Did Chris Christie gun down Romney? [W:106]

Of all the things Romney could have predicted and tried to deal with, Chris Christie - his convention keynote speaker - double-barreling Romney in the back with a raving praise of Obama with "The president is doing a great job!" and as a bipartisan leader in a crisis with Obama at his side just days before the election is not one of those.

From that moment, Romney's creeping up momentum came to a halt and reversed, with 79% of Americans polled agreeing the President is doing a great job. All Republican pollsters back peddling and Democratic pollsters declaring victory for Obama now all but certain.

Generally, a person is most vunerable to those closest to you. As the expression goes, with friends like that who needs enemies?

And thus went Christie potential future presidential run. Republicans will never forget this and many believe it deliberate to leave an open race for himself in 2016.

Did Chris Christie just blow Romney's last victory chance by - for how the media editted and ran it 10,000 times - personally endorsing Obama as a "great president? as the last key moment and final word of the campaign?"

joko104 said:

Of all the things Romney could have predicted and tried to deal with, Chris Christie - his convention keynote speaker - double-barreling Romney in the back with a raving praise of Obama with "The president is doing a great job!" and as a bipartisan leader in a crisis with Obama at his side just days before the election is not one of those.

From that moment, Romney's creeping up momentum came to a halt and reversed, with 79% of Americans polled agreeing the President is doing a great job. All Republican pollsters back peddling and Democratic pollsters declaring victory for Obama now all but certain.

Generally, a person is most vunerable to those closest to you. As the expression goes, with friends like that who needs enemies?

And thus went Christie potential future presidential run. Republicans will never forget this and many believe it deliberate to leave an open race for himself in 2016.

Did Chris Christie just blow Romney's last victory chance by - for how the media editted and ran it 10,000 times - personally endorsing Obama as a "great president?"

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So you wanted Chris Christie to be dishonest?

Christie is governor in a left-leaning state. He has to position himself as someone who can work with both sides and not a partisan.

Did he sell Mitt Romney down the river for his own political gain? Perhaps.

joko104 said:

Of all the things Romney could have predicted and tried to deal with, Chris Christie - his convention keynote speaker - double-barreling Romney in the back with a raving praise of Obama with "The president is doing a great job!" and as a bipartisan leader in a crisis with Obama at his side just days before the election is not one of those.

From that moment, Romney's creeping up momentum came to a halt and reversed, with 79% of Americans polled agreeing the President is doing a great job. All Republican pollsters back peddling and Democratic pollsters declaring victory for Obama now all but certain.

Generally, a person is most vunerable to those closest to you. As the expression goes, with friends like that who needs enemies?

And thus went Christie potential future presidential run. Republicans will never forget this and many believe it deliberate to leave an open race for himself in 2016.

Did Chris Christie just blow Romney's last victory chance by - for how the media editted and ran it 10,000 times - personally endorsing Obama as a "great president? as the last key moment and final word of the campaign?"

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Chris Christie did what he was supposed to do, and that was help his people. Partisanship has no place in crisis, and the only reason this is hurting the republicans is because of their extreme hatred of bi-partisanship.

Wiseone said:

So you wanted Chris Christie to be dishonest?

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seems that way

joko104 said:

Of all the things Romney could have predicted and tried to deal with, Chris Christie - his convention keynote speaker - double-barreling Romney in the back with a raving praise of Obama with "The president is doing a great job!" and as a bipartisan leader in a crisis with Obama at his side just days before the election is not one of those.

From that moment, Romney's creeping up momentum came to a halt and reversed, with 79% of Americans polled agreeing the President is doing a great job. All Republican pollsters back peddling and Democratic pollsters declaring victory for Obama now all but certain.

Generally, a person is most vunerable to those closest to you. As the expression goes, with friends like that who needs enemies?

And thus went Christie potential future presidential run. Republicans will never forget this and many believe it deliberate to leave an open race for himself in 2016.

Did Chris Christie just blow Romney's last victory chance by - for how the media editted and ran it 10,000 times - personally endorsing Obama as a "great president? as the last key moment and final word of the campaign?"

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Holy ****ing misplaced priorities...

Seriously, some things are more important than playing partisan politics.

Nope. His screw politics has been played well by the left, far more overstated than it was. You would think Christie endorsed Obama the way the left plays it. With PA a tie, I'd say that Christie has been irrelevant.

Redress said:

Holy ****ing misplaced priorities...

Seriously, some things are more important than playing partisan politics.

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I agree. Christie did what any governor, Republican or Democratic, should do in a time of emergency like this, regardless of whether or not the President is of the same party.

Wiseone said:

So you wanted Chris Christie to be dishonest?

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That's the question I have. His complaint makes sense only if Christie is lying for Obama, which is unlikely. More likely Christie was just honest.

As a factual matter, Romney's momentum was stopped about three weeks before Christie's statement. Obviously we can only speculate about what Christie was thinking. I don't know enough about him to form a reasonable opinion as to how much of it was sincere gratitude and how much political calculation. Some people are speculating that it may have been, in part, REVENGE for Romney picking Ryan instead of Christy for VP. Some claim that Romney didn't handle it very well, i.e., he supposedly didn't tell him for several days after the decision had been made and he didn't inform him personally.

Either way, I don't think it materially changes the outcome.

Fisher said:

Nope. His screw politics has been played well by the left, far more overstated than it was. You would think Christie endorsed Obama the way the left plays it.

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I agree with that too. Christie's praise of Obama has been somewhat overstated.

joko104 said:

Of all the things Romney could have predicted and tried to deal with, Chris Christie - his convention keynote speaker - double-barreling Romney in the back with a raving praise of Obama with "The president is doing a great job!" and as a bipartisan leader in a crisis with Obama at his side just days before the election is not one of those.

From that moment, Romney's creeping up momentum came to a halt and reversed, with 79% of Americans polled agreeing the President is doing a great job. All Republican pollsters back peddling and Democratic pollsters declaring victory for Obama now all but certain.

Generally, a person is most vunerable to those closest to you. As the expression goes, with friends like that who needs enemies?

And thus went Christie potential future presidential run. Republicans will never forget this and many believe it deliberate to leave an open race for himself in 2016.

Did Chris Christie just blow Romney's last victory chance by - for how the media editted and ran it 10,000 times - personally endorsing Obama as a "great president? as the last key moment and final word of the campaign?"

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how was it double barreling Mitt in the back?
Christie did nothing wrong at all, in fact he earned some respect and showed integrity among HONEST AND OBJECTIVE AMERICANS

Boo Radley said:

That's the question I have. His complaint makes sense only if Christie is lying for Obama, which is unlikely. More likely Christie was just honest.

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There's a third option: he could have just not expressed an opinion about Obama's performance.

AdamT said:

There's a third option: he could have just not expressed an opinion about Obama's performance.

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True. But, that too would have rasied questions. Remember, he was being asked these questions.

It's time to end this ****, right now.

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American said:

It's time to end this ****, right now.

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I don't think anyone thought he'd vote for Obama. The point is, he rightly noted Obama's competence. That's it. This made Fox lose their minds. Shocking.

American said:

It's time to end this ****, right now.

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this wont end anything because partisan, biased, dishonest, hacks will still think Christie was wrong for telling the truth.

Well of course it's apostasy in conservativeworld to suggest that the president is anything but the anti-Christ.

joko104 said:

Of all the things Romney could have predicted and tried to deal with, Chris Christie - his convention keynote speaker - double-barreling Romney in the back with a raving praise of Obama with "The president is doing a great job!" and as a bipartisan leader in a crisis with Obama at his side just days before the election is not one of those.

From that moment, Romney's creeping up momentum came to a halt and reversed, with 79% of Americans polled agreeing the President is doing a great job. All Republican pollsters back peddling and Democratic pollsters declaring victory for Obama now all but certain.

Generally, a person is most vunerable to those closest to you. As the expression goes, with friends like that who needs enemies?

And thus went Christie potential future presidential run. Republicans will never forget this and many believe it deliberate to leave an open race for himself in 2016.

Did Chris Christie just blow Romney's last victory chance by - for how the media editted and ran it 10,000 times - personally endorsing Obama as a "great president? as the last key moment and final word of the campaign?"

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To give credit to Christie, all of his criticisms on Obama's stances on such things as economic issues and foreign policy issues can be mutually exclusive to his praise on Obama's reaction to disaster relief.

Which actually does give Christie some credit when it comes to his criticisms of political figures and their stances.

Besides, all this really shows is how little difference Democrats and Republicans have on political issues. If any election has highlighted this, it's been this one.

Objective-J said:

this wont end anything because partisan, biased, dishonest, hacks will still think Christie was wrong for telling the truth.

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What Christie did is give the media a sound bite of him with President Obama saying "The President is going a great job!"

Yet as of that moment, the only "great thing" Obama had done was walk down the street with Christie. Oh how great! Obama can walk. And after getting that sound bite, Obama didn't even visit any other area, including New York, and flew off to Las Vegas.

There are only a few possibilities - all plausible:

1. Christie was just star struck by being in Obama's presence, like an infatuated teenager
2. That he feared Obama would block all aid, living the crisis all landing on Christie and maybe then costing Christie re-election
3. Christie wants to leave 2016 open for himself - with Romney going from 10 points behind when Christie endorsed him to in a deadheat.
4. Christie is just a big mouthed fool.

Romney diverted significant sums of $$ from his campaign towards aid. Did any - even ONE - Democratic endorsing Obama praise Romney? Or did they only used that too as an attack - that Romney was playing politics with a crisis? Of course that is what they would do - that's politics. Nothing wrong with that. Its called playing to win, rather than being an idiot. If you HIGH PROFILE ENDORSE SOMEONE, you do not in the last minute declare the other candidate is "doing a great job!"

For Christie to give the media the sound bite for them to play over and over and over and over - Christie being Romney's keynote speaker - "The President is going a great job!" was ignorant and naive at best. That was the premier sound bite then of every network, when polls shifted to a majority of voters saying Obama's doing a good job, and that was when Romney's campaign begin losing ground.

If Christie was being anything but a fool at best, as of the moment Christie said that raving praise, can anyone name anything Obama had actually done - other than walk down the street with Christie? Anything "great?"

Christie's either is an idiot or a double-crosser. No other way to read it.

joko104 said:

Of all the things Romney could have predicted and tried to deal with, Chris Christie - his convention keynote speaker - double-barreling Romney in the back with a raving praise of Obama with "The president is doing a great job!" and as a bipartisan leader in a crisis with Obama at his side just days before the election is not one of those.

From that moment, Romney's creeping up momentum came to a halt and reversed, with 79% of Americans polled agreeing the President is doing a great job. All Republican pollsters back peddling and Democratic pollsters declaring victory for Obama now all but certain.

Generally, a person is most vunerable to those closest to you. As the expression goes, with friends like that who needs enemies?

And thus went Christie potential future presidential run. Republicans will never forget this and many believe it deliberate to leave an open race for himself in 2016.

Did Chris Christie just blow Romney's last victory chance by - for how the media editted and ran it 10,000 times - personally endorsing Obama as a "great president? as the last key moment and final word of the campaign?"

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Obama should've just said, "If you want federal aid, endorse me."

Objective-J said:

this wont end anything because partisan, biased, dishonest, hacks will still think Christie was wrong for telling the truth.

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Christie was wrong.

It's election season, Christie needs to be a good soldier and find a reason to criticize Obama.

AdamT said:

Well of course it's apostasy in conservativeworld to suggest that the president is anything but the anti-Christ.

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I claim your message is false. I say that you can't quote anyone on legitimate within conservative Republicans who claims Obama is the "anti-Christ." Is it EVER possible for you to post anything that is actually accurate or truthful? Ever?

Anagram said:

I agree with that too. Christie's praise of Obama has been somewhat overstated.

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Does anyone actually think this will change things?

Bloomberg's endorsement will have absolutely zero impact. Christie's statement will have absolutely zero impact.

This has to be one of the most partisan threads I have ever seen in DP