Democratic Party's formal gun control platform

[vegas giants]

I could have thats true. But then again.. I would not have probably been able to develop the facilities that help rural folks like rural veterans etc.
I guess in your mind.. anyone that serves their community.. doesn;t matter..unless they joined the military.
You are welcome to feel that way. Please be sure to denigrate everyone in your community that did not go to war with you. The police officers, the doctors and nurses, the emt's and the firefighters. Please be sure to tell them that they are just using excuses.
Have a nice day vegas.

Yeah it is true. But you didnt. Thank god there are people who dont think like you and who answered the call. Dont put yourself in the same category as cops. At best you directed traffic. So dont ever get high minded with thinking you are ever in any way better.

Just say thank you.

 

[jaeger19]

Do you hunt with an ak47? If so do you need a clip with fifty rounds to kill a dear or a rabbit, a squirrel? Let's face it, no gun control laws are acceptable to most gun owners. How many of the mass shooters were law abiding citizens before their mass killings?

Actually lots of gun control laws are acceptable to most gun owners. I defy you to find a gun owner.. even an NRA member that says a violent felon should be able to go buy a glock.. or a six year old child go into walmart and buy a handgun etc.
The problem is.. most if not all of the gun control proposals that you anti gunners want.. will do nothing to curb crime... crap.. its proven in science that its not going to curb crime.
We even had an assault weapons ban and a high capacity magazine ban for 10 years. They studied its effect. In 10 years.. it had no statistical effect on crime.
None of your proposals even make any kind of sense.. much less common sense.

 

[jaeger19]

Yeah it is true. But you didnt. Thank god there are people who dont think like you and who answered the call. Dont put yourself in the same category as cops. At best you directed traffic. So dont ever get high minded with thinking you are ever in any way better.

Just say thank you.

Actually I was the police. Often (too often) I was the only officer on duty on that shift. Thats why our community needed reserve police officers. I went on domestic abuse calls alone. I have had knives pulled on me.. I have had a firearm pointed at me.. I have had to arrest and physically take down criminals that have committed assault, arson, rape, and attempted murder. Its just a fact. Having reserve officers was the not only good for the community.. it gave the paid police force backup on calls.
I did not answer the call for the military.. because I was not called. I was called to medicine and taking care of people in the community.. including our veterans and active military.
Look.. its fine if you want to think that the only way to serve your community is by being in the military. Please be sure to tell the doctors, nurses, emts, police, firefighters etc.. that they are slackers for not joining the military.
You seem to be the one that has an inferiority complex. I never said I was better. I just don;t think that the only way to serve your community is through military service is all.

 

[VanceMack]

You folks are ignoring my suggestions for ammunition for competitive shooting.

I dont know what your suggestion was, but I will tell you that I seldom buy ammo from online vendors...primarily because I have a pipeline that is local and constant. I have always said and taught my kids and anyoen I know a basic rule about ammunition. If you are going to go shooting and plan on shooting 4 boxes buy 8 and put the other 4 in your gun safe. DO that every time you go shooting and when we do have a period of shortage you will never be impacted. I will never be impacted.

but when you are discussing ammunition, who are you to tell me what is 'enough ammo'? Strictly from a 2nd Amendment perspective it is our obligation to keep enough ammo on hand to be ready to step into defend the country in the gravest extreme. Beyond that, if I want to stock 30,000 rounds, how is that any of your business? And why do you care where I get it from?

 

[vegas giants]

Actually I was the police. Often (too often) I was the only officer on duty on that shift. Thats why our community needed reserve police officers. I went on domestic abuse calls alone. I have had knives pulled on me.. I have had a firearm pointed at me.. I have had to arrest and physically take down criminals that have committed assault, arson, rape, and attempted murder. Its just a fact. Having reserve officers was the not only good for the community.. it gave the paid police force backup on calls.
I did not answer the call for the military.. because I was not called. I was called to medicine and taking care of people in the community.. including our veterans and active military.
Look.. its fine if you want to think that the only way to serve your community is by being in the military. Please be sure to tell the doctors, nurses, emts, police, firefighters etc.. that they are slackers for not joining the military.
You seem to be the one that has an inferiority complex. I never said I was better. I just don;t think that the only way to serve your community is through military service is all.

Ok hero. You are so full of it. I dont believe a thing you post. A grocery clerk serves their community

You could have served your country.


So dont ever get personal with me. You did less because you wanted to make a buck.

If you try to compare yourself to me again you will always come up short.

Every time

 

[jaeger19]

Ok hero. You are so full of it. I dont believe a thing you post. A grocery clerk serves their community

You could have served your country.


So dont ever get personal with me. You did less because you wanted to make a buck.

If you try to compare yourself to me again you will always come up short.

Every time

Sure.. whatever makes you feel better about yourself.. you self proclaimed "hero".

 

[vegas giants]

Sure.. whatever makes you feel better about yourself.. you self proclaimed "hero".

I went. You didnt. Bottom.line bud.

Never stack yourself up against me

 

[jaeger19]

I went. You didnt. Bottom.line bud.

Never stack yourself up against me

Sure.. Why would I ever want to compare myself to you? Why would I CARE?
Anyway.. have a nice day. "self proclaimed hero..".

 

[vegas giants]

Sure.. Why would I ever want to compare myself to you? Why would I CARE?
Anyway.. have a nice day. "self proclaimed hero..".

Now you are flat out lying. Show everyone where I said I was a hero.


You hear that sound.....it's the last tiny piece of your credibility leaving. Lol

 

[MaryP]

I dont know what your suggestion was, but I will tell you that I seldom buy ammo from online vendors...primarily because I have a pipeline that is local and constant. I have always said and taught my kids and anyoen I know a basic rule about ammunition. If you are going to go shooting and plan on shooting 4 boxes buy 8 and put the other 4 in your gun safe. DO that every time you go shooting and when we do have a period of shortage you will never be impacted. I will never be impacted.

but when you are discussing ammunition, who are you to tell me what is 'enough ammo'? Strictly from a 2nd Amendment perspective it is our obligation to keep enough ammo on hand to be ready to step into defend the country in the gravest extreme. Beyond that, if I want to stock 30,000 rounds, how is that any of your business? And why do you care where I get it from?

I already explained what my concerns were. Gun violence is everyone's business because no one is safe from being shot for no reason.

 

[TurtleDude]

I already explained what my concerns were. Gun violence is everyone's business because no one is safe from being shot for no reason.

What does that have to do with online ammo sales. If someone is a felon, they cannot legally possess ammo. If they buy it online it is easier to prosecute than if they walk into a gunshop or Walmart and buy a couple boxes of ammo. BTW criminals don't generally shoot all that many rounds

 

[CaughtInThe]

if i'm a gun manufacturer i want Democrats to win tons of elections since their sales go way up on fear.

as, of course, the 2nd never has a chance of being overturned.

 

[Glitch]

if i'm a gun manufacturer i want Democrats to win tons of elections since their sales go way up on fear.

as, of course, the 2nd never has a chance of being overturned.

Not without another revolution. That was how the first one began. The stupid British thought they could take away our firearms at Lexington and Concord. Now the Democratic Party is showing that very same stupid mentality the British demonstrated 245 years ago. So much for learning from history's mistakes.

 

[VanceMack]

I already explained what my concerns were. Gun violence is everyone's business because no one is safe from being shot for no reason.

SO that explains why you are targeting the people that kill 10,000 people a year in the inner city communities...right Because you care' about gun violence?

 

[TurtleDude]

if i'm a gun manufacturer i want Democrats to win tons of elections since their sales go way up on fear.

as, of course, the 2nd never has a chance of being overturned.

that works until there are bans on all sorts of firearms and punitive taxes are imposed on ammo

 

[CaughtInThe]

that works until there are bans on all sorts of firearms

no it doesn't. hell, they'd sell even MORE guns.

 

[TurtleDude]

no it doesn't. hell, they'd sell even MORE guns.

until the stuff they sell is banned in lots of blue states. And that is what you want.

 

[MaryP]

SO that explains why you are targeting the people that kill 10,000 people a year in the inner city communities...right Because you care' about gun violence?

I don't know what you mean.

 

[VanceMack]

I don't know what you mean.

I know you dont. Thats what makes this all the more tragic. Your efforts stop at efforts to impact law abiding citizens...not the criminals that are committing 10,000 murders a year. You dont give a shit about stopping gun violence or bloodshed. You just dont like guns and crusade against people that arent a threat because like the anti-gun politicians, you have neither the will nor desire to attack the real problems.

 

[vegas giants]

I know you dont. Thats what makes this all the more tragic. Your efforts stop at efforts to impact law abiding citizens...not the criminals that are committing 10,000 murders a year. You dont give a shit about stopping gun violence or bloodshed. You just dont like guns and crusade against people that arent a threat because like the anti-gun politicians, you have neither the will nor desire to attack the real problems.

You won't address the problem either. You want the status quo

 

[jaeger19]

Now you are flat out lying. Show everyone where I said I was a hero.


You hear that sound.....it's the last tiny piece of your credibility leaving. Lol

Ummm vegas... isn't this your post?

you could finish your residency and join as a doctor. We have been at war for 2 decades.

Lots of real American heroes did

Others stated at home and cashed in.

I thought you were one of those heroes Vegas. Aren't you claiming that you were one of those that joined the military.. thus making you a "real american hero"?

Or are you now claiming that you didn;t join the military and "answer the call" like a real american hero?

 

[vegas giants]

Ummm vegas... isn't this your post?



I thought you were one of those heroes Vegas. Aren't you claiming that you were one of those that joined the military.. thus making you a "real american hero"?

Or are you now claiming that you didn;t join the military and "answer the call" like a real american hero?

Lots of real American heroes did. Many other Americans did too. Most of the heroes ended up giving their life in service to their country.


You did not give up anything.


You were more interested in making bank.


Keep going

 

[jaeger19]

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I am trying to figure out what exactly you stand for. Yeah, I am being harassed if the law infringes on my second amendment rights. And I oppose police brutality. I actually prosecuted such brutality. BTW people are NOT being killed by the police at an alarming rate

Yes they are being killed by police at an alarming rate.
Seriously.. it didn;t alarm you to watch the Floyd video? That doesn; t alarm you that that police officer could kneel on floyds neck while he died..and do so in full view knowing he was being videoed? It doesn;t alarm you that the police feel SO CONFIDENT.. in their power.. that they feel they can kill a guy on camera who is passed the point of resisting?
It doesn't alarm you.. that THREE OTHER OFFICERS..who are sworn to uphold the law.. and serve and protect... stood by and watched it happen? Which means in their minds.. at some point they made a decision that the consequences of PREVENTING floyd from dying by stopping their fellow officer... were GREATER.. than the consequences of standing by and let a fellow officer kill a defenseless citizen.
It doesn't alarm you.. that an elderly protestor.. can be pushed down by police officers.. so hard that he cracks his head and ends up in the ICU. While officers walk by the man. And when the police administration merely QUESTIONS.. whether the police acted appropriately by knocking the elderly man down... a whole police unit decides to resign from that police unit in protest.. from merely having their actions that resulted in an elderly man in the ICU.. questioned? And when those officers were taken to a hearing on their actions... police officers.. lined up and APPLAUDED them?
That doesn't alarm you?

It doesn't alarm you that a concealed weapons holder. Can be stopped by the police on suspicion.. and then shot... while following the officers instructions... and the officer face no legal consequences for it?

It doesn't alarm you that a 19 year police veteran... stops a fellow officer from using a chokehold, and the 19 year veteran is fired for interfering when another officer is using excessive force? By the way.. the officer she stopped... but he kept his job? Got sentenced a year later for using excessive force again when he slammed a handcuffed teenagers head into a car...
But her firing still stands. Why doesn't that alarm you?

It doesn't alarm you.. that a group of officers.. can procure a "no knock warrant"...on virtually no evidence.. and break into an apartment.. and then surprise surprise.. they are seen as intruders and get fired upon.. and they end up killing the unarmed occupant? And face no legal repercussions?
Like we are to believe 1. They went to the trouble to obtain a no knock warrant.. but then now claim they knocked and announced themselves 2. They assume that knocking on the door anyway and or announcing they were police.. and then breaking it down AFTER MIDNIGHT... that people are going to respond with calm after being woken up by the sound of a door breaking?

And none of that alarms you.. as a supposed libertarian and supporter of freedom. What alarms you more.. is a restriction on ammo sales?

You need to reexamine your lean.

 

[jaeger19]

Lots of real American heroes did. Many other Americans did too. Most of the heroes ended up giving their life in service to their country.


You did not give up anything.


You were more interested in making bank.


Keep going

Well... like I said "self proclaimed hero"...you are perfectly welcome to believe what you want.
Have a nice day. Be sure to tell all the police and firefighters, nurses, and doctors.. and anyone else that didn;t join the military that they are all selfish. Please be sure to tell them that only the military make sacrifices and serve their country.

 

[vegas giants]

Well... like I said "self proclaimed hero"...you are perfectly welcome to believe what you want.
Have a nice day. Be sure to tell all the police and firefighters, nurses, and doctors.. and anyone else that didn;t join the military that they are all selfish. Please be sure to tell them that only the military make sacrifices and serve their country.

So was it cowardice that kept you out.

Shooting is fun...unless someone is shooting back.

Keep going. You want to make personal attacks on me I will never ever let anyone forget that you refused to serve your country while I did.