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Democrat Double Standards Strke Again!

Bassman

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Folks, with all of the catterwalling from the Left as to make the rich CEO's and coprerations pay their "fair share" (as if they don't already), how's about we go after the really obscenely rich instead. The entertainers and atheletes who make obscene amounts of money that make a CEO's annual salary look like pocket change. Hmmm, Lefties, how's about it??
 
Bassman said:
Folks, with all of the catterwalling from the Left as to make the rich CEO's and coprerations pay their "fair share" (as if they don't already), how's about we go after the really obscenely rich instead. The entertainers and atheletes who make obscene amounts of money that make a CEO's annual salary look like pocket change. Hmmm, Lefties, how's about it??
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When people take about taxing the wealthy I believe they would be included. What makes you think they are not?
 
katiegrrl0 said:
When people take about taxing the wealthy I believe they would be included. What makes you think they are not?
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Because I never hear a peep from the Libs about it. Perhaps it's because the producers and job creators tend to lean conservative, while the entertainers, for the most part are clueless Liberals.
 
Bassman said:
Because I never hear a peep from the Libs about it. Perhaps it's because the producers and job creators tend to lean conservative, while the entertainers, for the most part are clueless Liberals.
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Didn't you get the memo? Its the rich liberals that feel guilty about their wealth that are behind all the efforts to tax the rich into poverty.

You need to keep up.
 
Bassman said:
Because I never hear a peep from the Libs about it. Perhaps it's because the producers and job creators tend to lean conservative, while the entertainers, for the most part are clueless Liberals.
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I think you will find that rich either liberal or conservative should be taxed. I don't make any bones about that. I never have. I think the media uses the CEO term or executive term. I see rich as rich and poor as poor. So what would be the difference?
 
katiegrrl0 said:
When people take about taxing the wealthy I believe they would be included. What makes you think they are not?
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Do you know how many jobs are created in the entertainment industry? These stars bring in big dollars because they bring in big audiences thus employing a ridiculous amount of people from writers to makeup artists to gaffers to "the guy who dies in scene 4".

Now compare this to the parasites who sucked trillions of dollars out of our economy with their malfeasance.

Yes, they should be taxed like everyone else. Wesley Snipes found that out the hard way.
 
I don't mind entertainers and athletes getting taxed as long as wealthy televangelists gets audited also to make sure they are not using their churches as a tax dodge.
 
Bassman said:
Folks, with all of the catterwalling from the Left as to make the rich CEO's and coprerations pay their "fair share" (as if they don't already), how's about we go after the really obscenely rich instead. The entertainers and atheletes who make obscene amounts of money that make a CEO's annual salary look like pocket change. Hmmm, Lefties, how's about it??
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Sounds like a good plan to me. These people have done essentially nothing to justify their absurdly high wage, especially the athletes. Sports has sort of become a religion for this country. I'm gonna have to disagree with you on who makes more money, though. A top athlete is looking at a few million a year, usually. The pay for some businessmen can be in the tens or hundreds of millions.
 
Bassman said:
The entertainers and atheletes who make obscene amounts of money that make a CEO's annual salary look like pocket change. Hmmm, Lefties, how's about it??
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The highest paid CEO (Philippe P. Dauman) earned $84.5 million in 2010, the highest paid actor (Johnny Depp) earned $75 million, and only one sportsman earned more, which was Tiger Woods with $90.5 million. But I'm yet to see any liberal claim that actors and athletes shouldn't be taxed for their income anyway, so your point is moot.
 
Bassman said:
Folks, with all of the catterwalling from the Left as to make the rich CEO's and coprerations pay their "fair share" (as if they don't already), how's about we go after the really obscenely rich instead. The entertainers and atheletes who make obscene amounts of money that make a CEO's annual salary look like pocket change. Hmmm, Lefties, how's about it??
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Well, you forget a few things.

For one, much of the entertainment industry is organized labor. There's the Screen Actors Guild, the Directors Guild of America, and the Writers Guild of America. And that doesn't even count all the labor organizations for the technical occupations involved in the entertainment industry.

Because they are organized, they can demand basic contract obligations, such as dictate minimum pay, proper working conditions, mandatory breaks, and so forth. And there's a lot of solidarity between them. When the Writers Guild went on strike in 2007-08 so that writers could demand a percentage of DVD sales many actors supported them - despite the writers strike causing the cancellation of several TV shows, thus putting some actors out of business for that time.

So because the entertainment industry has a large amount of labor organization, the wealth that these actors, directors, and writers make gets spread around. These big budget actors only perform in movies that adhere to the rules of their industry which are negotiated between the labor organizations and the studios that produce and distribute these movies.

Then once a big budget actor or actress or even director makes a large amount of wealth they then use that wealth to create jobs. Tom Cruise has lately started producing films and has reinvigorated United Artists as a film production company. Quentin Tarantino markets films produced in Asia for the American market. George Lucas created Industrial Light and Magic in order to produce the special effects that he and others need for their movies - which doesn't even get into what the Star Wars franchise has done for television, books, graphic novels, video games, and even music composers.

So the reason why those who are the wealthiest in the mainstream entertainment industry don't get attacked by liberals is because the mainstream entertainment industry follows liberal business ideas - much of their labor is organized and most entertainers follow the obligations of those labor organizations.

So let's get more workers organized (though not necessarily unionized) and maybe lefties will holler a bit less against the CEOs and the corporations.
 
It looks like there aren't any lefties who oppose taxing wealthy celebrities

Another rightwing boner has been deflated and is now flaccid
 
Bassman said:
Folks, with all of the catterwalling from the Left as to make the rich CEO's and coprerations pay their "fair share" (as if they don't already), how's about we go after the really obscenely rich instead. The entertainers and atheletes who make obscene amounts of money that make a CEO's annual salary look like pocket change. Hmmm, Lefties, how's about it??
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When liberals talk about raising the top marginal rate, they are talking about raising it for everyone inside that tax bracket, not just CEO's. Find me one post where a liberal specifically asks to exclude athletes and actors from tax hikes and you'll have a point but if not then you're just spouting nonsense.
 
While nobody actually would exempt actors and athletes from this move to increase taxation on the wealthy, I doubt that entertainers are at the forefront of the minds of people making these arguments. Probably because we view entertainers are people who actually work, and produce something artistic, rather than simply wearing a suit and ordering money to be shuffled around. Yes, all those who make huge amounts of money should be putting a lot of that money back into the country to improve it. No exceptions. But Johnny Depp makes people happy, Philippe P. Dauman just makes people poor. That's why we don't talk about entertainers. But don't think for a second that their wealth is any different from anyone else's.
 
Bassman said:
Folks, with all of the catterwalling from the Left as to make the rich CEO's and coprerations pay their "fair share" (as if they don't already), how's about we go after the really obscenely rich instead. The entertainers and atheletes who make obscene amounts of money that make a CEO's annual salary look like pocket change. Hmmm, Lefties, how's about it??
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Since rich atheletes are almost uniformly right wing, I'm all for it. Why wouldn't they be? It's those right wing politicians that strive mightily to keep their taxes low.

Those 'entertainers' that you despise so much actually are working against their own interests when they advocate taxing the rich more.

I know that to a conservative, any approach other than pure greed and 'what's in it for me' seems strange and therefore dangerous, but that's your problem - not theirs.
 
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It seems to me that the reason leftists tend to talk more about wealthy CEOs and bankers is because of the various nefarious ways in which those people at least seem to typically make their money.
 
This OP was such a fail.
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atrasicarius said:
Sounds like a good plan to me. These people have done essentially nothing to justify their absurdly high wage, especially the athletes. Sports has sort of become a religion for this country. I'm gonna have to disagree with you on who makes more money, though. A top athlete is looking at a few million a year, usually. The pay for some businessmen can be in the tens or hundreds of millions.
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much envy I see. What bothers you more-an athlete like Rafa Nadal who earns prize money or a guy like A-Rod who takes the biggest contract some team is willing to offer?

what about Maria Sharapova getting millions in endorsements (far more than equally talented players like Lindsay Davenport) because she is prettier than some others. Does that get you upset?

and why should those people pay more taxes than you do? they get all that money because they trade a great deal of value for it.
 
TurtleDude said:
much envy I see. What bothers you more-an athlete like Rafa Nadal who earns prize money or a guy like A-Rod who takes the biggest contract some team is willing to offer?

what about Maria Sharapova getting millions in endorsements (far more than equally talented players like Lindsay Davenport) because she is prettier than some others. Does that get you upset?
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The banksters who made billions while destroying our economy.
 
sangha said:
The banksters who made billions while destroying our economy.
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the ones who gave Obama all that money?

yet you and others want to jack up taxes on everyone who makes more than a certain amount

and what is destroying this country is reckless spending that started with the NEw Deal
 
TurtleDude said:
the ones who gave Obama all that money?

yet you and others want to jack up taxes on everyone who makes more than a certain amount

and what is destroying this country is reckless spending that started with the NEw Deal
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Yeah, that damned New Deal. We were far better off when Hoovervilles kept the great unwashed in their place.
 
Wiggen said:
Yeah, that damned New Deal. We were far better off when Hoovervilles kept the great unwashed in their place.
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hoover jacked up taxes which was a moronic mistake
FDR kept the depression going for years and saddled us with breaking the bonds that restrained the federal governemnt
 
Bassman said:
Folks, with all of the catterwalling from the Left as to make the rich CEO's and coprerations pay their "fair share" (as if they don't already), how's about we go after the really obscenely rich instead. The entertainers and atheletes who make obscene amounts of money that make a CEO's annual salary look like pocket change. Hmmm, Lefties, how's about it??
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