You're comparing polls that PREDICT an event to polls that REPORT a reality. That's a false comparison. Your question has been answered. Deal with it.
I wouldn't deny that is likely true. But that fact doesn't negate at all the equally true fact that yes, when a 50k a year female paralegal marries a 100k a year male banker and then quits her 50k job to raise kids, forever leaving the workforce, while that scenario does lead to a stable marriage, that scenario is also the grand exception for degreed women
Nobody is denying it's a great story. It is. What I am saying it is not possible for most degreed women. There are only so many degreed men earning more than degreed women and those small numbers in the future based on graduating rates will be even smaller, meaning that nice story will become rarer and rarer. The future is one of depressed female incomes, less high earning men, and less marriages. Companies will simply pay these women less, they will not meet the past mens high incomes to the future womens. We are already seeing this. The global market does not pay a woman as much as a man. So in the end, feminist based societies will simply decline to the face of still patriarchal societies.
That said. The entire point is, the vast majority of degreed women will NEVER find Mr. 75-100k because they were NEVER going to. He didn't, doesn't exist on enough of a numerical level to be found. So what will, are degreed women making 50-70k a year doing? They're waiting for a 75-100k man that doesn't exist to pop up. Well. That's going to be a long wait, primarily because he isn't coming and wasn't. Equally important to this phenomena is the fact that these women cannot marry down.
Consider. A degreed woman making 50-75k cannot feasibly marry and culturally integrate with a man making 40-60k for life. It isn't going to happen. The class structures are too different. Her whole life has been geared towards someone of even a higher class than her own. Not merely that, but no lower class, lower income man would actually marry her. Men marry down in class and income, not up.
The men that she was demographically meant for will now not marry her, nor are they even willing to consider her for the above reasons, hence she has no options. Her own naturally available men will not marry her and the ultra high income sets of men she was geared for in life don't exist numerically speaking. The result we are seeing in the West is obvious and clear. These women have nowhere to go other than to keep on working. The irony of which makes them even less and less marriageable.
Well, why don't we look at statistics?
According to Pew Research, 69% of women with a college degree are married compared to 56% of women without a college degree. This means that women with degrees are more likely to be married than women without them.
Answer: no.
I question the bias of those studies. Since half of all marriages end in divorce, and 95% of all women benefit financially from divorce, it stands to reason that marriage would have positive aspects on women and negative aspects on men.
I know I get giddy at the idea that a woman can take half my crap away for little to no reason.
I find if you earn more than your partner..you somehow emasculate them..
I would feel really odd if I made more money than my husband.
People have strange beliefs about what "Housewife" is...and that not being employed outside the home...somehow means that they don't earn their way. It's damn hard work...and if women charged for the work that they do in the home...it would run in the neighborhood of $50K a year.
Those that believe income defines who is the leader of the family...very lacking in understanding marital relationships.
And those who believe that women who earn more than their husbands...damage their self-esteem...is a trip back to the 1950's thinking.
Times have changed...but apparently a lot of people live in a very stagnated delusion about what's going on in the here and now.
Then why do more women graduate from college than men? This seems like a observation made from bias and stereotypes (unless it is an observation from many decades ago). There are fewer men in college than women, especially nowdays, and most women/girls entering college know this. But there aren't just more entering college, but also graduating from college. And young girls entering college research colleges more on their academics and programs than young men do.
Young Women Are More Likely Than Men to Aspire to College, and to Graduate - Students - The Chronicle of Higher Education
What you describe sounds like gender stereotyping that is very outdated. It is from a past time when young women very well may have went to college to earn their "MRS", instead of an actual degree. That is not the case anymore.
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That said. The entire point is, the vast majority of degreed women will NEVER find Mr. 75-100k because they were NEVER going to. He didn't, doesn't exist on enough of a numerical level to be found. So what will, are degreed women making 50-70k a year doing? They're waiting for a 75-100k man that doesn't exist to pop up. Well. That's going to be a long wait, primarily because he isn't coming and wasn't. Equally important to this phenomena is the fact that these women cannot marry down.
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If a question and phenomena leading to that question has to be asked, it is likely the case.
All the polls said Bush would lose his second term. So much for those polls. Considering that was an easily measurable thing, I'd say social phenomena polls are even less accurate, especially considering half the editors/authors are likely single degreed women (lol).
I guess you would have to look at the studies and what they are measuring. The ones I have seen are, as I said, from the nineties - and a lot of things have changed in the last 15 - 20 years. I understand there was international research looking at this - but if you consider that globally, women have a one in three chance of being in a relationship with an abusive partner, then high levels of depression and anxiety may well be quite common.
often mental health issues are associated with a sense of powerlessness and not having control over your own life.
Re women taking half of what you've got - I guess it also depends what laws you have. My daughter owned her house outright when she met her partner, but if they split up, he would legally be entitled to make a claim against her assets - here the law doesn't differentiate on the basis of sex, and as far as I know has not done for some time. I have known a few women who have lost assets because they dismissed the idea that an ex husband/boyfriend could legally be entitled to something they believed was theirs alone.
Still, they are better off than what they would have been prior to some 19th century legislation (such as the married women's property act - or whatever your country/state's equivalent is) when on marriage, a woman's property/inheritance would pass into the control of her husband, to do with whatever he wished.
Yes - I don't support alimony . . .the only time I recall a woman paying alimony was Madonna. It's not like the spouse in those high-dollar marriages are poor themselves. Alimony should only be a factor if being divorced would throw either one into poverty - and then, only if the receiver of alimony didn't spur on the divorce (like cheat)
I'm a businessman by nature. I tend to see the world through green-tinted glasses. Also it never arose in my brain like that, because I don't rely on someone else to make me happy. It's my vice to be 99% left-brained.
Well yeah, back then women were essentially chattel. I imagine today would be better. And, yes, I imagine there are plenty of cases where the woman is financially "better off" than the newly-divorced husband and has to take a purse-hit to finalize it. However, I imagine that the percentage of situations where that's true is probably low. You hear all the time about high-profile marriages going kaput and the man getting taken to the cleaners. Situations where the ultra-rich woman getting robbed through divorce is low.
Other than the fact that I don't see too many rich women "marrying down", I think the biggest reason is that wealthy women are more likely to enter a marriage with a pre-nup (which is a completely intelligent and logical move). Men don't do that as much - due to a mixture of the fact that many women will throw a fit and start guilting them with things like "you clearly don't trust me" and "I can take care of myself", and men lacking in testicular fortitude to stick to their guns.
Yes - I don't support alimony . . .the only time I recall a woman paying alimony was Madonna. It's not like the spouse in those high-dollar marriages are poor themselves. Alimony should only be a factor if being divorced would throw either one into poverty - and then, only if the receiver of alimony didn't spur on the divorce (like cheat)
Many women are now having to pay alimony to their husbands.
Liza Mundy: In De-Gendering of Divorce, Women Pay Ex-Husbands Alimony | TIME.com
Now, I agree with ending lifetime alimony and limiting alimony altogether. And I don't think any person who cheats on their spouse should get alimony without mitigating circumstances (such as he/she cheated also, or they had an agreed upon open relationship). It should definitely take into account all evidenced information of both parties and be reasonable.
The most prominent (although fictitious) example that I can't help but get out of my head in this discussion is Doofensmirtz's wife on Phineas and Ferb. He basically tries to make devices that would allow him to rule the world living solely off his wife's alimony payments (which also pay for his apartment). (Yes, I know it's a cartoon, but that concept is interesting to me.)
The fact that there's an article on the subject means that this is a highly rare occurrence. Remember, dog bites man is not news. Man bites dog is.
The fact that there's an article on the subject means that this is a highly rare occurrence. Remember, dog bites man is not news. Man bites dog is.
I think it is showing that it is becoming much more common as women start making more than their husbands, in some cases taking care of their husbands rather than being taken care of by their husbands.
It should become more common. Last I checked, unemployment amongst men is higher than women...and for the life of me, I can't figure out why. Well, I can figure out why in the public sector, but not the private one.
The wage disparity is also not as evident and sizable as people want to believe.
It is becoming more common, but at the same time alimony itself is becoming less common so there is give and take there. And since alimony isn't really tracked overall, then it isn't really known how these compare.
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