DNC panel pushes to scrap David Hogg's vice chair election (3 Viewers)

[j brown's body]

They lost for a lot reasons and one of the big ones is they allowed the party to be pulled into crazy town by nutbag progressives on social issues. The message to the party was/is clear - they need to move back to the center on social issues instead of doubling down on crazy. And that means getting rid of the progressive mole who is trying to undermine that shift.

Most people support the policies that the Dems support such as DEI, abortion, raising the minimum wage, they even support a path to legality for undocumented immigrants. But the Dems have done a terrible job explaining why they support them, this not giving voters a good reason to vote for them. They are constantly playing defense and that's a losing position. The kicker, of course, is the trans issue. The Dems are foolish not to acknowledge that both sides have powerful argument but its something the federal government should stay out of, it has more urgent matters to attend to - leave to the local authorities, perhaps on a case-by-case basis. After all, it wasn't that long ago that much of the country was outraged over the NC bathroom bill.

Conversely, look at the Republicans. Trump ran on basically repudiating Project 2025 because most polls showed voters opposed it, and now that he's won, its all we get. Maybe the Dems should try lying more.

 

[Perotista]

Completely ignoring the fact that Democrats lost in November because the Leftwing of the party either stayed home or protest voted Green.

True as for the presidential election. Democrats dropped from making up 37% of those who voted in 2020 down to 31% for 2024. As to the reason, I’m still researching. The republican turnout made up 35% of those who actually voted in both 2020 and 2024. Voter turnout was down across the board in 2024. From 63% and 159 million voters in 2020 down to 59% and 156 million in 2024 even though there was 7 million more eligible voters available to vote in 2024 than 2020.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/exit-polls/national-results/general/president/0

But what I’m talking about is the midterms, November of 2026. Concentrating on swing districts, competitive districts where both major parties are relatively even in their party’s strength. Where how the non-affiliated, less to non-partisan independents vote will probably be decisive. There’s 40 such districts as of today, 22 currently held by democrats, 18 by republicans. The other 395 districts are pretty much safe for whichever party currently holds them. As for the senate, each party has two seats in the at risk of switching column. The GOP, Maine which is certain to go democratic and North Carolina while the democrats have Georgia and Michigan.

As for the far left not voting in 2024, they did vote for democratic senators in Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, Arizona, democrats won all 4 of those senate races. All states won by Trump which means a lot of those folks voted for Trump then voted democratic in the senate races. Maybe Harris was deemed too far left in those 4 states or not far enough left? But why if it’s the latter, would these folks vote for Trump along with voting democratic for the senate? Interesting also is for the first time since 1988, Trump won the working class, the blue-collar vote along with first time voters. Heck, Trump came within 5 points of winning the union household vote.

 

[bomberfox]

They'd better quickly figure out if they're going to go all-in on being a far left party or ditch the progressives and be moderate. They can't have it both ways and still stand a chance to win.

Moderates dont fix things on a systemic level. If they actually did, i wouldnt go so hard on them.

 

[TamleeB]

Holy Mother of God. Has that shit changed since Biden too????

Unable to answer a very direct question I see. In fact several very direct questions.

 

[bomberfox]

Social grievance is all progressives have. If they were “overwhelmingly popular” then they could stand on their own two feet instead of latching on to the DNC teat for dear life. Of course, we know they aren’t and we all saw what happened when they tried to do that in 2020 - total chaos. They didn’t get anything done at their convention because they spent the entire time fighting each other over triggers and “personal points of privilege.”

The center was where the party was in the late 90s and early 2000s. Back when even the progressive god Bernie Sanders believed in the right of States and the people to make decisions on social issues. Before identity politics became the only banner they had to fly and they let nutbag progressives turn the party and its platform into a freak show that alienated the average American. When the party had a plan and a backbone and didn’t have knee jerk reactions to every Twitter persona with an opinion.

States shouldnt have rights to treat others as second class.

 

[Gatsby]

Long story short, the DNC Credentials Committee found that Hogg’s election to vice chair violated the party’s gender equity rules. His ouster is imminent.

DNC panel pushes to scrap David Hogg's vice chair election

David Hogg has been at the center of an intraparty battle within the Democratic National Committee.

www.cbsnews.com

That would be hilarious if the way to finally get rid of this grifter is to out-woke him.

 

[bomberfox]

The problem with moderates is they are not capable of dealing with the slightest bit of discomfort even if slight discomfort might bring better results in the long run. They also abhor anything that might be slightly unpopular and instead of standing up for people there isnt a single person they wont throw under the bus. They cant stand things they dont understand and support policies that wreck america and the globe.

Ive been an activist for almost 10 years now, if you arent upsetting the current structure, you arent an activist. Since moderates want to throw intersectionality out the window, im not sure how they plan on connecting working class struggles with something like civil rights, something that intersectionality addresses *shrug*

 

[TamleeB]

Most people support the policies that the Dems support such as DEI, abortion, raising the minimum wage, they even support a path to legality for undocumented immigrants. But the Dems have done a terrible job explaining why they support them, this not giving voters a good reason to vote for them. They are constantly playing defense and that's a losing position. The kicker, of course, is the trans issue. The Dems are foolish not to acknowledge that both sides have powerful argument but its something the federal government should stay out of, it has more urgent matters to attend to - leave to the local authorities, perhaps on a case-by-case basis. After all, it wasn't that long ago that much of the country was outraged over the NC bathroom bill.

Conversely, look at the Republicans. Trump ran on basically repudiating Project 2025 because most polls showed voters opposed it, and now that he's won, its all we get. Maybe the Dems should try lying more.

I don’t believe “most” people support DEI. Trump ran on getting our borders under control (promises made, promises kept).

 

[Ganondagan]

Trump has already mentioned he was seriously thinking of running again in 2028 and no one from his camp has come out and specifically said "President Trump cannot run again in 2028, its against the Constitution."

Believe me, it ain't going to happen.

 

[tharock220]

Gotta give the kid credit. He's turned the Parkland shooting into money making career for himself.

 

[bomberfox]

and lastly caring about people with autism and letting autustic people speak for themselves is now not a winning issue since RFK jr is not going anywhere. Sometimes its not just ideology, real actual people are involved.

I wholly believe this generation of Americans would have gone against MLK.

 

[OpportunityCost]

MAGA thinking they know what's best for DNC is amusing at best.
Literally this "story" has the ripple effect of throwing a grain on sand in the ocean.

Not MAGA, the voters and the public.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/16/politics/cnn-poll-democrats/index.html

The Democratic Party’s favorability rating among Americans stands at a record low, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, fueled in part by dimming views from its own frustrated supporters.

 

[j brown's body]

I don’t believe “most” people support DEI. Trump ran on getting our borders under control (promises made, promises kept).

I am simply saying polls show this. Here is one.

Tariffs, DEI and cuts to government: Views of Trump's key actions

More Americans disapprove than approve of the Trump administration's government cuts, tariffs increases and ending of federal DEI policies.

www.pewresearch.org

Was a adopting Project 2025 a kept promise?

 

[Redress]

I think they would do best to stick by him. As he has made clear, he is only going after those in "safe" seats.
Trumpco does this all the ****ing time, it is funny to watch pretend republicans offering up opinions that this this idea is a bad thing.

The purpose of the DNC is to promote the party(same as with the RNC). Going after popular house and senate members is not good for the RNC or for democratic prospects in the next election.

 

[j brown's body]

Gotta give the kid credit. He's turned the Parkland shooting into money making career for himself.

And to think hs could otherwise be dead. Thus the risks our kids take going to school in America.

 

[Redress]

Man, the Democratic Party and the progressive left are in such shambles that they can't even decide what they want their platform to be.

What a disaster!

Not having one person tell everyone what to think is a strength of the Democratic Party and what separates us from republicans.

 

[Redress]

They lost for a lot reasons and one of the big ones is they allowed the party to be pulled into crazy town by nutbag progressives on social issues. The message to the party was/is clear - they need to move back to the center on social issues instead of doubling down on crazy. And that means getting rid of the progressive mole who is trying to undermine that shift.

Democrats by and large did not run on social issues.

 

[Lisa]

Yep, he’s guilty of being a white CIS male.

So is Bernie Sanders or Pete Buttegeig.

 

[TamleeB]

I am simply saying polls show this. Here is one.

Tariffs, DEI and cuts to government: Views of Trump's key actions

More Americans disapprove than approve of the Trump administration's government cuts, tariffs increases and ending of federal DEI policies.

www.pewresearch.org

Was an adopting Project 2025 a kept promise?

Trump never adopted Project 2025. But I do understand that you want to keep that rumor going.

 

[j brown's body]

Trump never adopted Project 2025. But I do understand that you want to keep that rumor going.

Hmmmm

Creator of the controversial Project 2025 to take over DOGE from Elon Musk

President Trump's top budget official, Russell Vought, has been tapped to take over the newly-formed Department of Government Efficiency, where the Project 2025 architect will continue slashing the federal government.

www.irishstar.com

How Trump's policies and Project 2025 proposals match up after first 100 days

As President Trump marks his first 100 days in the White House, many of the plans he has rolled out since the start of his second term closely align with those detailed in Project 2025's sprawling policy book.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Roadvirus]

Long story short, the DNC Credentials Committee found that Hogg’s election to vice chair violated the party’s gender equity rules. His ouster is imminent.

DNC panel pushes to scrap David Hogg's vice chair election

David Hogg has been at the center of an intraparty battle within the Democratic National Committee.

www.cbsnews.com

I can't imagine how he was put there in the first place.

He represented everything the Dems got wrong in the last election.

 

[Roadvirus]

Trump never adopted Project 2025. But I do understand that you want to keep that rumor going.

In public, no.
In private, he gave it the greenest of green lights.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Ironically, I understand that the RNC has the same DEI rule.

Citation required.

 

[bomberfox]

Social grievance is all progressives have. If they were “overwhelmingly popular” then they could stand on their own two feet instead of latching on to the DNC teat for dear life. Of course, we know they aren’t and we all saw what happened when they tried to do that in 2020 - total chaos. They didn’t get anything done at their convention because they spent the entire time fighting each other over triggers and “personal points of privilege.”

The center was where the party was in the late 90s and early 2000s. Back when even the progressive god Bernie Sanders believed in the right of States and the people to make decisions on social issues. Before identity politics became the only banner they had to fly and they let nutbag progressives turn the party and its platform into a freak show that alienated the average American. When the party had a plan and a backbone and didn’t have knee jerk reactions to every Twitter persona with an opinion.

Probably because your ideology was what got us to this point? You are lying when you say identity politics was the only issue.

Face it there is absolutely no going back to the 90s just like there is no going back to the 50s no matter how much we want to relive our youths.

The ideology of deregulation and “free trade” got my generation a one way ticked to the worst financial meltdown since the great depression when we entered the workforce. It ultimately seems to me like you folks are just as incapable of changing your minds as you accuse others of.

 

[bomberfox]

Democrats by and large did not run on social issues.

I mean its like Carville when he lies about the DNC running on latinx.