Did the NRA screw up with the background check vote?

[tererun]

the NRA maintains it's power through voting and spending on ads designed to strip votes from people. The reason why it has such pull is it does a good job in these areas and their support or opposition equates to actual votes in many elections so politicians have to listen. And politicians did listen and trashed the background check bill. Which this is a victory for the NRA in that the bill got trashed by a filibuster, but did it weaken them? In the fallout from the bill it would seem a number of senators lost approval ratings and a number of people have expressed that they will vote for someone else in the next election. Some of these senators have decided it would be best to turn their backs on the demands of the NRA because they want to be re-elected and it would seem the NRA cannot vote for the people who won't be voting for them.

Of course, this doesn't matter much in heavy red or blue areas as those areas go to whoever is the right color or letter. Now the NRA has to try and show the politicians in moderate areas that they can be a thorn in their side again. When you see public opinion polls drop like a rock because you sided with the NRA on their no tolerance for any gun regulation platform it actually damages the idea that their support is as important as the direct votes from your voters.

It looks like the NRA lost some of their power in this last fight. Maybe someone should sell them a gun?

 

[TurtleDude]

the NRA maintains it's power through voting and spending on ads designed to strip votes from people. The reason why it has such pull is it does a good job in these areas and their support or opposition equates to actual votes in many elections so politicians have to listen. And politicians did listen and trashed the background check bill. Which this is a victory for the NRA in that the bill got trashed by a filibuster, but did it weaken them? In the fallout from the bill it would seem a number of senators lost approval ratings and a number of people have expressed that they will vote for someone else in the next election. Some of these senators have decided it would be best to turn their backs on the demands of the NRA because they want to be re-elected and it would seem the NRA cannot vote for the people who won't be voting for them.

Of course, this doesn't matter much in heavy red or blue areas as those areas go to whoever is the right color or letter. Now the NRA has to try and show the politicians in moderate areas that they can be a thorn in their side again. When you see public opinion polls drop like a rock because you sided with the NRA on their no tolerance for any gun regulation platform it actually damages the idea that their support is as important as the direct votes from your voters.

It looks like the NRA lost some of their power in this last fight. Maybe someone should sell them a gun?

thanks for continuing to prove that you, like most other hard core gun haters, have hatred for lawful gun owners (NRA members) rather than criminals

 

[head of joaquin]

The NRA is washed up politically. It's membership is now almost exclusively the gunnut variety. Normal people have dropped their membership in droves (the NRA refuses to take people off their rolls even if they terminate their membership, so their 5M member claim is typical NRA hogwash).

In most big states, an NRA endorsement is toxic. In more and more states, they are simply irrelevant. Normal politicians don't want to be associated with an organization that clearly verges on insanity, if not terroristic.

 

[tererun]

The NRA is washed up politically. It's membership is now almost exclusively the gunnut variety. Normal people have dropped their membership in droves (the NRA refuses to take people off their rolls even if they terminate their membership, so their 5M member claim is typical NRA hogwash).

I have to wonder if they taught that trick to scientology, or if scientology taught that trick to the NRA.

In most big states, an NRA endorsement is toxic. In more and more states, they are simply irrelevant. Normal politicians don't want to be associated with an organization that clearly verges on insanity, if not terroristic.

I was actually surprised Arizona politicians took a hit from their NRA endorsements. Still, it doesn't bode well for the NRA when they start losing in surprising areas and politicians start falling out of their pockets. You have to expect some opposition from people like bloomberg, but when you have solid red republicans abandoning you that hurts. The NTA is a bully who works on fear, and that goes away when people stand up to you.

 

[TurtleDude]

The NRA is washed up politically. It's membership is now almost exclusively the gunnut variety. Normal people have dropped their membership in droves (the NRA refuses to take people off their rolls even if they terminate their membership, so their 5M member claim is typical NRA hogwash).

In most big states, an NRA endorsement is toxic. In more and more states, they are simply irrelevant. Normal politicians don't want to be associated with an organization that clearly verges on insanity, if not terroristic.

another contender for the idiotic anti gun hall of shame posts

 

[ecofarm]

The biggest supporters of the NRA are the anti-gun people.

 

[TurtleDude]

The biggest supporters of the NRA are the anti-gun people.

just as people like schumer and feintard sell more scary looking guns than all the people on Bushmaster, Colt, Rock River, Windham Weaponry, and DPMS's sales staff combined

hysterical ninnies who have let their emotions take over their once limited amount of rational thought sell more guns than this lady does

Taurus International Manufacturing Inc - News Details

 

[Dickieboy]

The NRA is washed up politically. It's membership is now almost exclusively the gunnut variety. Normal people have dropped their membership in droves (the NRA refuses to take people off their rolls even if they terminate their membership, so their 5M member claim is typical NRA hogwash).

In most big states, an NRA endorsement is toxic. In more and more states, they are simply irrelevant. Normal politicians don't want to be associated with an organization that clearly verges on insanity, if not terroristic.

Yep. The ole denigrate your opponent with baseless unsubstantiated innuendo...CLASSIC PROGRESSIVE TACTIC...Should we call this 'war on NRA'?...:lamo

 

[Linc]

Dirty money has always been the name of the USA game, and the NRA is no different, as with the dirty laundry in the last election thanks to the SCOTUS CORRUPTUS. Thankfully we now have the Giffords group going toe-to-toe with the gunmakers at the top of the NRA, NOT THE GUN-OWNERS at the bottom.

 

[Linc]

Yep. The ole denigrate your opponent with baseless unsubstantiated innuendo...CLASSIC PROGRESSIVE TACTIC...Should we call this 'war on NRA'?...:lamo

I would most certainly call it a "counteroffensive" against the NRA, and not a moment too soon.

 

[American]

The NRA is washed up politically. It's membership is now almost exclusively the gunnut variety. Normal people have dropped their membership in droves (the NRA refuses to take people off their rolls even if they terminate their membership, so their 5M member claim is typical NRA hogwash).

In most big states, an NRA endorsement is toxic. In more and more states, they are simply irrelevant. Normal politicians don't want to be associated with an organization that clearly verges on insanity, if not terroristic.

You don't have the tiniest clue about the NRA membership, so why don't you stop trying to be a pretender with expertise that you have time and time again shown you don't have. The only thing you're good at is throwing around terms like "meme" and "noise machine".

 

[American]

just as people like schumer and feintard sell more scary looking guns than all the people on Bushmaster, Colt, Rock River, Windham Weaponry, and DPMS's sales staff combined

hysterical ninnies who have let their emotions take over their once limited amount of rational thought sell more guns than this lady does

Taurus International Manufacturing Inc - News Details

I saw her on a show once demo several guns. She hot, and can shoot.

 

[American]

Yep. The ole denigrate your opponent with baseless unsubstantiated innuendo...CLASSIC PROGRESSIVE TACTIC...Should we call this 'war on NRA'?...:lamo

His argument have zero effect on anyone, because he's always wrong and posts the most hysterical rants. If he were to add an ounce of truth to his posts once in a while, what a monumental change that would be.

 

[TurtleDude]

I saw her on a show once demo several guns. She hot, and can shoot.

yep, she's very good. And she wins limited events with a Taurus which is impressive even if it has had a couple thousand bucks worth of modifications. Most of the top IPSC limited guys are shooting STI or CZs

 

[blackjack50]

This topic has gotten boring now. You anti-gun people failed. Game over man! GAME OVER!!

Of course you won't stop whining and blaming guns for events caused by humans. You certainly won't call for mental health care reforms. All you will do is keep on attacking the NRA, using victims to stick it to the republicans because you have no shame. Time marches on...the wheel keeps on rolling...it will all stay the same.

 

[ChezC3]

The NRA is washed up politically. It's membership is now almost exclusively the gunnut variety. Normal people have dropped their membership in droves (the NRA refuses to take people off their rolls even if they terminate their membership, so their 5M member claim is typical NRA hogwash).

In most big states, an NRA endorsement is toxic. In more and more states, they are simply irrelevant. Normal politicians don't want to be associated with an organization that clearly verges on insanity, if not terroristic.

Yes, yes, and the cow jumped over the moon...

 

[blaxshep]

This topic has gotten boring now. You anti-gun people failed. Game over man! GAME OVER!!

Of course you won't stop whining and blaming guns for events caused by humans. You certainly won't call for mental health care reforms. All you will do is keep on attacking the NRA, using victims to stick it to the republicans because you have no shame. Time marches on...the wheel keeps on rolling...it will all stay the same.

It is funny how the liberals have control of congress and the white house as well as a SC that finds everything they do constitutional, not to mention 90% of the people support their agenda yet somehow the NRA has more power then all of that.

 

[blackjack50]

It is funny how the liberals have control of congress and the white house as well as a SC that finds everything they do constitutional, not to mention 90% of the people support their agenda yet somehow the NRA has more power then all of that.

Yep. Shocking. And what is funny is that the entire mess will die down...until either someone important is killed...or some rich/white kids are killed. They can use them as victim cards.

 

[Dickieboy]

I would most certainly call it a "counteroffensive" against the NRA, and not a moment too soon.

I would too and quite frankly welcome it. I don't believe any of the current anti-/pro- issue should go without a 'counteroffensive'. It is often how things get solved.

 

[Linc]

I would most certainly call it a "counteroffensive" against the NRA, and not a moment too soon.

It is funny how the liberals have control of congress and the white house as well as a SC that finds everything they do constitutional, not to mention 90% of the people support their agenda yet somehow the NRA has more power then all of that.

Cons have control of the House and filibuster the Senate and hold a 5-4 edge in electing a POTUS. Other than that, libs hold all the cards.

 

[Goshin]

Lotta clueless wishful thinking going on.


Depending on which set of stats you believe, there's something like 80 million gun owners in America... and they're not going anywhere, and every day more and more of them are realizing we have to stand together to preserve our rights. Expect stiff resistance to most any new gun contro legislation; anything less is wishful thinking on the part of the Anti's.

 

[Amadeus]

Depending on which set of stats you believe, there's something like 80 million gun owners in America... and they're not going anywhere, and every day more and more of them are realizing we have to stand together to preserve our rights. Expect stiff resistance to most any new gun contro legislation; anything less is wishful thinking on the part of the Anti's.

If any regulations are passed, I'm not sure what could be done aside from breaking the law.

 

[Goshin]

If any regulations are passed, I'm not sure what could be done aside from breaking the law.

Laws that are passed, can be changed. This is not a pure democracy where the majority always rules; it was never intended to be, and I am glad that it isn't. The Founders intended there to be protections for minorities (in the political and social sense as well as ethnic) from being abused or having their rights curtailed by the majority.

Pure democracy was something the founders feared, with good reason. "Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner" is widely attributed to Ben Franklin, whether he was the first to say it or not...

There is no reason we should tolerate restrictions to the Second Amendment that we would not accept if applied to the 1st, 4th or 5th.

 

[Sensesfailed]

Never had been a fan of the NRA, they are there for the gun manufacturers and it's just something I can't get behind. The sad part is, some people on here like to generalize everyone that might actually might be in favor of certain gun laws when those people that are arguing for a few added laws that don't take guns away.. might be gun owners themselves. Just think about that.

 

[American]

Never had been a fan of the NRA, they are there for the gun manufacturers and it's just something I can't get behind. The sad part is, some people on here like to generalize everyone that might actually might be in favor of certain gun laws when those people that are arguing for a few added laws that don't take guns away.. might be gun owners themselves. Just think about that.

Then maybe you should stand up and do something about the big mouths on your side, they are mostly gun haters without a lick of common sense. Nothing they offer will reduce crime, and because it's plainly obvious that it won't, it appears to the rest of us that banning guns is their primary motivation.