Do Degreed women have a harder time finding a Husband?

[Ryan5]

Do they?

 

[TurtleDude]

Do they?

depends

if they are looking for insecure losers maybe

they say the best marriages are a guy a few years older marrying a woman better educated

that was my parents successful combination Mom had a masters and dad a four year engineering degree

who knows

more than a few guys want a woman who is going to earn as much or more than they do

 

[Oftencold]

I suspect that they do, but not for any nefarious reason.

Young women wanting most to get married and raise kids, a very noble pursuit, tend to focus on issues of the Hearth.

Women seeking higher education obviously are driven by other motivations, exclusively or in tandem with a diluted yearning for a traditional familial role.

No one can have It all.

Obviously, lots of women get the degree and the husband, but their odds as a demographic group are lowered.

 

[Fisher]

Just depends. How big are their boobs?

 

[captainawesome]

No degreed women do not have a harder time. Many marriages began as relationships in college.

 

[DaveFagan]

Just depends. How big are their boobs?

I'm an ass man and it can compensate for a Ph.d even. A fat girl with degrees better have lots of batteries. Cellulite and degrees don't work for me either.

 

[Fisher]

I'm an ass man and it can compensate for a Ph.d even. A fat girl with degrees better have lots of batteries. Cellulite and degrees don't work for me either.

I am convinced that at least a third (and by a third In mean 80%) of the women I encountered in grad school were there to husband shop.

 

[captainawesome]

I am convinced that at least a third (and by a third In mean 80%) of the women I encountered in grad school were there to husband shop.

Why would that be?

 

[Fisher]

Why would that be?

Because some were already married and some were lesbians so it would have been otherwise closer to 100% :tomato:

IDK. It is just something you pick up. In grad school you hear the business of people you barely know or don't even know on a daily basis. It was generally accepted that certain girls who were there were more interested in finding a hubby than in their studies. Nothing wrong with it. Just an observation, just like more people apply to law school when there is a war or a recession than during good economic times. Grad school is often a refuge.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

Of course - he brought up HUSBAND not CHILDREN. He's not talking about having a family persay - just getting married.

I suspect that they do, but not for any nefarious reason.

Young women wanting most to get married and raise kids, a very noble pursuit, tend to focus on issues of the Hearth.

Why do you say that? issues of the hearth? You mean the only way to raise kids is get married to your highschool sweetheart, cook good food, and get knocked up before 25? LOL What - only business minded women attend college?

Did you know that women graduate at a higher rate than men from colleges?

Women seeking higher education obviously are driven by other motivations, exclusively or in tandem with a diluted yearning for a traditional familial role.

Would you say the same for guys who attend rather than get married young and have children - that they have a diluted yearning for a traditional familial role? To me it's untrue as a blanket statement - that's entirely dependent on the individual in question. Some do - some don't. My parents both were moderately educated before they married and had children. They didn't want to raise children while struggling too much in the beginning of their marriage - they wanted to make sure they could handle us, financially, first.

No one can have It all.

True - thus - what you do have in life, you better be able to support yourself and your kids you have in the future.

Obviously, lots of women get the degree and the husband, but their odds as a demographic group are lowered.

Highly doubtful - women AND men are marrying AFTER the college years these days (it's been this way for a while) - the number of those married and parenting while young (late teens / early 20's) is steadily declining. Statistics reflect that those who get pregnant/have kids while in this younger age bracket constitute the majority of single, uneducated or partially educated, mothers.

If you want to care for your children - even if you're a happily married couple - you see to your education so you can get a decent job. It's much harder doing it the other way around: children first - career later.

I know quite a few uneducated single people - but all of the educated women I know are married . . . and most have kids. What is a truth, though - is that it is much harder to secure a good education AFTER you have kids . . . never mind the concern of finding a husband - that's not complicated for those reasons.

Why people would think that it would be a problem, I just have no clue.

 

[captainawesome]

Because some were already married and some were lesbians so it would have been otherwise closer to 100% :tomato:

IDK. It is just something you pick up. In grad school you hear the business of people you barely know or don't even know on a daily basis. It was generally accepted that certain girls who were there were more interested in finding a hubby than in their studies. Nothing wrong with it. Just an observation, just like more people apply to law school when there is a war or a recession than during good economic times. Grad school is often a refuge.

Grad school is very expensive and requires dedication. Undergrad sure some people are there to find mates. Grad school is where actual professionals go. I find it unlikely 80% of females were there to land a man.

It is a sexist comment.

 

[Fisher]

Grad school is very expensive and requires dedication. Undergrad sure some people are there to find mates. Grad school is where actual professionals go. I find it unlikely 80% of females were there to land a man.

It is a sexist comment.

It doesn't really require that much dedication over undergrad--just more classes. I really don't care if you think it is sexist or not. Some women in grad school were very thirsty and jockeying about the guys they thought would land the better jobs. The non-traditional women were the ones who worked their butts off.

 

[captainawesome]

It doesn't really require that much dedication over undergrad--just more classes. I really don't care if you think it is sexist or not. Some women in grad school were very thirsty and jockeying about the guys they thought would land the better jobs. The non-traditional women were the ones who worked their butts off.

It isn't that I think it is sexist. It is that it is sexist.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

It doesn't really require that much dedication over undergrad--just more classes. I really don't care if you think it is sexist or not. Some women in grad school were very thirsty and jockeying about the guys they thought would land the better jobs. The non-traditional women were the ones who worked their butts off.

Some men do the same thing - it's what the term 'trophy wife' stems from: seeking out a partner for what they might do for you per their career or *other* assets (looks, wealth, etc).

Lesson in life: some people are just sleazy - men and women . . . don't pretend as if only some women did it. Trust me - some guys do it, too.

Militayr men are often hounded by women who are seeking association via marriage/relationship - they're hated by us military wives and we call them tag chasers

 

[Fisher]

Some men do the same thing - it's what the term 'trophy wife' stems from: seeking out a partner for what they might do for you per their career or *other* assets (looks, wealth, etc).

Lesson in life: some people are just sleazy - men and women . . . don't pretend as if only some women did it. Trust me - some guys do it, too.

Militayr men are often hounded by women who are seeking association via marriage/relationship - they're hated by us military wives and we call them tag chasers

True, but the OP doesn't ask about men. It asks about women.

 

[Fisher]

It isn't that I think it is sexist. It is that it is sexist.

It is also reality. Here is a clue: Things like stereotypes are often grounded in truth.

 

[captainawesome]

It is also reality. Here is a clue: Things like stereotypes are often grounded in truth.

It isn't reality. That is why it is sexist.

Lies often contain bits of truth.

 

[Fisher]

It isn't reality. That is why it is sexist.

Lies often contain bits of truth.

What is your basis to say it is a lie if you were not in my grad schools with me? You are stereotyping women too there, Ace.

 

[captainawesome]

What is your basis to say it is a lie if you were not in my grad schools with me? You are stereotyping women too there, Ace.

Grad students take the GRE and spend the hundred grand for a career. Saying females don't care to be professionals, and only looking for a sugar daddy is sexist.

 

[Fisher]

Grad students take the GRE and spend the hundred grand for a career. Saying females don't care to be professionals, and only looking for a sugar daddy is sexist.

Ohio is the only state that shares no letters with Mackerel; Utah is the only state that shares no letters with Lewinsky; and Some grad students take tests other than the GRE--any more false assumptions of yours you want me to clarify?

 

[Oftencold]

Of course - he brought up HUSBAND not CHILDREN. He's not talking about having a family persay - just getting married.



Why do you say that? issues of the hearth? You mean the only way to raise kids is get married to your highschool sweetheart, cook good food, and get knocked up before 25? LOL What - only business minded women attend college?

Did you know that women graduate at a higher rate than men from colleges?



Would you say the same for guys who attend rather than get married young and have children - that they have a diluted yearning for a traditional familial role? To me it's untrue as a blanket statement - that's entirely dependent on the individual in question. Some do - some don't. My parents both were moderately educated before they married and had children. They didn't want to raise children while struggling too much in the beginning of their marriage - they wanted to make sure they could handle us, financially, first.


True - thus - what you do have in life, you better be able to support yourself and your kids you have in the future.



Highly doubtful - women AND men are marrying AFTER the college years these days (it's been this way for a while) - the number of those married and parenting while young (late teens / early 20's) is steadily declining. Statistics reflect that those who get pregnant/have kids while in this younger age bracket constitute the majority of single, uneducated or partially educated, mothers.

If you want to care for your children - even if you're a happily married couple - you see to your education so you can get a decent job. It's much harder doing it the other way around: children first - career later.

I know quite a few uneducated single people - but all of the educated women I know are married . . . and most have kids. What is a truth, though - is that it is much harder to secure a good education AFTER you have kids . . . never mind the concern of finding a husband - that's not complicated for those reasons.

Why people would think that it would be a problem, I just have no clue.

My goodness, you certainly like to read a lot of things in simple sentences that their author never intended.

Calm yourself! When you've done so, I'll walk you through this.

My point is quite simple, and obvious to the casual observer.

Otherwise attractive women whose main goal is to be traditional housewives have a rather easy time getting a husband. They're willing, and make it known that they're available and comport themselves with that goal in mind.

Professional women in general who wish the same must divide their efforts to a far greter extent while in college or building a career.

As all but the dullest preschool children can grasp, limited efforts and finite time lead to diminished results.

The question was not about whether professional women were less desirable, were less likely to end up in successful marriages if they did marry, or anything of the sort. The question was whether they had a harder time finding a husband at all.

To use a simple metaphor, a person who fishes daily will be more likely to catch a fish than a person who fishes occasionally.

There now! You see how we can arrive at reasonable conclusions when we eschew hysterics?

 

[marywollstonecraft]

Just checking .... it is 2013, right?

a lot of the attitudes on this thread would be normal in 1973

.... have some of you guys been in a coma for the last forty years?

 

[captainawesome]

Ohio is the only state that shares no letters with Mackerel; Utah is the only state that shares no letters with Lewinsky; and Some grad students take tests other than the GRE--any more false assumptions of yours you want me to clarify?

No need to say anything else sexist.

 

[Oftencold]

Just checking .... it is 2013, right?

a lot of the attitudes on this thread would be normal in 1973

.... have some of you guys been in a coma for the last forty years?

People don't really change very much as a whole. Silly ideas come and go, that people of the same gender can really be married for instance, but sooner or later, Reality and Human Nature reassert themselves, without mercy.

 

[captainawesome]

People don't really change very much as a whole. Silly ideas come and go, that people of the same gender can really be married for instance, but sooner or later, Reality and Human Nature reassert themselves, without mercy.

Reality is women are and want to be professionals and 80% are not in grad school looking for a sugar daddy.