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Ha, interesting that you post this given the discussion in another thread.
Military Keynesianism is about the only similarity i can see (disregarding corporatist similarities seen in all developed nations).
But I love your avatar.:mrgreen:No, I don't.
I am talking about the US, especially since year 2000. I am talking about the methods of the Republican party.
I am talking about things like justifications for going to war, the distortion and propaganda surrounding it. I am talking about the police state, and increased right of the government. I am talking about propaganda and brainwashing in general, I am talking about the agenda of the political class, I am talking about foreign policy.
I am basically asking, did the US learn more FROM NAZI Germany, then BY(the bad example)..
Obviously the U.S. will never be Nazi Germany, but an ultra-nationalistic militarist police state marked by hysteria, xenophobia, anti-intellectualism, exceptionalist and expansionist foreign policies etc., etc. is very much a possibility. To a significant extent those elements (or their foundations) are already in place.There are similarities between any two countries, and any two governments, simply by the nature of what countries and governments are. So yes, there are some similarities, but we are not becoming "like" nazi Germany. Not Bush, not Obama, not Bush the elder, not Reagan, not any president or congress in my lifetime has moved us to be in any significant way like nazi Germany. Those on both sides who make nazi comparisons are either ignorant, or irrational.
Obviously the U.S. will never be Nazi Germany, but an ultra-nationalistic militarist police state marked by hysteria, xenophobia, anti-intellectualism, exceptionalist and expansionist foreign policies etc., etc. is very much a possibility. To a significant extent those elements (or their foundations) are already in place.
I'm no fan of Obama or most Democrats (e.g. too many unprincipled centrists) but unfortunately most of their conservative critics are big supporters of war "socialism" and corporate "socialism" (which are just as "socialist" as anything supported by the Democrats). It's hard to think of anything more statist, collectivist, and big government than the military or police state. "Defense" contractors and most corporations for that matter are far bigger welfare queens than anyone in the ghetto.the Americans are doing what they can to get the socialists and socialism out of government to forestall this.
I'm no fan of Obama or most Democrats (e.g. too many unprincipled centrists) but unfortunately most of their conservative critics are big supporters of war "socialism" and corporate "socialism" (which are just as "socialist" as anything supported by the Democrats). It's hard to think of anything more statist, collectivist, and big government than the military or police state. "Defense" contractors and most corporations for that matter are far bigger welfare queens than anyone in the ghetto.
*Note: none of these "socialisms" are what I consider real socialism, but what's good for the goose....
I am talking about the US, especially since year 2000. I am talking about the methods of the Republican party.
I am talking about things like justifications for going to war, the distortion and propaganda surrounding it. I am talking about the police state, and increased right of the government. I am talking about propaganda and brainwashing in general, I am talking about the agenda of the political class, I am talking about foreign policy.
I am basically asking, did the US learn more FROM NAZI Germany, then BY(the bad example)..
The average European....
Insulting America in order to appease internal personal turmoils about the depravity of their own continent. Of all the empires or civilizations in history to seek similarity to (Greek, Roman, British) they will always seek their own Nazi Germany in order to soothe their history.
Of any of the nations in the west to resemble Germany, one could make easy argument over France's behaviors in Algeria where hundreds of thousands were publicly tortured. But making comparisons to Germany would have been unthinkable back then because people's memories were still very clear on the matter. Today? A few waterboarding cases make us Nazis. The ignorant throw a parade after every American stumble and such stumbles absolutely have to be compared to Nazi Germany, don't they? It's fashionable in anti-Americanist Europe. Hell, today Germany isn't even guilty for its past. We call it "Nazi" Germany as if separate from the whole. America doesn't even get that pathetic consideration by those who seek to frangrance their stench.
No matter what the thread, you seem to constantly infer that Europeans are in denial of past atrocities ......
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