its pretty much a given anything the government subsidizes increases. we have subsidized sloth and dependence and it has increased
If the numbers from 2008 that I provided up thread are anomalous and are weighted more heavily toward low income people--is that what you were implying?--then in other years, the disparity among who votes must favor those with greater incomes even more.one of the reasons why Obama won was the huge number of first time black voters
it caused one of my friends to lose in Ohio as these new voters voted dem across the board
he won his seat back when the hordes of new obama voters didn't show up in 2010-he crushed the guy who took his job
It does do that, but that isn't enough. Mere survival isn't a life its just an existence. We need a much stronger social-safety net at least as strong as the one in Norway to provide them with a decent standard of living even when they can't find work. A few of the things I suggest though this is not at all a full list but merely the least we need to do: Universal health care for all,free university education for all,a living wage for all, a much stronger well-fare program so that the poor can live decent lives.It helps them survive. Which is fine by me.
It does do that, but that isn't enough. Mere survival isn't a life its just an existence. We need a much stronger social-safety net at least as strong as the one in Norway to provide them with a decent standard of living even when they can't find work. A few of the things I suggest though this is not at all a full list but merely the least we need to do: Universal health care for all,free university education for all,a living wage for all, a much stronger well-fare program so that the poor can live decent lives.
It does do that, but that isn't enough. Mere survival isn't a life its just an existence. We need a much stronger social-safety net at least as strong as the one in Norway to provide them with a decent standard of living even when they can't find work. A few of the things I suggest though this is not at all a full list but merely the least we need to do: Universal health care for all,free university education for all,a living wage for all, a much stronger well-fare program so that the poor can live decent lives.
Not everyone can afford to college.
Not everyone has the opportunity
or desire to go to college
Those people have a right to a good job and good life.
Oh and I've seen poor people who work 2 jobs and are just barely able to get by, .....
Meanwhile the vaunted "job creators" are busy creating jobs in China, because we sign free trade agreements with them.
It does do that, but that isn't enough. Mere survival isn't a life its just an existence. We need a much stronger social-safety net at least as strong as the one in Norway to provide them with a decent standard of living even when they can't find work. A few of the things I suggest though this is not at all a full list but merely the least we need to do: Universal health care for all,free university education for all,a living wage for all, a much stronger well-fare program so that the poor can live decent lives.
Just saw on tv that the poverty level in 1965 was 14.3%. Today's poverty level is 14%. So, after trillions of dollars spent on entitlements, they don't help the poor get out of poverty. All they do is maintain the poor under the Democrat's wings during elections. Democrats don't care about u, they just use it as a gimmick for your vote.
yeah, working for a living is for suckers. let's just all suck off the govt teat. but wait....if everyone does that...who will pay for all of our free goodies... :ssst:
In general I would agree with that opinion. Entitlements in this case meaning, food stamps, unemployment, welfare, etc... were and are only meant as a short term hand out, to get folks over the roughest times until they can pull themselves back into the work force, get their lives straightened out, or whatever. In some cases what it's turned out to be is a crutch, where individuals are gaming the systems and living off those entitlements or, are switching on and off so as to meet the requirements but really have been living off the system for years and longer. I think we all know someone who's gaming the system - I've spoken of my cousin's wife a few times who's been on unemployment now I guess for years (3 or 4 maybe? Lost track) but she basically has found out that the government will pay her as much or better in some cases than if she actually worked - therefore she takes jobs with approximately the same amount of pay so she doesn't lose benefits and then works it out so that she doesn't work too long and can then stay unemployed and get paid. She also uses foodstamps and get's assistance through the local church. However she and her sister save up this money and go on European vacations and shop.
. For the poor to be free capitalism must be abolished
I love how all you people who are argue again the social-democracies of Europe and say people who want them are lazy ignore the fact that they have much lower unemployment than here. So how is it that if no one works in social-democracies, they have more people working per their population than we do? Answer me that, until you do your argument are pointless.
Look at the stats I just posted. The numbers speak for the themselves.Try again...see if you can actually structure the sentence in a manner that is coherent.
The US has 9% unemployment, but that only counts current state unemployed...it doesnt count those that dont file claims, those who have exhausted benefits, or those that never bothered to work. Actual unemployment is significantly higher.
England is no peach. "Almost 1.5 million people in Britain have never done a day’s work in their lives, official figures reveal. The total includes around 800,000 aged between 25 and 64 who have never had a job of any kind. A further 600,000, aged under 25, are not in education or training of any sort."
1.5m Britons haven't had a job since they left school | Mail Online
So again...just what question are you asking? And where in the wide world of sports do you or ANYONE get the notion that people are 'entitled' to be GIVEN ****?
And finding out what skills society values, and developing them, is hard work.Second, Pay is not a function of "hard work," it's the function of society's value of a skill.
First, the marginal tax brackets of the lower class have barely moved in 30 years. So without brackets that shift with inflation, taxes have effectively increased on the poor.
Second, Pay is not a function of "hard work," it's the function of society's value of a skill.
Yeah right... Most of those social-democracies are going broke. Look at Greece as an example. People are in the street because they WANT their "deserved" entitlements and the gov doesn't have the money to provide them. This is what's happening on America.....wake up. Democrats have created a "we deserve" mentality and just so they can gain more votes. Democrats need the poor to stay poor for their votes....
true. therefore those without skills shouldn't get paid.
2nd Thessalonians chapter 3 verse 10: ...If any will not work, neither let him eat.
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