Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming soon!

[Henrin]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

Yes they do. It happens all the time its our best triumph. We told the south no more slaves, we told the people women can vote, we told people gays have rights. This people that didn't agree sat down and shut up. We forced beliefs on our nation. We do it every time we lick someone up.

You are absolutely dead wrong to think we can't force beliefs in people.

Should we though? Should we be using the public education system to shape the morality of children? Is that really that much different than shaping the political outlook of people? Isn't it actually the same thing? Think about it.

 

[Master PO]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

In schools, we absolutely should hold students to that. We should "force" them to accept that they cannot be bullys or harass other students just for things like race or religion or sexuality. If they do, they will face punishment.

if someone bullies another or hurts anyone, action must be taken, however i dont have to follow someone else thoughts on other people, its only when i step outside the law, and hurt someone, or infringe on their rights, when i face punishment.

this idea people should be molded from the polices of what the school wants to teach, ..no i am free to think as i will.

 

[Master PO]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

I have. but for the sake of it I will one more time.

There is no proof that it is abnormal yet it existes in every culture, every country, every time period. Now you need to prove that wrong, if you dint or can't it must be normal.

that not proof...

people have engaged in animal sex in every culture, does that make that normal....you tell me.

 

[winston53660]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

Should we though? Should we be using the public education system to shape the morality of children? Is that really that much different than shaping the political outlook of people? Isn't it actually the same thing? Think about it.

And with holding information about sexuality is not trying to shape the morality?

 

[CLAX1911]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

Should we though? Should we be using the public education system to shape the morality of children? Is that really that much different than shaping the political outlook of people? Isn't it actually the same thing? Think about it.

Yes, we have since schools started existing. Why change now all of the sudden?

 

[Master PO]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

And when parents don't do it, the state must step in and ensure that students are taught tolerance in order for them to be able to be in school or even later in life because otherwise they are harming others, which is not acceptable within an educational environment.

the state must step in............here we go!...here we go!

 

[roguenuke]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

if someone bullies another or hurts anyone, action must be taken, however i dont have to follow someone else thoughts on other people, its only when i step outside the law, and hurt someone, or infringe on their rights, when i face punishment.

this idea people should be molded from the polices of what the school wants to teach, ..no i am free to think as i will.

It is best to be proactive about bullying rather than reactive. We do much better teaching children tolerance and anti-bullying no matter their religious beliefs than ignoring it til a child starts bullying another. History easily shows us the truth of this.

 

[Master PO]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

Yes, we have since schools started existing. Why change now all of the sudden?

it you go back to early education in america and look at early text books, why do they teach the bible in them?

 

[Henrin]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

Yes, we have since schools started existing. Why change now all of the sudden?

So public schools should be centers where we teach children morality? So you think it's actually wise to have the state teaching future generations morality? You don't find anything off about that at all?

 

[Master PO]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

It is best to be proactive about bullying rather than reactive. We do much better teaching children tolerance and anti-bullying no matter their religious beliefs than ignoring it til a child starts bullying another. History easily shows us the truth of this.

sounds to me, as if your convicting someone before the crime is committed.

 

[CLAX1911]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

that not proof...

people have engaged in animal sex in every culture, does that make that normal....you tell me.

Now that is how you do it. I knew you would get it eventually.

Yes it would be normal to expect that, but it isn't acceptable but we don't teach that in school. Homosexuality is acceptable however because we don't lock people up for it we don't execute people for it there is no (reputable) therapy to undo it. So it is now very much part of or culture.

 

[Henrin]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

the state must step in............here we go!...here we go!

It's pretty much the same as the "private sector failed so lets give the job to the state" argument. Of course, that's hardly surprising since we are talking about public education.

 

[CLAX1911]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

So public schools should be centers where we teach children morality? So you think it's actually wise to have the state teaching future generations morality? You don't find anything off about that at all?

They did the same with you, me my parents my grand parents my grate grand parents. They have to. that is their purpose. Schools as far back as time goes have been doing so.

 

[Master PO]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

Now that is how you do it. I knew you would get it eventually.

Yes it would be normal to expect that, but it isn't acceptable but we don't teach that in school. Homosexuality is acceptable however because we don't lock people up for it we don't execute people for it there is no (reputable) therapy to undo it. So it is now very much part of or culture.

i am pointing out that becuase something in the past in done, that does not say its always normal, and if i offended to,..that was not my intention, and i am sorry just making a point.

 

[Henrin]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

They did the same with you, me my parents my grand parents my grate grand parents. They have to. that is their purpose. Schools as far back as time goes have been doing so.

That is hardly an answer. The question is not what they have been doing, but should they be doing it.

 

[Master PO]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

They did the same with you, me my parents my grand parents my grate grand parents. They have to. that is their purpose. Schools as far back as time goes have been doing so.

shall be pull out those old school text books on the 1830's and 40's an teach the bible again.

 

[Master PO]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

It is best to be proactive about bullying rather than reactive. We do much better teaching children tolerance and anti-bullying no matter their religious beliefs than ignoring it til a child starts bullying another. History easily shows us the truth of this.

no matter their religious beliefs ..how nice of you.

i dont recall the bible telling anyone to go out a bully anyone.

 

[CLAX1911]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

It's pretty much the same as the "private sector failed so lets give the job to the state" argument. Of course, that's hardly surprising since we are talking about public education.

Public school has been around for a very long time. Longer than the nation in fact the first school was opened in 1635 called the Boston Latin school.

 

[CLAX1911]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

shall be pull out those old school text books on the 1830's and 40's an teach the bible again.

No, that doesn't match the current culture. And those lessons are useless.

 

[winston53660]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

So public schools should be centers where we teach children morality? So you think it's actually wise to have the state teaching future generations morality? You don't find anything off about that at all?

The schools job is to disseminate information as effectively as possible.

For example:

" Is homosexuality a disease like people thought in the 50's?"

No it is not nor anything to be ashamed of.

 

[CLAX1911]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

no matter their religious beliefs ..how nice of you.

i dont recall the bible telling anyone to go out a bully anyone.

What if its my belief that I can be a bully and my parents support it? The school stepping in and stating its wrong is the school forcing their beliefs on me.

Leave people alone.

 

[winston53660]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

no matter their religious beliefs ..how nice of you.

i dont recall the bible telling anyone to go out a bully anyone.

Are you kidding me?

Exodus 22:18: "Do not allow a sorceress to live."

 

[Master PO]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

What if its my belief that I can be a bully and my parents support it? The school steeping in and dating its wrong is the school giving their beliefs on me.

Leave people alone.

sorry but that would be a violation of the law, and the school would be the first line to stop such behavior, ......you can dislike like someone..thats legal, but you cant bother or threaten them.

people can have there own beliefs, but when they take them outside the law, thats where their behavior shall not be tolerated.

 

[Master PO]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

Are you kidding me?

Exodus 22:18: "Do not allow a sorceress to live."

this statement goes back to the effect, that she wants the state to step in and instruct people, in what the schools wants over someone religious beliefs.

 

[Linc]

Re: Discrimination is losing, Equality is winning, equal rights for gays is coming so

Red areas of this Nation are way ahead of you Ernst, across the Curriculum..Even T. Jefferson was removed by Texas History books..
California and Texas used to determine the future copyright dates, in tandom..Imagine a Sen. Paul Broun from GA, currently on the House Science committee denying science

shall be pull out those old school text books on the 1830's and 40's an teach the bible again.