Democrats Already Going Negative on Christie Because They Are Afraid

[Jack Hays]

first off that's hysterical. Is Townhall a news outlet? Let me quote the first sentence for you Jack.

“Top Democratic officials launched a concerted offensive Wednesday to define New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie in a negative light”

Mmmm, your first quote was a question. Does a question put Christie in a negative light? The only thing you even quantify as negative is the ‘vaudeville’ line. Do you see a concerted effort to link him to vaudeville? Your second quote said he was the strongest republican candidate. Wow, that’s really putting him in a negative light by silly con standards. And the second part I agree with. He seems like a moderate when compared to the tea party but he’s not. That’s putting the tea party in a negative light.

Now Jack, I know its pointless to try to get you to admit that your silly editorial in no way backed up its assertion but the only concerted effort you’ll see attacking christie is the concerted republican effort. I heard Christie was born in Kenya and his BC is fake.

Not sure where "Townhall" comes from. It's a Washington Post news story.:roll:

 

[humbolt]

Well since you did it to Hillary, I expect you'll be OK with it. You're not one of those Lefty hypocrites are you?

Honestly, I don't mind all that much in this particular case. Christie is a fat man. I just find it kind of odd that such a thing is the focus immediately following his resounding victory. Hillary is pretty heavy herself. So I guess I'm in good company, from your perspective.

 

[Jack Hays]

Honestly, I don't mind all that much in this particular case. Christie is a fat man. I just find it kind of odd that such a thing is the focus immediately following his resounding victory. Hillary is pretty heavy herself. So I guess I'm in good company, from your perspective.

Since 69.2% of Americans aged 20 or older are overweight or obese, I doubt that weight will be a productive line of attack for either party. Just sayin' . . .eace

[h=3]FASTSTATS - Overweight Prevalence[/h]www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/overwt.htm‎
Percent of adults age 20 years and over who are obese: 35.9% (2009-2010) ... Percent of adolescents age 12-19 years who are obese: 18.4% (2009-2010) ...‎Prevalence of Obesity - ‎Products - Health E Stats - ‎Health Risk Factors

 

[humbolt]

Since 69.2% of Americans aged 20 or older are overweight or obese, I doubt that weight will be a productive line of attack for either party. Just sayin' . . .eace

[h=3]FASTSTATS - Overweight Prevalence[/h]www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/overwt.htm‎
Percent of adults age 20 years and over who are obese: 35.9% (2009-2010) ... Percent of adolescents age 12-19 years who are obese: 18.4% (2009-2010) ...‎Prevalence of Obesity - ‎Products - Health E Stats - ‎Health Risk Factors

That's pretty good. A weight lobby. That's what we need. When they weigh in, people pay attention.

 

[Vern]

The really interesting thing is that the Dems plan to portray him as a hard-edged conservative, just because he calls 'em as he sees 'em! I can't imagine anyone going that far......can you believe it? :mrgreen:

So the guy who couldn't figure out the gist of the "elephant in the room" headline is now telling us what dems plan to do. mmmmm, have you seen what cons are already doing?

anyhoo, remember a recent republican candidate who did things to win a blue state and then had to back track on everything he supported as governor to run for president. The good news is that Christie wont have as much to back track from to appease the teabaggers. But back track he will and his constant flip flopping will turn off the independents.

 

[Jack Hays]

That's pretty good. A weight lobby. That's what we need. When they weigh in, people pay attention.

This story is in a completely different context but it's one of my favorites and it sort of works.

In the late stage of the Russian Empire in the early 20th century, when modest democratization proposals were being debated, the Procurator of the Holy Synod, Konstantin Pobedynostsev, said: "Votes should not be merely counted, they should be weighed."eace

 

[humbolt]

This story is in a completely different context but it's one of my favorites and it sort of works.

In the late stage of the Russian Empire in the early 20th century, when modest democratization proposals were being debated, the Procurator of the Holy Synod, Konstantin Pobedynostsev, said: "Votes should not be merely counted, they should be weighed."eace

Love that. I do think Christie's weight will be an issue, and I'm a little miffed that Time chose to point it out right out of the box in such a graphic and pointed manner. It's not exactly a dispositive issue. Wasn't Taft a fat guy too?

 

[Vern]

What I see is you being willfully blind to anything but what you see in the mirror.

oh boy, you zinged me good. I wont be able to post for weeks. Anyhoo, I see, your radio masters have told you it was about Christie's weight so you hear and obey. Lets try something different. I'll ask you a series of yes no questions.

Is the mascot of the republican party an elephant?
Is "elephant in the room" an idiom concerning a glaring problem or issue people try to ignore?
Is Christie somewhat of an outcast in the republican party (or at least to the teabaggers)?
did Christie just win a landslide in a blue state?

Did you answer "yes" to all those questions? if you did but still believe what your radio masters instructed you to believe then I cant help you. Hey, remember when your radio masters told you President Obama was born in Kenya and his BC was fake? and there is the problem. As long as you don't hold your radio masters accountable for lying and pandering to you, they're not going to stop.

 

[humbolt]

oh boy, you zinged me good. I wont be able to post for weeks. Anyhoo, I see, your radio masters have told you it was about Christie's weight so you hear and obey. Lets try something different. I'll ask you a series of yes no questions.

Is the mascot of the republican party an elephant?
Is "elephant in the room" an idiom concerning a glaring problem or issue people try to ignore?
Is Christie somewhat of an outcast in the republican party (or at least to the teabaggers)?
did Christie just win a landslide in a blue state?

Did you answer "yes" to all those questions? if you did but still believe what your radio masters instructed you to believe then I cant help you. Hey, remember when your radio masters told you President Obama was born in Kenya and his BC was fake? and there is the problem. As long as you don't hold your radio masters accountable for lying and pandering to you, they're not going to stop.

Radio masters? Have you even looked at the Time cover? Would you endorse a silhouette of Obama characterized as the ass in the room? No?

 

[Jack Hays]

oh boy, you zinged me good. I wont be able to post for weeks. Anyhoo, I see, your radio masters have told you it was about Christie's weight so you hear and obey. Lets try something different. I'll ask you a series of yes no questions.

Is the mascot of the republican party an elephant?
Is "elephant in the room" an idiom concerning a glaring problem or issue people try to ignore?
Is Christie somewhat of an outcast in the republican party (or at least to the teabaggers)?
did Christie just win a landslide in a blue state?

Did you answer "yes" to all those questions? if you did but still believe what your radio masters instructed you to believe then I cant help you. Hey, remember when your radio masters told you President Obama was born in Kenya and his BC was fake? and there is the problem. As long as you don't hold your radio masters accountable for lying and pandering to you, they're not going to stop.

Please remain focused on the past and your assumptions.:lamo

 

[Vern]

Radio masters? Have you even looked at the Time cover? Would you endorse a silhouette of Obama characterized as the ass in the room? No?

again, as long as you don't hold your radio masters accountable for lying and pandering to you, they're not going to stop. Humor me humbolt, answer the simple questions

Is the mascot of the republican party an elephant?
Is "elephant in the room" an idiom concerning a glaring problem or issue people try to ignore?
Is Christie somewhat of an outcast in the republican party (or at least to the teabaggers)?
did Christie just win a landslide in a blue state?

 

[Cyrylek]

Christie would be a strong candidate if the Republicans were smart enough to nominate him.

Which they will almost certainly be "smart enough" to do.

Dems had fallen for the primitive "good cop - bad cop" routine.

 

[Vern]

Please remain focused on the past and your assumptions.:lamo

er uh jack, if they are only 'assumptions' on my part then you wont mind answering the questions.

Is the mascot of the republican party an elephant?
Is "elephant in the room" an idiom concerning a glaring problem or issue people try to ignore?
Is Christie somewhat of an outcast in the republican party (or at least to the teabaggers)?
did Christie just win a landslide in a blue state?

 

[Jack Hays]

er uh jack, if they 'assumptions' on my part then you wont mind answering the questions.

Is the mascot of the republican party an elephant?
Is "elephant in the room" an idiom concerning a glaring problem or issue people try to ignore?
Is Christie somewhat of an outcast in the republican party (or at least to the teabaggers)?
did Christie just win a landslide in a blue state?

Yes. Yes. No. Yes.eace

 

[humbolt]

again, as long as you don't hold your radio masters accountable for lying and pandering to you, they're not going to stop. Humor me humbolt, answer the simple questions

Is the mascot of the republican party an elephant?
Is "elephant in the room" an idiom concerning a glaring problem or issue people try to ignore?
Is Christie somewhat of an outcast in the republican party (or at least to the teabaggers)?
did Christie just win a landslide in a blue state?

I'm not in a humoring mood. I'm not a radio guy. I prefer music rather than the radio rants, and I'm fussy about the music, so I furnish my own preferences. I'm not really too concerned about 2016 yet, but it's pretty obvious that some are even at this early date. Obama still has three years, and as you know Vern, 3 years is an eternity in politics. Christie won by a goodly margin, but he did it against an arguably weak candidate, so let's not read too much into it yet. I think the point of the OP is that some do read a lot into it and are already reacting. The point of my previous post, however indelicately put, is that you would react to such a thing as I suggested in exactly the same way I did to the Time cover.

 

[shrubnose]

Gov. Chris Christie won reelection in a landslide Tuesday night. (Getty)

Democrats go negative on Christie

Philip Rucker 8:46 PM ET
Some strategists say the party made a mistake by not spending more to attack the New Jersey Republican during the campaign.

Top Democratic officials launched a concerted offensive on Wednesday to define New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie in a negative light, believing that he has emerged from his reelection landslide as the Republican Party’s strongest potential presidential contender for 2016. Some Democratic strategists said the party made a mistake by not spending more money to attack Christie during the gubernatorial campaign, which might have suppressed his margin of victory and denied the Republican a sweeping mandate in a blue state.

In the months to come, Democrats say they plan to chip away at Christie’s moderate image and present him nationally as a hard-edged conservative.eace

I doubt that the Tea Party will be much help with that plan, they'll be too busy trying to paint him as a RINO Liberal.

 

[Captain America]

It's way to early to declare but if the elections were held today, and it was Clinton vs. Christie, I would not only vote for Christie but I would also campaign for him in my community.

I don't want to throw mud at Hillary, or any other lady for that matter. But I just don't like her. Never have. But I do feel sympathy for her having such a pig husband. I respect her for sticking it out under the guise of loyalty and sacramental obligation. But I'm sure there was a profitable reason behind her decision beyond just moral obligation and uprightness.

Christie reminds me of Tommy Boy. You know, the character Chris Farley played in that 1995 movie. He was somewhat of a clumsy, supersized oaf, that had a good heart and was loved by all. Dumber than a box of rocks but he saves the family business and his brother's career.

Heartwarming and funny at the same time. Kinda like Winnie the Pooh. LOL!

 

[Kobie]

Why is it, when Democrats go negative, they're "afraid," but when Republicans go negative, they're just campaigning and, yanno, that's politics?

 

[Kobie]

I think Christie's weight is a problem, but to focus on it the day after he won is telling. I was pretty soundly bashed for drawing attention to Hillary's physical appearance, but in truth, this is exactly the type of thing the left revels in routinely. My point then, as it is now, is that the left loves to dish such crap out, but calls foul loudly when it's focused on one of theirs.

Oh what a crock of **** this is.

 

[Vern]

I'm not in a humoring mood. I'm not a radio guy. I prefer music rather than the radio rants, and I'm fussy about the music, so I furnish my own preferences. I'm not really too concerned about 2016 yet, but it's pretty obvious that some are even at this early date. Obama still has three years, and as you know Vern, 3 years is an eternity in politics. Christie won by a goodly margin, but he did it against an arguably weak candidate, so let's not read too much into it yet. I think the point of the OP is that some do read a lot into it and are already reacting. The point of my previous post, however indelicately put, is that you would react to such a thing as I suggested in exactly the same way I did to the Time cover.

uh humbolt, I didn't ask you for your life story. Fyi, its a debate forum, not facebook. I asked four simple straight forward questions concerning 'your' opinion that time magazine used the cover of their magazine to call Christie fat. and just like all cons, you have the courage to parrot and whine what your radio masters tell you but you run away when the narrative cant withstand any scrutiny. Once again cons prove their narratives are more important than the facts.

 

[Jack Hays]

Why is it, when Democrats go negative, they're "afraid," but when Republicans go negative, they're just campaigning and, yanno, that's politics?

Write your own OP titles any way you want.:lamo

 

[Kobie]

Write your own OP titles any way you want.:lamo

In other words, mere partisan nonsense. Roger that.

 

[humbolt]

Oh what a crock of **** this is.

I agree. The cover is a crock of ****. I believe you're in the publishing business or something like that, so I'm certain you're aware of the implications with such credentials.

 

[Jack Hays]

Oh what a crock of **** this is.

Dems went small and negative against Romney. There's no reason to think they won't go that way against Christie too. It's not like they can run on their record.eace

 

[Jack Hays]

In other words, mere partisan nonsense. Roger that.

No, it just seems to me that such early attacks signal fear.eace