Demographically qualifying a presidential candidate (1 Viewer)

[Rickeroo]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/11/politics/tulsi-gabbard-van-jones/index.html

"She is the first American Samoan and the first Hindu member of Congress."

I'm certainly glad CNN has pointed out the relevant demographic distinctions for Gabbard. This means she's capable of various American political concepts that other races/religions would not be. Apparently, there are ideas that only Samoans can come up with and for this reason her race qualifies her for office in some way.

What we're missing though is a chart that we can make voting decisions on. What type of American political ideas would come from an American Samoan versus a Japanese American? Complicating this would be her additional status as Hindu, which brings a whole different set of American political ideals that only Hindus are qualified to bring to the table.

 

[ecofarm]

The OP completely misses the point of recognizing social and minority progress. He tries to portray doing so as bigoted against white people. That's the perspective of white supremacists.

 

[NeverTrump]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/11/politics/tulsi-gabbard-van-jones/index.html

"She is the first American Samoan and the first Hindu member of Congress."

I'm certainly glad CNN has pointed out the relevant demographic distinctions for Gabbard. This means she's capable of various American political concepts that other races/religions would not be. Apparently, there are ideas that only Samoans can come up with and for this reason her race qualifies her for office in some way.

What we're missing though is a chart that we can make voting decisions on. What type of American political ideas would come from an American Samoan versus a Japanese American? Complicating this would be her additional status as Hindu, which brings a whole different set of American political ideals that only Hindus are qualified to bring to the table.

Because the pro-Assad, pro-Bannon, pro-putin, and stupid fighting with Mazie Hirono is a sure win for the Democrats but sure get hung up on her race, Rick... :roll:

 

[ttwtt78640]

Hmm... is a Hindu Samoan woman even more sage than a wise Latina? This identity politics seems to be getting ever more difficult to understand. Perhaps we need a chart showing which religious, racial, gender, gender preference and ethnic characteristics are pluses, neutral or minuses in the ability of a candidate to formulate and/or administer public policy.

 

[SDET]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/11/politics/tulsi-gabbard-van-jones/index.html

"She is the first American Samoan and the first Hindu member of Congress."

I'm certainly glad CNN has pointed out the relevant demographic distinctions for Gabbard. This means she's capable of various American political concepts that other races/religions would not be. Apparently, there are ideas that only Samoans can come up with and for this reason her race qualifies her for office in some way.

What we're missing though is a chart that we can make voting decisions on. What type of American political ideas would come from an American Samoan versus a Japanese American? Complicating this would be her additional status as Hindu, which brings a whole different set of American political ideals that only Hindus are qualified to bring to the table.

The USA is going the way of Bolivia. If you give something to one tribe, another tribe considers it as taking away from them. The result is a stingy mentality. The term for it is identity politics.

If you ask a typical person what Bolivia is known for, many will answer poverty.

 

[Kal'Stang]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/11/politics/tulsi-gabbard-van-jones/index.html

"She is the first American Samoan and the first Hindu member of Congress."

I'm certainly glad CNN has pointed out the relevant demographic distinctions for Gabbard. This means she's capable of various American political concepts that other races/religions would not be. Apparently, there are ideas that only Samoans can come up with and for this reason her race qualifies her for office in some way.

What we're missing though is a chart that we can make voting decisions on. What type of American political ideas would come from an American Samoan versus a Japanese American? Complicating this would be her additional status as Hindu, which brings a whole different set of American political ideals that only Hindus are qualified to bring to the table.

Don't care about her ethnicity. :shrug: I don't know much about her but what I do know I think I like. We'll see as time goes on. Of course the fact that she's not Warren or Harris is a plus. I just hope that Hillary decides to not run.

PS: Samoan is not a race.

 

[SDET]

Don't care about her ethnicity. :shrug: I don't know much about her but what I do know I think I like. We'll see as time goes on. Of course the fact that she's not Warren or Harris is a plus. I just hope that Hillary decides to not run.

Her voting record will tell you what you need to know about her.

Tulsi Gabbard on the Issues

 

[Kal'Stang]

Her voting record will tell you what you need to know about her.

Tulsi Gabbard on the Issues

Something that I will no doubt be looking through if she makes it past the primaries. I don't look at voting records until after the primaries as before then there's usually 20 some odd candidates and I'm not going to search up all of their voting records just to see them drop out or fail in the primary.

Don't care about her lean. :shrug:

 

[Rickeroo]

The OP completely misses the point of recognizing social and minority progress. He tries to portray doing so as bigoted against white people. That's the perspective of white supremacists.

The media pointing out minority demographics as "firsts", such as in this article, requires an assumption. That assumption is that whites (and not any other race) have already done it: Whites are already capable: Whites are already superior in their achievements. The minorities have to "catch up". In the media, the identity and accomplishments of minorities is significant only when compared to white people. White people get the esteem and the high expectations from everywhere - liberals, conservatives, whites and minorities alike.

If the media and leftists want to do something about white supremacy, they need to start lowering their expectations of white people and stop pointing out when minorities do what white people do. Stop making white people the standard that minorities need to aspire to.

This article is akin to saying, "Look, that wimpy high school kid finally threw a touchdown like Brady". Leftists look at this as a plus for the high school kid. I look at it as you just reinforced Brady's superiority.

 

[Rickeroo]

Don't care about her ethnicity. :shrug: I don't know much about her but what I do know I think I like. We'll see as time goes on. Of course the fact that she's not Warren or Harris is a plus. I just hope that Hillary decides to not run.

PS: Samoan is not a race.

Indeed, technically there are only 3 races. I use the term race often in place of ethnicity. Both are on equal footing as far as immutability and political impact, and I feel the term race carries more meaning to that end. Socially, Bruce Jenner can be a woman, but he can never, under any circumstances, be a Samoan.

 

[ecofarm]

The media pointing out minority demographics as "firsts", such as in this article, requires an assumption. That assumption is that whites (and not any other race) have already done it: Whites are already capable: Whites are already superior in their achievements. The minorities have to "catch up".

Like I said earlier, the white supremacist perspective.

 

[Helix]

The OP completely misses the point of recognizing social and minority progress. He tries to portray doing so as bigoted against white people. That's the perspective of white supremacists.

well, you have to take into account that old white males are horribly victimized or something. it's true. i heard it on the internet.

 

[ecofarm]

well, you have to take into account that old white males are horribly victimized or something. it's true. i heard it on the internet.

They're gonna sue.




haha

 

[Rickeroo]

Like I said earlier, the white supremacist perspective.

Take these leftist articles from CNN:

https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/07/health/schools-disparity-education-study/index.html

Study: Achievement gap narrows between black, white students - CNN.com

This direct comparison of how blacks aren't meeting the White Standard continues with other metrics such as income, again from a leftist source:

https://money.cnn.com/2016/06/27/news/economy/racial-wealth-gap-blacks-whites/index.html

The choice of race here is vital, since it's designed to maintain the politically lucrative concept that white people are to be blamed for the black underperformance detailed in these leftist articles.

Both leftists and white supremacists are constantly comparing white to black. It's as if they want the esteem of each race to be based on how the other race performs. If I feel better about myself knowing that Baltimore blacks are shooting each other (a white supremacist view), I'm basing my sense of self worth on the actions of another race - a pathetic point of view and detrimental to my personal success. What if blacks start to succeed? My sense of self worth goes down.

Likewise, if I take the liberal point of view and feel bad about my family's performance because Asians outperform whites, I'd be basing my sense of self worth on the actions of Asians: If Asians start underperforming, then my self esteem goes up. In the meantime I feel bad because Asians make more money than my race. Pretty stupid, right?

This is what the media is telling us to do when they do racial performance comparisons.

 

[slick]

Indeed, technically there are only 3 races. I use the term race often in place of ethnicity. Both are on equal footing as far as immutability and political impact, and I feel the term race carries more meaning to that end. Socially, Bruce Jenner can be a woman, but he can never, under any circumstances, be a Samoan.

I think there is a 4th very small one:

4 races that can be distinguished by DNA

Caucasoid (White) race.
Negroid (Black) race.
Mongoloid (Oriental/ Amerindian) race.
Australoid (Australian Aborigine and Papuan) race.

Most anthropologists recognize that there are four major race classifications in the world, which include caucasian,
mongoloid or asian, negroid or black and australoid. The race classification was created by Carleston S. Coon in 1962.
The four major races can then be further subdivided into 30 subgroups.

 

[slick]

The USA is going the way of Bolivia. If you give something to one tribe, another tribe considers it as taking away from them. The result is a stingy mentality. The term for it is identity politics.

If you ask a typical person what Bolivia is known for, many will answer poverty.

Going the way of the Balkans is more to my way of thinking. Bismarck dismissed the Balkans as the cradle of ethnic discontent & powder keg of Europe.
Bismarck 'The Balkans are not worth the bones of a single Pomeranian grenadier" As the USA becomes more Balkanized with each new segment of immigrants demanding their piece of the pie a Balkan type tragedy may be on the horizon.

 

[slick]

Don't care about her ethnicity. :shrug: I don't know much about her but what I do know I think I like. We'll see as time goes on. Of course the fact that she's not Warren or Harris is a plus. I just hope that Hillary decides to not run.

PS: Samoan is not a race.

I've never voted Democrat but I think she's terrific in some ways. She split with the Democratic National Committee to protest Wasserman-Schultz
bias for Mrs. Clinton. As a military officer she sized up the situation in Syria far better than most experts, championing the Kurds & siding with
Assad rather than the groups like Al-Nursa who our policy makers gave arms to & if she as one poster remarked is fighting against Mazie Hironoc
silliness that's another plus. Plus she rarely miss uses a word getting her points of view out there concisely & compared to almost all women politicians
nice to look at.

If Trump doesn't run in 2020 I could go with a democrat if it's her for the first time. I hope she gets traction I'd certainly prefer her to fellow
politician & Indian ethic Republican Nikki Haley.

https://www.betonline.ag/sportsbook/futures-and-props/politics-futures

For someone lesser known she's pretty high up there in the betting fase at this time;
2001 Donald Trump +175
2047 Beto ORourke +800
2003 Kamala Harris +800
2004 Joe Biden +1400
2002 Bernie Sanders +1600
2006 Elizabeth Warren +2000
2005 Mike Pence +2000
2025 Tulsi Gabbard +2200
2007 Cory Booker +2500
2055 Sherrod Brown +2500
2017 Amy Klobuchar +3300
2050 John Hickenlooper +3300
2008 Kirsten Gillibrand +3300
2009 Michael Bloomberg +3300

All those 33 to 1 or better

Notable alsorans:
2011 Nikki Haley +5000
2013 Andrew Cuomo +6600
2024 John Kasich +6600
2016 Paul Ryan +6600
2023 Hillary Clinton +8000
2015 Julian Castro +10000

 

[Nickyjo]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/11/politics/tulsi-gabbard-van-jones/index.html

"She is the first American Samoan and the first Hindu member of Congress."

I'm certainly glad CNN has pointed out the relevant demographic distinctions for Gabbard. This means she's capable of various American political concepts that other races/religions would not be. Apparently, there are ideas that only Samoans can come up with and for this reason her race qualifies her for office in some way.

What we're missing though is a chart that we can make voting decisions on. What type of American political ideas would come from an American Samoan versus a Japanese American? Complicating this would be her additional status as Hindu, which brings a whole different set of American political ideals that only Hindus are qualified to bring to the table.

Oh, give it a rest. It’s newsworthy, just like having the first Kenyan-born former community organizer for president. And yes, our backgrounds may affect how we look at things once in office. If you have been a business man who has had no supervision in your life, known for stiffing suppliers and playing fast and loose with the facts, that might affect the kind of president you would become.

 

[ecofarm]

The race classification was created by Carleston S. Coon in 1962.

What backwoods redneck hillbilly horse****.

1962

Nearly 60 years ago. Before computers. Before DNA. That's his reference.

Case closed.

 

[TheParser]

As the USA becomes more Balkanized with each new segment of immigrants demanding their piece of the pie a Balkan type tragedy may be on the horizon.

BINGO

But it's not "may be." It's "will be."


Possibly by 2100 or sooner.


We have discovered the hard way that the United States of America is not exceptional.

 

[slick]

BINGO

But it's not "may be." It's "will be."


Possibly by 2100 or sooner.


We have discovered the hard way that the United States of America is not exceptional.

Someone would have to be blind not to see it coming. Historians will mark the era from 1965-2015 as the 'stupid era'
How could those of that era believe the magnificent country they inherited could possibly be enriched by bringing in millions
from failed countries of the third world!

 

[Oozlefinch]

Her voting record will tell you what you need to know about her.

I for one largely dismiss all of those "Political Compass" charts. I have tried a great many of them over the years, and have come to realize that most of them are absolute crap, largely written on the bias of the people who created the test.

I just took 5 of them this morning out of curiosity, and they have ranked me anywhere from being a far right Libertarian, to being a moderate (my own view of my stance), and even a hard-core Republican who believes in the use of force to achieve what I want. 1 Even placed me as a "Socialist Democrat". Only 1 of them actually put me in the center.

Interestingly, that chart appears to be based on the ontheissues.org charting. But I could not take it myself, as they have taken their test down.