Dem AG Targets 90 Conservative Groups in Climate Change Racketeering Suit

[Lord of Planar]

I'm dirtied you trust the scientists who told you that.

Sounds like librul groupthink to me. Those obliquity researchers just make that stuff up to get government grants.

Why do you keep butting into scientific adult concepts you don't understand, like how the tides change with the planetary alignments, and obliquity changing the angle of the earth... therefore... a locations subtle changes in the sea level?

Isn't it past your bedtime?

 

[Threegoofs]

Why do you keep butting into scientific adult concepts you don't understand, like how the tides change with the planetary alignments, and obliquity changing the angle of the earth... therefore... a locations subtle changes in the sea level?

Isn't it past your bedtime?

I'm on the west coast today.

But the point remains. There is no consensus on the obliquity of the earth.

Where's the poll of all scientists on this?

 

[Lord of Planar]

I'm on the west coast today.

But the point remains. There is no consensus on the obliquity of the earth.

Where's the poll of all scientists on this?

LOL...

Consensus.

LOL...

Polling...

What about the facts dictated by known physics? The changes in the pull of tidal forcing in centuries is subtle but real. cm/century of sea level change is also subtle.

Isn't it funny how sea level rise is focused on the equatorial areas and the polar areas are seeing the sea level decreasing?

 

[Threegoofs]

LOL...

Consensus.

LOL...

Polling...

What about the facts dictated by known physics? The changes in the pull of tidal forcing in centuries is subtle but real. cm/century of sea level change is also subtle.

Isn't it funny how sea level rise is focused on the equatorial areas and the polar areas are seeing the sea level decreasing?

Well, Dr Lazlo at the flat earth blog disagrees and has a petition of thousands of scientists who agree with him.

Show me your data where you can prove a consensus of these 'known physics'.

I subscribe to a journal, so I know these things.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Well, Dr Lazlo at the flat earth blog disagrees and has a petition of thousands of scientists who agree with him.

Show me your data where you can prove a consensus of these 'known physics'.

I subscribe to a journal, so I know these things.

OMG...

I will not show wast my time to show you how planetary bodies affect the lull on fluids on the planetary bodies around them. That's like High School physics.

Maybe first, you should look at how the earth's obliquity is changing...

Maybe you are the true denier. Dismissing facts before checking.

 

[Lord of Planar]

I have to go, but maybe this will help your understanding:

Loss of Planetary Tilt Could Doom Alien Life - Astrobiology Magazine

 

[Threegoofs]

OMG...

I will not show wast my time to show you how planetary bodies affect the lull on fluids on the planetary bodies around them. That's like High School physics.

Maybe first, you should look at how the earth's obliquity is changing...

Maybe you are the true denier. Dismissing facts before checking.

Well, I just want to see the proof of consensus. My kids learned about the dangers of AGW in high school physics, does that mean it's the truth?

 

[Lord of Planar]

Well, I just want to see the proof of consensus. My kids learned about the dangers of AGW in high school physics, does that mean it's the truth?

Schools have become indoctrination centers. Global warming is real, both natural and unnatural. If they are teaching the "dangers," as a reality, then they shouldn't be licensed to teach. The climate sciences are still a very new and inaccurate science.

Do you realize how absolutely laughable wanting a consensus vote on a science topic is?

 

[Lord of Planar]

There is the answer:

http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/earth-at...ing-2008/lecture-notes/MIT12_802S08_lec11.pdf

 

[Steve Case]

...How soon will this tactic be extended to any aspect of liberal / progressive ideology and the people that doubt those?

A lot sooner if Mrs. Clinton wins in November.

 

[Lord of Planar]

A lot sooner if Mrs. Clinton wins in November.

My prediction is if she wins, she will doom the democrat party with her actions as president.

 

[ocean515]

Obviously, you don't understand the OP.
No one is trying to criminalize scientists work.

They are demonstrating fraud in groups that are trying to defraud the public dishonestly.

LOL

Clearly you don't understand the OP. Why do you think that is?

Further, why are AGW'sts so afraid of science that calls their methodology into question that they would seek to criminalize the effort? When the only solution being demanded is a complete surrender of the human race to these edicts from climate elites, don't you think it's important to consider the multitude of issues that have been raised?

It's not like the "final solution" is optional to anyone. It's total surrender. The mitigation plan requires complete surrender of the human race to the plan, the largest transfer of wealth in the history of mankind, a total end to select industries and employment in them, and a abdication of governance to a select body of elites who have no allegiance to the people they will rule over.

How detached does one's intellect have to be to not have these facts set off alarms? I would suggest a frontal lobotomy would leave more intellect than what is being demonstrated by those who choose to ignore this "inconvenient truth" about AGW and it's end game.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Further, why are AGW'sts so afraid of science that calls their methodology into question that they would seek to criminalize the effort? When the only solution being demanded is a complete surrender of the human race to these edicts from climate elites, don't you think it's important to consider the multitude of issues that have been raised?

Seems to me that those threatening the others are the ones that should be brought up on charges.

 

[eohrnberger]

A lot sooner if Mrs. Clinton wins in November.

Indeed.

#NeverHillary

 

[eohrnberger]

Seems to me that those threatening the others are the ones that should be brought up on charges.

I'd agree.

Seems little more than an ideologically based attack from an ideology that can't handle the heat in the kitchen (i.e. critical inspection).

But what else would you expect from the typical liberal / progressive arrogance: 'Just believe what I say and don't question it, we know better than you'?

 

[eohrnberger]

My prediction is if she wins, she will doom the democrat party with her actions as president.

This could very well happen, but I have a feeling that she'd stop before complete doom of the party, the party elite would put the brakes on her.

Why is it that the Dem's seem so willing to follow their leaders off of a cliff like Lemmings?

I stated this about Obama, and sure enough, the Dems lost both the House and then the Senate, as well as a great many of the Governorships and state legislatures. Seems that they'd be willing to do the same with Hillary, but why?

 

[ocean515]

Seems to me that those threatening the others are the ones that should be brought up on charges.

Hard to disagree. What are they so threatened by that they seek to criminalize those who don't toe the line? All things considered, why deny the scientific method that dictates all sides of a theory must be encouraged and considered?

IMO, it's the colossal monetary rewards, and the foundational edict of the global social justice agenda they admit drives the effort.

 

[legalimmigrant]

What are they so threatened by that they seek to criminalize those who don't toe the line?

My parents survived fascism which punished those who didn't toe the line. I escaped communism which punished those who didn't toe the line. Now, Americans want to punish those who don't toe the line.

You are really stupid beyond redemption.

 

[ocean515]

My parents survived fascism which punished those who didn't toe the line. I escaped communism which punished those who didn't toe the line. Now, Americans want to punish those who don't toe the line.

You are really stupid beyond redemption.

Well, I don't know about being beyond redemption. The US did survive a Civil War, and it has prospered after slogging through many tests along the road to the realization of its destiny.

The bigger question is whether mankind is beyond redemption on this issue. Will it allow itself to be subjugated so easily to forces it is not allowed to question?

As you pointed out, history is replete with examples of such subjugation, and I would imagine in the aftermath those who suffered from the result questioned how they allowed it to happen in the first place.

 

[Threegoofs]

Schools have become indoctrination centers. Global warming is real, both natural and unnatural. If they are teaching the "dangers," as a reality, then they shouldn't be licensed to teach. The climate sciences are still a very new and inaccurate science.

Do you realize how absolutely laughable wanting a consensus vote on a science topic is?

Ah. So what you're saying is that high schools are indoctrinating kids on the sphericity of the Earth.

I think they shouldn't tteach that till its established science.

 

[Russell797]

Liars should be punished. Promulgating lies and false characterizations with the goal of deceiving the public (and their representatives in government) about the state of a science should be considered a crime against humanity. This isn't a free speech issue, it's a moral issue. The state of the science is resolute in it's standing on the issue of anthropogenic global warming and climate change.

Arguing against the stance of the National Academy of Sciences, NASA, NOAA for political reasoning should be be seen in the context that it is. Collusion and lying.

 

[legalimmigrant]

Well, I don't know about being beyond redemption.

I fear for the U.S. because there is no one out there to force sanity back.

Fascism fell because the U.S. beat the crap out of them. Communism fell of its own dead weight and thanks to Reagan. The only solution to the American spiral of fiscal death is to renege on the debt and break the country up just as it happened to the USSR and Yugoslavia. The American federalism was a good idea and so was communism. Both unsustainable.

 

[legalimmigrant]

Liars should be punished. Promulgating lies and false characterizations with the goal of deceiving the public (and their representatives in government) about the state of a science should be considered a crime against humanity. This isn't a free speech issue, it's a moral issue. The state of the science is resolute in it's standing on the issue of anthropogenic global warming and climate change.

Arguing against the stance of the National Academy of Sciences, NASA, NOAA for political reasoning should be be seen in the context that it is. Collusion and lying.

Lügner bestraft werden sollte.

Лжецы должен быть наказан.

爱说谎的人应当受到惩罚。

거짓말쟁이들은 단죄해야 한다.

Sick.

 

[longview]

Liars should be punished. Promulgating lies and false characterizations with the goal of deceiving the public (and their representatives in government) about the state of a science should be considered a crime against humanity. This isn't a free speech issue, it's a moral issue. The state of the science is resolute in it's standing on the issue of anthropogenic global warming and climate change.

Arguing against the stance of the National Academy of Sciences, NASA, NOAA for political reasoning should be be seen in the context that it is. Collusion and lying.

Expressing skepticism and questioning testability and repeatability of results,
goes to the heart of what we call the scientific method.
To deny critics the ability to review and critique questionable results, or even postulate
alternative theories, is to deny science itself.

 

[ocean515]

I fear for the U.S. because there is no one out there to force sanity back.

Fascism fell because the U.S. beat the crap out of them. Communism fell of its own dead weight and thanks to Reagan. The only solution to the American spiral of fiscal death is to renege on the debt and break the country up just as it happened to the USSR and Yugoslavia. The American federalism was a good idea and so was communism. Both unsustainable.

Communism was never a good idea.

As I wrote before, the US has survived many tests, and it will survive this current period.

Imagine the collective mind set that brought about a constitutional amendment banning alcohol. The country returned to sanity after that, and the Progressives of the day returned to the shadows. The current fascination with Socialist Progressivism that seeks a one world government will follow the same course.

The reality is, Mankind has never shown an ability to operate as one, so the fantasy they are pushing will never come about.