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As republicans shutdown the government and dash to their limousines and golf courses to..."fight-the-good-fight"...democrats are giddy with this political gift.
No matter what statistics we see ...know this ....more Americans favor the democrats than this far-far-right wing lunatic fringe. Why republicans won in 2010 isn't because they grew their base ....it was because democrats stayed home ..plain and simple. And even where republicans won back then ...they often loss the popular vote but won because of rigged political map.
And we can verify this when we saw Obama won handily ...twice ...winning the popular vote and the election.
So democrats welcome this shutdown as a means to invigorate their base for 2014. And what will Republicans gain?
Dudes ....if you get madder at Obama ...you're vote will still only count as ..ONE VOTE!! :lamo
And you're never going to draw democrats or independents into your madness...again forget the polls ....let me repeat ..OBAMA HANDILY BEAT YOU GUYS.....TWICE!!
And the joke is ....Obama care still stand under a shutdown and your quest to punish the poor will be mixed as some programs will not be affected.
Democrats feared they wouldn't get another Sarah Palin to use as a symbol to bring out their supporters .....but with luck the Obama deranged right wing ...ensured that void is being filled.
As republicans shutdown the government and dash to their limousines and golf courses to..."fight-the-good-fight"...democrats are giddy with this political gift.
No matter what statistics we see ...know this ....more Americans favor the democrats than this far-far-right wing lunatic fringe. Why republicans won in 2010 isn't because they grew their base ....it was because democrats stayed home ..plain and simple. And even where republicans won back then ...they often loss the popular vote but won because of rigged political map.
And we can verify this when we saw Obama won handily ...twice ...winning the popular vote and the election.
So democrats welcome this shutdown as a means to invigorate their base for 2014. And what will Republicans gain?
Dudes ....if you get madder at Obama ...you're vote will still only count as ..ONE VOTE!! :lamo
And you're never going to draw democrats or independents into your madness...again forget the polls ....let me repeat ..OBAMA HANDILY BEAT YOU GUYS.....TWICE!!
And the joke is ....Obama care still stand under a shutdown and your quest to punish the poor will be mixed as some programs will not be affected.
Democrats feared they wouldn't get another Sarah Palin to use as a symbol to bring out their supporters .....but with luck the Obama deranged right wing ...ensured that void is being filled.
As republicans shutdown the government and dash to their limousines and golf courses to..."fight-the-good-fight"...democrats are giddy with this political gift.
No matter what statistics we see ...know this ....more Americans favor the democrats than this far-far-right wing lunatic fringe. Why republicans won in 2010 isn't because they grew their base ....it was because democrats stayed home ..plain and simple. And even where republicans won back then ...they often loss the popular vote but won because of rigged political map.
And we can verify this when we saw Obama won handily ...twice ...winning the popular vote and the election.
So democrats welcome this shutdown as a means to invigorate their base for 2014. And what will Republicans gain?
Dudes ....if you get madder at Obama ...you're vote will still only count as ..ONE VOTE!! :lamo
And you're never going to draw democrats or independents into your madness...again forget the polls ....let me repeat ..OBAMA HANDILY BEAT YOU GUYS.....TWICE!!
And the joke is ....Obama care still stand under a shutdown and your quest to punish the poor will be mixed as some programs will not be affected.
Democrats feared they wouldn't get another Sarah Palin to use as a symbol to bring out their supporters .....but with luck the Obama deranged right wing ...ensured that void is being filled.
As republicans shutdown the government and dash to their limousines and golf courses to..."fight-the-good-fight"...democrats are giddy with this political gift.
No matter what statistics we see ...know this ....more Americans favor the democrats than this far-far-right wing lunatic fringe. Why republicans won in 2010 isn't because they grew their base ....it was because democrats stayed home ..plain and simple. And even where republicans won back then ...they often loss the popular vote but won because of rigged political map.
And we can verify this when we saw Obama won handily ...twice ...winning the popular vote and the election.
So democrats welcome this shutdown as a means to invigorate their base for 2014. And what will Republicans gain?
Dudes ....if you get madder at Obama ...you're vote will still only count as ..ONE VOTE!! :lamo
And you're never going to draw democrats or independents into your madness...again forget the polls ....let me repeat ..OBAMA HANDILY BEAT YOU GUYS.....TWICE!!
And the joke is ....Obama care still stand under a shutdown and your quest to punish the poor will be mixed as some programs will not be affected.
Democrats feared they wouldn't get another Sarah Palin to use as a symbol to bring out their supporters .....but with luck the Obama deranged right wing ...ensured that void is being filled.
No matter what statistics we see ...know this ....more Americans favor the democrats than this far-far-right wing lunatic fringe. Why republicans won in 2010 isn't because they grew their base ....it was because democrats stayed home ..plain and simple. And even where republicans won back then ...they often loss the popular vote but won because of rigged political map.
And we can verify this when we saw Obama won handily ...twice ...winning the popular vote and the election.
And you're never going to draw democrats or independents into your madness...again forget the polls ....let me repeat ..OBAMA HANDILY BEAT YOU GUYS.....TWICE!!
Conservatives have a death wish; and with the shutdown they're about to get it.
wow you are both fairly delusional and ignorant of history.
first historic trends always fvor two terms of one party,then the other.
second the republicans tried the shutdown in the 90's,and won,and not only won their budget cuts which clinton got credit for,they gained even more support not less.
third id have to find the exact poll i believe its pew poll but not sure,it shown that roughly 2/3rds of americans favored a govt shutdown,and it seemed their reasoning was they believed govt spending was out of control,and that a shutdown would force both sides to negotiate.
I don't understand this. Where did Democrats win the popular vote in 2010 but Republican's won due to rigged maps?
I wouldn't really say a 4 point win is handily. If the election were held today, Republicans would probably win anyway.
Again, I wouldn't really say handily but that's beside the point. Forgetting polls is falling into the same trap many Republicans did last year. This post is really devoid of an argument, just saying forget statistics, Democrats are gonna win.
I don't understand this. Where did Democrats win the popular vote in 2010 but Republican's won due to rigged maps?
I wouldn't really say a 4 point win is handily. If the election were held today, Republicans would probably win anyway.
Again, I wouldn't really say handily but that's beside the point. Forgetting polls is falling into the same trap many Republicans did last year. This post is really devoid of an argument, just saying forget statistics, Democrats are gonna win.
he is reffering to gerrymandering and democrat loss.
he fails to realize that winning the popular vote doesnt matter in house or senate races when tabulated across the nation,rather only where they are running.so lets say out of five races,3 came to about 48 52 and republicans won those,and the last two were won by democrats but the ratio was 85 15,right there an overwhelming victory in those districts throws off nationwide popular vote among senators nd congressmen,but doesnt count in any way.by attemoting to count popular vote nationwide in congressional elections,thaat person would belive california should have a say in texas votes,or texas should have influence over new yorks elections etc.simply nothing more than childish games played by those who refuse to aknowledge or observe anything in any rational matter.
on gerrymandering,once again that too is childplay.most districts were setup long ago to favor the democratic party,by dividing cities to cover as many rural districts as any city could,effectively drowning out rural vote by dividing it,forcing rural areas to be represented by city populations.this naturally favored democrats,which explains their super long run in the house,so basically democrats are pissed that they rigged the rules in their favor,and someone else unrigged them then rerigged them in their own favor.if democrats had cared about gerrymandering,they would have pushed for a bipartisan group to divide districts,but rather they simply want back old districts rigged in their favor for decades.
Thinkforyoursel's argument was horrible and ridiculous, but I think you're a bit off here.
Historic trends don't really favor the two terms of one than the other. Aside from Clinton-Bush-Obama that's never really happened. Two term presidents have been followed by members of the other party roughly half the time since Lincoln.
Second although Republicans definitely did get some of their demands in the nineties, the elections following the shutdowns in 1996 and 1998 were pretty much a wash. Clinton won big in the Presidential, Republicans won in the Senate in 96, the two parties tied in the Senate in 98, and Democrats made incremental gains in the House both times.
I'd also like to see that poll. Not really doubting you, but I haven't seen that one.
As republicans shutdown the government and dash to their limousines and golf courses to..."fight-the-good-fight"...democrats are giddy with this political gift.
No matter what statistics we see ...know this ....more Americans favor the democrats than this far-far-right wing lunatic fringe. Why republicans won in 2010 isn't because they grew their base ....it was because democrats stayed home ..plain and simple. And even where republicans won back then ...they often loss the popular vote but won because of rigged political map.
And we can verify this when we saw Obama won handily ...twice ...winning the popular vote and the election.
So democrats welcome this shutdown as a means to invigorate their base for 2014. And what will Republicans gain?
Dudes ....if you get madder at Obama ...you're vote will still only count as ..ONE VOTE!! :lamo
And you're never going to draw democrats or independents into your madness...again forget the polls ....let me repeat ..OBAMA HANDILY BEAT YOU GUYS.....TWICE!!
And the joke is ....Obama care still stand under a shutdown and your quest to punish the poor will be mixed as some programs will not be affected.
Democrats feared they wouldn't get another Sarah Palin to use as a symbol to bring out their supporters .....but with luck the Obama deranged right wing ...ensured that void is being filled.
im reffering to since kennedy ers,the trend has been fairly consistent excluding two presidents,carter who was horribly unpopular,and bush senior who rode off of reagans popularity.excluding those two examples america has suffered amnesia every 8 years.
That's true. More recently it has been the case. But with a sample size of 6 I'd say its far from predictive for future presidential elections.
most notably its been a trend since term limits were enacted,so i think its fairly predictive.
fyi i just tried searching for the poll,all i got were hundreds of thousands of pages on polls over obamacare and who america blames
You people seem to want to hide from this simple ..."fact" ....the Americans people knew about Obama-care in 2012 .....AND THEY STILL RE-ELECTED OBAMA!!
News flash....News Flash ....Obama care have been around for a while now guys.
Democrats won ....simply because ...there are more main stream and left leaning Americans...than there are on the right.
Let me give you a clue ....you people are ...MINORITIES!! :3oops:
And your vote will still be only ...one vote ...even if your hate for Obama doubles!!
You people seem to want to hide from this simple ..."fact" ....the Americans people knew about Obama-care in 2012 .....AND THEY STILL RE-ELECTED OBAMA!!
News flash....News Flash ....Obama care have been around for a while now guys.
Democrats won ....simply because ...there are more main stream and left leaning Americans...than there are on the right.
Let me give you a clue ....you people are ...MINORITIES!! :3oops:
And your vote will still be only ...one vote ...even if your hate for Obama doubles!!
That's ok I'll look for it later.
I don't think the elections are predictive though. Obama and Nixon won because of the unpopularity of wars. Carter won because of Nixons scandal. 2000 was for all intents and purposes a tie and really can't be used either way as evidence. I think other factors are much bigger indicators than how long one party has been in the White House.
other factors do play in,but i think its largely the country gets fed up with one poarty and votes the other,then 8 yesars later vote again the party they replaced,forgetting how bad they got screwed.
even today i hear liberals talk about how much better things were under bush,despite the fact they hated him,im sure after the 2020 election and the republican second term america will say hey remember how much better things were under obama.
oh on the poll just consider it null and void till i can find it,its how there somewhere,its just drowned in a sea of googles usual bs.
You people seem to want to hide from this simple ..."fact" ....the Americans people knew about Obama-care in 2012 .....AND THEY STILL RE-ELECTED OBAMA!!
News flash....News Flash ....Obama care have been around for a while now guys.
Democrats won ....simply because ...there are more main stream and left leaning Americans...than there are on the right.
Let me give you a clue ....you people are ...MINORITIES!! :3oops:
And your vote will still be only ...one vote ...even if your hate for Obama doubles!!
You know ....I'm a football fan and ..last week end my football team lost.
I can stay here and talk about ...more yards...more first downs ...than the other team ...and blah-blah-blah!! But all that talking will never change that "L" to a "W".
No matter how many other fans of that team I get together with and lament about the game ....it will still be a "L" ...and not a "W".
That is how you people act and behave ....no matter how racist you become ...no matter how many sick jokes you make up....no matter how un-patriotic you want to get ....OBAMA STILL WON TWICE!!!
And Obama won because ....MORE PEOPLE IN AMERICAN VOTED FOR HIM!!
Did you vote against him ....."YES".....THEN YOU'RE A F'CKING MINORITY!!
Listen ....you people expose an ideology that would get Ronald Reagan kicked out on his behind if he were alive today trying to be the GOP leader......AND AMERICANS WANT NO PART OF YOUR LUNACY!!
You retards are ...F'CKING MINORITIES!!
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