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Democratic Sen. Alex Padilla is forcefully removed from Noem’s news conference and handcuffed

Pyrite said:
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"Disruptive provocation"? All you have to do is prove that the Senator's action justifies others' putting their hands on him, manhandling him, forcing him to the floor, and then handcuffing him.

And show that this is standard procedure meted out to others who "interrupt" speakers.
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Along Came Jones said:
All you need do is prove the FBI agents recognized him as Senator Padilla. Go ask them.
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Post #522


Whether or not the agents did or did not hear him identify himself isn't relevant. All you have to do is show that putting their hands on him, manhandling him, forcing him to the floor is justified by someone's interrupting a speaker.

AND be sure to "show that this is standard procedure meted out to others who "interrupt" speakers.
 
Pyrite said:
Your opinion re what would be done - and what is appropriate to be done - in a Federal facility counts as much as mine.
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Incorrect. I merely stated the protocol in secure federal facilities. My position is basic reality, whereas yours is a fantasy based on your feelings.

Pyrite said:
Both of us are anonymous posters in cyberspace. Neither of us has the bona fides to be considered credible on the topic of security in Federal buildings.
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You have no idea what my bona fides are or are not. Many people, including myself, have worked in secure federal facilities before. It’s hardly uncommon. Don’t attempt to disingenuously tether me to your admitted position of ignorance.

In secure facilities, anyone without clearance is removed by force as a possible security threat. As a Senator, Padilla knows this. He violated it on purpose and knew it would cause a scene. It’s attention-whoring stupidity at its worst. He needs to grow up and act like a man instead of a junior high child. End of story.
 
Pyrite said:
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Whether or not the agents did or did not hear him identify himself isn't relevant. All you have to do is show that putting their hands on him, manhandling him, forcing him to the floor is justified by someone's interrupting a speaker.

AND be sure to "show that this is standard procedure meted out to others who "interrupt" speakers.
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You're kidding me, right? They heard him. You could walk into the room, approach the speaker's podium and declare yourself "I'm Senator Padilla. I have a question." And then as you resist being pushed back, what do you think would happen?
 
Hello My Son said:
Incorrect. I merely stated the protocol in secure federal facilities. My position is basic reality, whereas yours is a fantasy based on your feelings.
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My feelings have not entered into this. I correctly pointed out that neither you nor I is a credible authority re "protocol in secure federal facilities".
Hello My Son said:
You have no idea what my bona fides are or are not. Many people, including myself, have worked in secure federal facilities before. It’s hardly uncommon. Don’t attempt to disingenuously tether me to your admitted position of ignorance.

In secure facilities, anyone without clearance is removed by force as a possible security threat. As a Senator, Padilla knows this. He violated it on purpose and knew it would cause a scene. It’s attention-whoring stupidity at its worst. He needs to grow up and act like a man instead of a junior high child. End of story.
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Post #528


Again, your word for this simply isn't good enough. You have not established your bona fides re why anyone should assume you know what you're talking about (and are presenting an accurate picture of) re what is "protocol in secure federal facilities".
 
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Along Came Jones said:
You're kidding me, right? They heard him. You could walk into the room, approach the speaker's podium and declare yourself "I'm Senator Padilla. I have a question." And then as you resist being pushed back, what do you think would happen?
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Oh, so now you admit the security detail put hands on him and pushed him back?

All you have to do is show that this is standard procedure - manhandling and handcuffing a person who asks a question of a speaker or otherwise interrupts a speaker - and has been standard procedure. I have no idea how you're going to do this, so.....good luck.
 
Pyrite said:
What "order"?

Remember, it was the trump-vance-miller people who decided to tackle a Senator to the ground and to handcuff him.

Any "disorder" is on them.
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Yes, and it was the Ice Maiden CoS Susie Wiles who first called Musk and ripped him a new one. Then she put Vance on to finish Elon off. While Noem is auditioning for VP Rottweiler, I prefer Youngkin for sanity until 2028.
 
Pyrite said:
Oh, so now you admit the security detail put hands on him and pushed him back?

All you have to do is show that this is standard procedure - manhandling a person who asks a question of a speaker or otherwise interrupts a speaker - and has been standard procedure. I have no idea how you're going to do this, so.....good luck.
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Get a grip. How could I admit to something I already claimed and provided two credible news sources describing the event? Didn't read the Time and New York Times stories, did you?

I don't have to show anything. How bout you prove the agents violated protocol and procedure? Try that.
 
Along Came Jones said:
Get a grip. How could I admit to something I already claimed and provided two credible news sources describing the event? Didn't read the Time and New York Times stories, did you?

I don't have to show anything. How bout you prove the agents violated protocol and procedure? Try that.
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Post #538


Ah, so you cannot prove that it's standard procedure for those who interrupt speakers at press conferences to be manhandled, to be tackled and forced to the floor, and to be handcuffed by security details.

I suspected as much.
 
Pyrite said:
My feelings have not entered into this. I correctly pointed out that neither you nor I is a credible authority re "protocol in secure federal facilities".
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Yes, your feelings are the only thing you’re relying on, because you certainly didn’t make any of your claims about me or security protocols in secure facilities based on any factual reality.

I know those protocols, whereas you clearly do not.

Pyrite said:
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Again, your word for this simply isn't good enough. You have not established your bona fides re your credibility in representing what is "protocol in secure federal facilities".
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The protocols are a matter of public record and easily available.

It’s not my problem that you chose not to review publicly available information before posting on the topic.

I don’t do your work for you.

I suggest that you should more adequately educate yourself before making uninformed posts in the future. Thank you and good luck.
 
uptower said:
Asking questions at a press conference?

Are you a fascist or something? Honest question at this point.
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They won’t answer honestly lol.
 
Pyrite said:
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Ah, so you cannot prove that it's standard procedure for those who interrupt speakers at press conferences to be manhandled, to be tackled and forced to the floor, and to be handcuffed by security details.

I suspected as much.
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Your demand is so ludicrous I didn't bother to try. Simple.

And yet, you ignore the equally ludicrous demand that you prove the agents violated protocol and procedure.

I suspected as much.
 
Hello My Son said:
Yes, your feelings are the only thing you’re relying on, because you certainly didn’t make any of your claims about me or security protocols in secure facilities based on any factual reality.
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Yeah, I have. You have not provided the bona fides that establish you as a credible source re what is protocol in secure Federal facilities.

I repeat: Your word that you are isn't sufficient.
Hello My Son said:
I know those protocols, whereas you clearly do not.
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I've not claimed to know the protocols in secure Federal facilities. You have, however, yet you lack credibility on this score.
Hello My Son said:
The protocols are a matter of public record and easily available.
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Then do the work of proving that it's protocol to manhandle, to tackle to the floor, and to handcuff those who interrupt speakers in federal facilities.

Copies and pastes of excerpts from credible sources to which you provide the links.
Hello My Son said:
It’s not my problem that you chose not to review publicly available information before posting on the topic.
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It's not my claim, so I don't do the work.
Hello My Son said:
I don’t do your work for you.
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Fine with me that you don't want to try to corroborate your claim that it's standard procedure for security details to manhandle, tackle to the floor, and handcuff those who interrupt speakers in secure Federal facilities.
Hello My Son said:
I suggest that you should more adequately educate yourself before making uninformed posts in the future. Thank you and good luck.
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Post #544

Denigrate my posts all you want. All I've done is point out your opinions on this matter are merely your opinions. That, so far, they don't represent facts.
 
Along Came Jones said:
Video footage released by Padilla’s office shows the Democratic Senator approaching the podium during Noem’s remarks: “I’m Senator Alex Padilla. I have questions for the Secretary,” he said before several men, including officers wearing FBI insignia, physically pushed him back. Moments later, Padilla was shoved to the floor face-down in a hallway outside the briefing room, handcuffed, and temporarily detained in an adjoining room.--Senator Slammed to the Ground and Handcuffed at Noem Event in L.A., Time, 6/12/2025

Disruptive provocation and just plain rude.
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The fascist state bares it's teeth.
 
Along Came Jones said:
Your demand is so ludicrous I didn't bother to try. Simple.

And yet, you ignore the equally ludicrous demand that you prove the agents violated protocol and procedure.

I suspected as much.
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Post #546


Fine by me that you have not been able to prove that it's standard procedure to manhandle, tackle to the floor, and handcuff people who interrupt speakers in Federal facilities.
 
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