Do Progressives Want Conflict or Unity?

[Logician Man]

< I'm going to help you follow the rules even though you hate rules .......>

From @Ren's post# 274 ---> "Shut up a minute....."

 

[Ren]

From @Ren's post# 274 ---> "Shut up a minute....."

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The Left Goes to War with Itself​

A fierce conflict is brewing among progressives over how best to effect change.

Unlike Grim, Colman doesn’t make an argument about this. He quotes some activists saying the emphasis on a racial equity agenda reflects both effective coalition-building and a more sophisticated understanding of the way despoiling natural resources has occurred in close concert with prejudice against historically marginalized groups. He also quotes some who worry that “overreach” on too many issues risks diluting the core mission.

“If you’re optimistic, it’s creative destruction,” Justin Guay, director of global climate strategy with environmental group the Sunrise Project, told Colman. “It’s just going to be messy for a while.” He added a warning: “I think the challenge we face from a climate perspective is we’re running out of time.”

The Left Goes to War with Itself

A fierce conflict is brewing among progressives over how best to effect change.

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[Ren]

You being interested in a bunch of blatant lies says more about the kind of fairy tales you are fascinated in that anything else.

We certainly can’t have Christians imposing their religion on everyone else in a free society, no, which is why you aren’t interested in any such thing

History​

Pre-Progressive Era​

The first progressive thinkers and the birth of progressive ideology owe its existence to Henry George's book Progress and Poverty.[3][4][5] (See section Henry George: Ideological Influence) Early on, supporters of George (sometimes called "Georgists") contrasted themselves as "progressives" (a cue to the book title) with the "moderates" who supported land ownership.[6]


Edward Bellamy
Another book that had far reaching implications for the coming growth of the progressive movement was the publication of Looking Backward,[3][7] where author Edward Bellamy uses the label of Nationalism to create a movement aiming toward greater state power at the expense of the individual. As "progressive minded" individuals increased in numbers over the decade of 1890, their popularity turned into a movement and became the dominant ideology of an era.

The beginnings of the liberal hivemind. It's interesting stuff!

 

[Tigerace117]

History​

Pre-Progressive Era​

The first progressive thinkers and the birth of progressive ideology owe its existence to Henry George's book Progress and Poverty.[3][4][5] (See section Henry George: Ideological Influence) Early on, supporters of George (sometimes called "Georgists") contrasted themselves as "progressives" (a cue to the book title) with the "moderates" who supported land ownership.[6]


Edward Bellamy
Another book that had far reaching implications for the coming growth of the progressive movement was the publication of Looking Backward,[3][7] where author Edward Bellamy uses the label of Nationalism to create a movement aiming toward greater state power at the expense of the individual. As "progressive minded" individuals increased in numbers over the decade of 1890, their popularity turned into a movement and became the dominant ideology of an era.

The beginnings of the liberal hivemind. It's interesting stuff!

What’s interesting is how blatantly conservapedia lies.....and how eagerly people like you cling to those lies

 

[Ren]

What’s interesting is how blatantly conservapedia lies.....and how eagerly people like you cling to those lies

Progressive Era​

For a more detailed treatment, see Progressive Era.

The "Progressive Era" was a time period in American History in which Progressives made their way into segments of academia, media, and government, and were successful at implementing their policies and cultural changes based on their ideology. In addition to the aforementioned, other important thinkers of early Progressivism include Herbert Croly, John Dewey, and the writings of the segregationist Woodrow Wilson. These and other lesser known thinkers put considerable effort into formulating a way to build authoritarian mechanisms into the free society of America, typically disguised as beneficial efforts.

Since the beginnings of progressivism, their leaders have shown a consistent disdain for the American Founding. One author, Walter Weyl, who was a co-founder of The New Republic wrote: "We are profoundly disenchanted with the fruits of a century of independence".[8] This is something key that marks the difference between the progressives of the 20th century and their reforming predecessors, republican or democrat. The philosophical opposition that progressives hold for the Founding of the country is central to everything that has happened since.

Doesn't get more anti-American than that, does it pal.

 

[Tigerace117]

Progressive Era​

For a more detailed treatment, see Progressive Era.

The "Progressive Era" was a time period in American History in which Progressives made their way into segments of academia, media, and government, and were successful at implementing their policies and cultural changes based on their ideology. In addition to the aforementioned, other important thinkers of early Progressivism include Herbert Croly, John Dewey, and the writings of the segregationist Woodrow Wilson. These and other lesser known thinkers put considerable effort into formulating a way to build authoritarian mechanisms into the free society of America, typically disguised as beneficial efforts.

Since the beginnings of progressivism, their leaders have shown a consistent disdain for the American Founding. One author, Walter Weyl, who was a co-founder of The New Republic wrote: "We are profoundly disenchanted with the fruits of a century of independence".[8] This is something key that marks the difference between the progressives of the 20th century and their reforming predecessors, republican or democrat. The philosophical opposition that progressives hold for the Founding of the country is central to everything that has happened since.

Doesn't get more anti-American than that, does it pal.

Only in the minds of the pathological liars at conservapedia

 

[Crunchtime]

Oh, boy, we've got another live one. lol

OK, point out where I say I dislike homosexuals; not homosexual behavior, mind you, but homosexuals themselves. Point out where I say that.

Now, I stopped reading your post the second I came across that line because it's inaccurate. That leads me to believe that your entire post is inaccurate, so that leaves us a few choices: 1. you can retract your entire post and start over, or 2. We can go through each line of your post and address the inaccuracies together, or 3. You can simply walk away without a response at all.

Make your choice.

These progs just make crap up as they go, and then act like it’s factual. This guy is one of the worst on the board. Their tactics are universal. They all do the same thing. Shout you down. Make you tired. Call you names. Communist tactics. Bullets is all they will ever understand. It’s coming to that. It will be a left wing group that kicks off a civil war, but they will end up like the CSA. The problem is many will die along the way. They’re so stupid they don’t see it coming.

 

[Tigerace117]

These progs just make crap up as they go, and then act like it’s factual. This guy is one of the worst on the board. Their tactics are universal. They all do the same thing. Shout you down. Make you tired. Call you names. Communist tactics. Bullets is all they will ever understand. It’s coming to that. It will be a left wing group that kicks off a civil war, but they will end up like the CSA. The problem is many will die along the way. They’re so stupid they don’t see it coming.

Oh look, hysterical sobbing about “communism”. Too ****ing funny.

 

[Crunchtime]

Oh look, hysterical sobbing about “communism”. Too ****ing funny.

And a typical left wing nut response. Congratulations. You didn’t break the mold.

 

[Tigerace117]

And a typical left wing nut response. Congratulations. You didn’t break the mold.

Insipid whining of “but left wing” is as meaningless as ever.

 

[Hamish Howl]

These progs just make crap up as they go, and then act like it’s factual. This guy is one of the worst on the board. Their tactics are universal. They all do the same thing. Shout you down. Make you tired. Call you names. Communist tactics. Bullets is all they will ever understand. It’s coming to that. It will be a left wing group that kicks off a civil war, but they will end up like the CSA. The problem is many will die along the way. They’re so stupid they don’t see it coming.

You guys really aren't scary.

Just so you know.

 

[Crunchtime]

You guys really aren't scary.

Just so you know.

And you guys really aren’t progressive. Just so you know.

 

[Hamish Howl]

And you guys really aren’t progressive. Just so you know.

I have never once claimed to be progressive.

Is there some kind of point, here?

 

[Top Cat]

Remind me again which party is talking civil war?

 

[Ren]

Only in the minds of the pathological liars at conservapedia

Progressivism: the cancer that kills everything it touches.

Social justice​

The Progressives pushed for social justice, general equality and public safety, but there were contradictions within the movement, especially regarding race. To many Progressives, especially in the South, black suffrage was a corrupting force (the votes were presumably purchased or controlled by ministers) and had to be minimized. The Catholics had their own version of the movement which they applied to their schools, colleges, and hospitals.

 

[Tigerace117]

Progressivism: the cancer that kills everything it touches.

Social justice​

The Progressives pushed for social justice, general equality and public safety, but there were contradictions within the movement, especially regarding race. To many Progressives, especially in the South, black suffrage was a corrupting force (the votes were presumably purchased or controlled by ministers) and had to be minimized. The Catholics had their own version of the movement which they applied to their schools, colleges, and hospitals.

Only in the minds of the liars at Conservapedia

 

[Ren]

Only in the minds of the pathological liars at conservapedia

Women​

Women came to the fore in the Progressive era and proved their value as social workers. Jane Addams of Chicago was only the most prominent of many leaders. The woman suffrage movement was a key part of Progressivism. It started in the west (with California giving the women the vote in 1912 after several smaller states), and moved east. It was opposed by ethnic machines in the northeast and traditionalists in the South, but finally became law by Constitutional amendment (the 19th) in August 1920.

Progressive Era - Conservapedia

www.conservapedia.com

Women made good social workers for the progressives back in the day. It appears they understood their place amongst the elitist assholes. Good for them, I guess...

 

[ecofarm]

No unity with racists and fascists. **** Trumpers.

 

[Ren]

No unity with racists and fascists. **** Trumpers.

Don't be a hater. Barack Obama and Michelle Obama are no longer in the WH. You need to learn how to love America, not try to twist it into some deranged nightmare.

 

[ecofarm]

Don't be a hater. Barack Obama and Michelle Obama are no longer in the WH. You need to learn how to love America, not try to twist it into some deranged nightmare.

Trumpers can eat a shit. They're garbage and unity with them would be degradation.

 

[Ren]

Trumpers can eat a shit. They're garbage and unity with them would be degradation.

Hate consumes the Left. It's why they vandalize cities and set buildings on fire.

 

[ecofarm]

Hate consumes the Left. It's why they're always vandalizing cities and setting buildings on fire.

I'm not a lefty and Trumpers are not the right. Trumpers always have a victim fantasy.

 

[bomberfox]

Nah **** it. Conflict. There never has and never will be peace or unity with maga.

 

[Ren]

I'm not a lefty and Trumpers are not the right. Trumpers always have a victim fantasy.

You're arguing with lefties.

There's no victim fantasy over here, but there is on the left; in fact, lefties are so bad that they're more crisis whores than actual victim fantasizers.

 

[Ren]

Trumpers can eat a shit. They're garbage and unity with them would be degradation.

Degradation is at the core of leftism. In fact, one could say leftism IS degradation.