either way, the centrifuges need to be destroyed.
Can't do that. It requires transportation by the American B-2 stealth bomber, which the Israelis do not have.

As for destroying the centrifuges: whether they have to be eliminated in order to safeguard the continuation of the human race (i.e., to prevent nuclear annihilation) is up for grabs. If it's correct, then the USA, not Israel, should make the decisions re how and WHEN it is done.
 
I'm with the MAGA wing that wants to stay out of this. Israel is talking regime change which is dumb. Israeli troops aren't going into Iran and if they take out the head, who knows who is taking over.
🙂 (y) Lord knows there are plenty of Snakes waiting in the wings!
 
Can't do that. It requires transportation by the American B-2 stealth bomber, which the Israelis do not have.

As for destroying the centrifuges: whether they have to be eliminated in order to safeguard the continuation of the human race (i.e., to prevent nuclear annihilation) is up for grabs. If it's correct, then the USA, not Israel, should make the decisions re how and WHEN it is done.
I never said it should be Israel's decision. The question was whether the US should enter the war and my answer was...........
Middle choice.
Semantics aside, if ONLY the US can destroy those centrifuges, then the US has to "join" the war to that extend. Remember, I also said..........
Otherwise, stay out.
Now the debate will be whether my opinions constitute "support" for the US joining Israel in this war, and that is a matter of interpretation and projecting mind-reading. AND I have no interest in explaining my thinking beyond what I suggested and I will leave the interpretation and mind-reading to you.
 
I never said it should be Israel's decision. The question was whether the US should enter the war and my answer was...........

Semantics aside, if ONLY the US can destroy those centrifuges, then the US has to "join" the war to that extend. Remember, I also said..........

Now the debate will be whether my opinions constitute "support" for the US joining Israel in this war, and that is a matter of interpretation and projecting mind-reading. AND I have no interest in explaining my thinking beyond what I suggested and I will leave the interpretation and mind-reading to you.
Entering the war that Israel has been engaging in - and entering the war on Israel's "side" - effectively grants Israel the decision-making process re the USA military's bombing Iran with bombs only the US can deliver.
 
Donald Trump has confirmed that our armed forces are engaged over the skies of Iran, and are bombing (or assisting the Israelis in bombing) Iranian targets, both military and civilian. Do you support this action or do you not support this action? Why or why not?


Personally, I vote "No." I do not want to involve ourselves directly in conflicts in the Middle East anymore. What say you?
NO. Netanyahu still isn't done killing innocents in his own back yard, he's a war criminal with unsatiated blood lust. I don't condone any of his actions, the Israeli people would be better off booting the criminal out and putting him behind bars where he belongs. IMO.
 
No. Let Israel deal with it.

Nobody wants Iran to have a nuke and it's been something of a sad non-surprise to see certain blindly anti-Israel folk make a show of weeping for Iran's evil and now increasingly dead leadership. Lest anyone pretend to forget, Iran just like its proxy Hamas is sworn to the destruction of Israel and extermination of its Jews. And perhaps that's a sacrifice some "morally superior" American might be willing to make, but you can't very well expect Israelis to make it.

The ridiculousness of the situation is that none of this needed to happen. All Trump had to do was not rip up the nuke deal Obama made since it was working. Whereas now, the choice is (1) let Iran have nukes, thus letting it act far more openly aggressively with far less fear of invasion, or (2) take out its nuke program at risk of blowing up the whole damn region into war, possibly even triggering world war. Hell, Trump greenlit the attack because he thinks it's a negotiating tactic just days before he was supposed to...you know, do his "Art of the Deal" routine. And while he'd almost certainly get nothing, it's not like the situation was going to vastly change in several days...

The goal isn't wrong. The timing and methods are. The leaders in America and Israel are the worst possible for the situation.



But Obama was a black man and hurt Trump's fee-fees at a WH correspondence dinner, so he punished Obama by tearing up the deal, doing nothing, and giving Iran another good 8 years to go to warp speed with its nukes. Leading to...this.

NO. Netanyahu still isn't done killing innocents in his own back yard, he's a war criminal with unsatiated blood lust. I don't condone any of his actions, the Israeli people would be better off booting the criminal out and putting him behind bars where he belongs. IMO.

Is it that you don't know or don't care that Iran is openly sworn to destroying Israel and exterminating its Jews?

The fact that Bibi is evil doesn't mean Israel has no right or duty to defend its citizens.
 
I believe that the outcome of taking out Iranian nukes now will be far less deadly to the world than allowing them to have them.

Towards this end, the more we can allow Israel to do the heavy lifting, the better.
 
Donald Trump has confirmed that our armed forces are engaged over the skies of Iran, and are bombing (or assisting the Israelis in bombing) Iranian targets, both military and civilian. Do you support this action or do you not support this action? Why or why not?
And you got this frem Media-ite?
Personally, I vote "No." I do not want to involve ourselves directly in conflicts in the Middle East anymore. What say you?
Even if Iran attacks an American base or troops?
 
Middle choice.
They need to take out that underground nuclear storage facility and only the US has the bunker busters.
Correct. Only the US has bunker buster bombs with the ability to take it out and it will take two bombing runs with those bunker busters.
Otherwise, stay out.
Unless Iran attacks a US base or troops. if that happens all bets are off.
 
The ridiculousness of the situation is that none of this needed to happen. All Trump had to do was not rip up the nuke deal Obama made since it was working. Whereas now, the choice is (1) let Iran have nukes, thus letting it act far more openly aggressively with far less fear of invasion, or (2) take out its nuke program at risk of blowing up the whole damn region into war, possibly even triggering world war. Hell, Trump greenlit the attack because he thinks it's a negotiating tactic just days before he was supposed to...you know, do his "Art of the Deal" routine. And while he'd almost certainly get nothing, it's not like the situation was going to vastly change in several days...

Bibi has been claiming Iran was weeks away for over a ****ing decade.

Israel attacked Iran for the same reason a dog licks its balls. Because they can.
 
I believe that the outcome of taking out Iranian nukes now will be far less deadly to the world than allowing them to have them.

Towards this end, the more we can allow Israel to do the heavy lifting, the better.
According to who? No evidence has ever been presented to suggest Iran is interested in starting a nuclear war.
 
Donald Trump has confirmed that our armed forces are engaged over the skies of Iran, and are bombing (or assisting the Israelis in bombing) Iranian targets, both military and civilian. Do you support this action or do you not support this action? Why or why not?


Personally, I vote "No." I do not want to involve ourselves directly in conflicts in the Middle East anymore. What say you?
I voted no because although I despise the regime in Iran, I think our actions here will put either Taiwan or South Korea (if not both) on the fast path toward nuclearizing by the end of Trump's term.

Furthermore, it seems clear that Iran is/was not close to developing a nuclear weapon - our own security apparatus confirmed that, and while I understand that Donald thinks different, he also thinks that windmills cause cancer, Venezuelans hacked voting machines to steal the 2020 election from him, California forests need Swedish raking, electric boats attract sharks, the Haitians of Ohio are eating the cats and Kamala Harris possesses secret hurricane manipulation technology. So, his person opinions on Iran's current status are dubious at best.
 
I suppose you could interpret that. Otherwise give the bunker buster to the Israelis to use. Either way, the centrifuges need to be destroyed.
I think the bunker busters in question have to be delivered by B-2 bombers or B-52s, neither of which Israel possesses.
 
Donald Trump has confirmed that our armed forces are engaged over the skies of Iran, and are bombing (or assisting the Israelis in bombing) Iranian targets, both military and civilian. Do you support this action or do you not support this action? Why or why not?


Personally, I vote "No." I do not want to involve ourselves directly in conflicts in the Middle East anymore. What say you?

He backdoored alluded to it, at least initially, by referring to "We" without explaining that we meant we just backed it or were directly involved. He didn't do that until it was obvious the Israel attack had been successful.

He "bandwagoned it" after the fact. What a weasel Trump is.
 
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