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Disastrous plan to destroy the US election - mail out ballots to millions of ineligible voters

marke said:
The way to find out would be to do a thorough investigation into all the ballots which were counted and to cross reference those names against the names of voters in other states or precincts and to cross reference the names against INS citizenship records, death records and criminal records. It may come to that after the 2020 election, but the verification process will likely take months.
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Who will be president on January 21st, 2021 if it takes longer than that?
 
marke said:
I think at least once every 4 years. Certainly not never, like some democrat officials propose.
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What states don't regularly update voter registration rolls?
 
BlueTex said:
Who will be president on January 21st, 2021 if it takes longer than that?
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Trump will be because Americans will not allow democrats to take control by trickery.
 
marke said:
Are any ballots being sent out to ineligible voters in Washington State? Has Washington State verified that its voter registries have been updated and all names of voters no longer eligible to vote been removed?
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Yes, ballots are sent out to all ineligible voters in Washington State. Also, Washington State never verifies that its voter registries have been updated, and they keep all names of voters no longer eligible to vote.

Do you see a turnip truck nearby?
 
marke said:
The initial results of the 2004 Governors race in Washington State was overturned by a judge who, although admitting voter fraud was involved, declared the democrat the winner because republicans could not prove the crooked voters voted in the democrat's favor.

For blind democrat supporters, here is another case of clearly proven voter fraud.

The 2020 election will not be given to the democrat candidate by voter fraud and a crooked judge, however. Honest Americans will not stand for it.
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Reminds me of the hanging chads in Florida in 2000, and the Supreme Court’s intervention to install Bush as President.
 
marke said:
How can Americans trust the results of an election in which millions of ballots are mailed out to ineligible voters? Such confidence in the results cannot be restored in such a scenario.

It will take months, maybe more than a year to verify the results and then only if every ineligible ballot is removed from the counts. Such verification of ballot eligibility could take many months, plunging the nation into a state of confusion in which hordes of lawyers on both sides will fight over how to proceed while the election results remain unverified for so long a period of time. We may never be able to completely clean up the election results and then what?
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You don't know what happens if someone who is ineligible to vote sends in a ballot, do you?

:lol:

Man, it is sad, pitiable, and truly pathetic to see someone defeat their own OP's presence entirely within that OP without even realizing it. Watching someone else beat themselves at their own game....

...it's better than doing it to them yourself.
 
marke said:
What does Trump have to do with the problem of mailing out hundreds of thousands of ballots to ineligible voters?
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Here is why Trump is at fault.

Trump has been starting this campaign to undermine the elections because the polls are telling him he is going to lose. He can't deal with the notion that his presidency is about to be rejected, so he sets up the scenario that the elections are rigged rather than own his failures. He promotes this concept to give him cover for losing the election in November.

The political porn site where you got this ****-a-manie idea published some article to this effect designed to get your gander up; knowing full well how malleable and ill-formed its readers are. (We all noticed, by the way, that you did not provide a cite for this.... the one smart thing you did, because you know you would have been laughed off the stage) You, being played as the useful idiot here, bring this goofy idea to DP expressing your dismay and outrage because you believe it to be true (and, of course, you never thought verify this idea with a credible news source).... and, now all the sane and educated people here have to waste their time helping to correct your twisted thinking on this issue.

Yes, its indeed Trump's fault that his minions are so gullible. Then again, he needs them to be gullible so he can continue to use them for his purpose. He should show some more respect to members of his cult; after all, they love him, he should at least show a little respect back. On the other hand, do the exploiters ever respect their marks?
 
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marke said:
Any official who mails out ballots to ineligible voters.
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Which official? US Postal Service? Is there an American equivalent of Elections Canada or would it be a State government function?
I'm wondering who specifically would mail ballots to ineligible voters.
 
marke said:
If states cannot verify that no significant numbers of illegitimate votes were cast then the 2020 election will be thrown into turmoil.
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no, mail in voting is just fine everywhere it exists, try something else.
 
BlueTex said:
Name those states...
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I don't know about every state. All I can do is read what is reported, like this:

Are States Purging Or Cleaning Voter Registration Rolls? : NPR


Now, in Wisconsin, it's a whole different case. It's the state that wants to wait until after the 2020 elections to remove some 234,000 voters who appear to have moved. They want to wait because they've run into problems in the past using Division of Motor Vehicle change of address records to clean up their lists. But a conservative group filed lawsuits, saying that the state has to take these voters off the rolls now. And a judge has agreed, but that's being appealed.


Democrats and liberals are suing states which purge their voter rolls in accordance with elections laws. They give some excuses for resisting the law, but those excuses don't hold water. If a significant number of those 234,000 voters the state of Wisconsin is trying to purge are ineligible voters, and if those records are not purged of ineligible voters before election day, and if a significant number of those ineligible voters ends up voting we are going to have a real mess on our hands come Nov 5, 2020.
 
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MauiMan said:
Yes, ballots are sent out to all ineligible voters in Washington State. Also, Washington State never verifies that its voter registries have been updated, and they keep all names of voters no longer eligible to vote.

Do you see a turnip truck nearby?
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In WA state, an ineligible voter will not be taken off the roll only if the county elections supervisor goes to the trouble to keep lists up to date. If the country elections supervisor does not go to the trouble then ineligible voters remain on the list. If votes are somehow cast in the names of ineligible voters the election results are corrupted and we have a mess on our hands which could take months or even years to sort out in court.

SCOTUS may have to appoint an interim president until the mess is sorted out in court, however long that may take. May the courts with the most conservative judges win!
 
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MauiMan said:
Reminds me of the hanging chads in Florida in 2000, and the Supreme Court’s intervention to install Bush as President.
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Someone or something had to be done to stop the hanging chad nonsense. Thank God Bush prevailed.
 
Mr Person said:
You don't know what happens if someone who is ineligible to vote sends in a ballot, do you?

:lol:

Man, it is sad, pitiable, and truly pathetic to see someone defeat their own OP's presence entirely within that OP without even realizing it. Watching someone else beat themselves at their own game....

...it's better than doing it to them yourself.
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If that ineligible voter is on the current eligible voters list due to a failure to purge the books before the election, then that vote is fraudulent. Too many fraudulent votes in a state can completely invalidate elections results of the whole state.
 
upsideguy said:
Here is why Trump is at fault.

Trump has been starting this campaign to undermine the elections because the polls are telling him he is going to lose. He can't deal with the notion that his presidency is about to be rejected, so he sets up the scenario that the elections are rigged rather than own his failures. He promotes this concept to give him cover for losing the election in November.

The political porn site where you got this ****-a-manie idea published some article to this effect designed to get your gander up; knowing full well how malleable and ill-formed its readers are. (We all noticed, by the way, that you did not provide a cite for this.... the one smart thing you did, because you know you would have been laughed off the stage) You, being played as the useful idiot here, bring this goofy idea to DP expressing your dismay and outrage because you believe it to be true (and, of course, you never thought verify this idea with a credible news source).... and, now all the sane and educated people here have to waste their time helping to correct your twisted thinking on this issue.

Yes, its indeed Trump's fault that his minions are so gullible. Then again, he needs them to be gullible so he can continue to use them for his purpose. He should show some more respect to members of his cult; after all, they love him, he should at least show a little respect back. On the other hand, do the exploiters ever respect their marks?
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Your assessment of Trump, his motives, his thoughts, his goals and so forth have nothing to do with the fact that if ineligible voters are allowed to vote in the election then the election results cannot be validated, casting the whole country into turmoil.
 
Grand Mal said:
Which official? US Postal Service? Is there an American equivalent of Elections Canada or would it be a State government function?
I'm wondering who specifically would mail ballots to ineligible voters.
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If states refuse to purge their voter rolls of ineligible voters and if those ineligible voters vote along with eligible voters, the whole election cannot be validated. Why would any elections officials not want to clean up their rolls before an election so ineligible voters cannot be given ballots?
 
Vadinho said:
no, mail in voting is just fine everywhere it exists, try something else.
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Mail-in voting should be fine as long as no ineligible voter receives a ballot by which to cast a vote. Too many states are refusing to clean up their voting rolls and the result is going to be a tainted election which cannot be trusted by anyone.
 
marke said:
I don't know about every state. All I can do is read what is reported, like this:

Are States Purging Or Cleaning Voter Registration Rolls? : NPR


Now, in Wisconsin, it's a whole different case. It's the state that wants to wait until after the 2020 elections to remove some 234,000 voters who appear to have moved. They want to wait because they've run into problems in the past using Division of Motor Vehicle change of address records to clean up their lists. But a conservative group filed lawsuits, saying that the state has to take these voters off the rolls now. And a judge has agreed, but that's being appealed.
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The article you posted about Wisconsin is from December of last year. It's curious you didn't look to see what has happened in the case since. Tell us, what exactly do you think the Wisconsin case is about from a legal perspective?

Oh, and the Wisconsin supreme court will hear the case next month...

Wisconsin Supreme Court Narrows Possibility Of Voter Roll Purge Before November | Wisconsin Public Radio

Democrats and liberals are suing states which purge their voter rolls in accordance with elections laws. They give some excuses for resisting the law, but those excuses don't hold water. If a significant number of those 234,000 voters the state of Wisconsin is trying to purge are ineligible voters, and if those records are not purged of ineligible voters before election day, and if a significant number of those ineligible voters ends up voting we are going to have a real mess on our hands come Nov 5, 2020.
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Name these states where "Democrats and liberals" are suing states that are purging their voter rolls in accordance with election laws.
 
marke said:
Mail-in voting should be fine as long as no ineligible voter receives a ballot by which to cast a vote. Too many states are refusing to clean up their voting rolls and the result is going to be a tainted election which cannot be trusted by anyone.
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Were the voting rolls cleaned up when Trump was elected in 2016? If not, how do we know he was legitimately elected? :2razz:
 
marke said:
How can Americans trust the results of an election in which millions of ballots are mailed out to ineligible voters? Such confidence in the results cannot be restored in such a scenario.

It will take months, maybe more than a year to verify the results and then only if every ineligible ballot is removed from the counts. Such verification of ballot eligibility could take many months, plunging the nation into a state of confusion in which hordes of lawyers on both sides will fight over how to proceed while the election results remain unverified for so long a period of time. We may never be able to completely clean up the election results and then what?
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Who is telling this lie about millions of ballots to ineligible voters having ballots mailed to them?
 
marke said:
If states refuse to purge their voter rolls of ineligible voters and if those ineligible voters vote along with eligible voters, the whole election cannot be validated. Why would any elections officials not want to clean up their rolls before an election so ineligible voters cannot be given ballots?
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I don't know. Sounds like a couple of big 'if's'. Why do you say they won't?
I'm guessing this is only a problem if the candidate you support loses- then there will have been election mismanagement and voter fraud. I'm guessingvTrump only makes this look like an issue when it looks like he might lose. That's what he did last time, remember? He said the election was rigged every time a poll showed Clinton ahead of him.
 
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