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Delta strain of COVID-19 surges in Midwest, areas with low vax rates

I saw a study that 99% of infections occur indoors.

It has ALWAYS been understood that getting outside, in the sun and fresh air is high on the list to do when the cold or flu is going around.

Instead, people were told to stay indoors unless packing into WalMart and big box stores.

When anyone tries to use threats and fear to motivate me to do what is in their interests and against mine, that sales pitch is going to fail.
Yes, had people been outside going to the beach, parks, even gyms things would have been far better. Blocking off parks and beaches might have been the dumbest thing the politicians did.
 
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2 things i believe very much. Vaccinations help, no doubt about it. Also, i dont think anyone here wishes death on anyone. I am certain of that.
 
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:rolleyes: It's not a cult though........

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Nice illustration of the Trumpers' total lack of any coherent position or thought process.
 
You're fairly new. Be careful deciding who is cool based upon popularity. That is highly partisan on this forum. My other advise is never draw any conclusion about any poster based on the basement (and remember the Vegas rules). Many posters the better ones refuse to participate in the basement - and others can not post in the basement.

There is nothing cool about his message and this is not an uncommon set of personal opinions and hatred that appear to totally consume im over and over again. He is a VERY angry old man in his messages and self description on the forum.

Like who you like for sure and who I like in a personal sense isn't partisan. But remember, this is an anonymous forum and the longer you are here the more you will see the distinction between partisan popular members, members who are blindly pure partisan, and those members who think independently. I often break from party line and often have a 3rd opinion - meaning time and time time may disagree with anyone. That is the path to unpopularity on the forum since for most it is about blind partisanship.

You would think every Democrat would condemn calling for people to die, but doing so would be disloyal to the team - and particularly on the progressive Democrat side it is all about the team. You can find thousands and thousands of messages by Trump supporters - including me - criticizing Trump severely.

Try to find a progressive criticizing Biden or Obama in any real way - or any other Democratic poster. You can't. Progressivism is about collectivism, for which loyalty to the leadership - in both the public and private sector - must be absolute and unquestioning. To be a progressive Democrat is to agree to be nothing but a little cog in the Democratic machinery run by others. A person exists solely to serve the collective. Call it fascism, socialism, communism or totalitarianism.

Kind of keep an eye out for that distinction between Republicans and Democrats on the forum.

^ That's just my view of it.
I like to see the best in everyone. We all get heated at times. And thanks.
 
I dont think the unvaccinated have much to worry about, and the vaccinated absolutely nothing. Again, i dont think anyone really wants people to die.

I'm so confused. How many hundreds of thousands of Americans have to die from something before we worry? I remember the good old days when a few thousand Americans dying on 9/11 was enough to spark a global crisis. 200 times as many Americans dying is no big deal now?
 
I'm so confused. How many hundreds of thousands of Americans have to die from something before we worry? I remember the good old days when a few thousand Americans dying on 9/11 was enough to spark a global crisis. 200 times as many Americans dying is no big deal now?
She's talking about now, the impact of Delta coupled with half the country being immunized. You can't argue that things are as grim as they were last year at this time.
 
I will have to find the exact link but people who have been vaccinated and people who have been infected are still being uselessly tested. They find a viral colony stuck up someones nose and call it a case even though they are fine. Back on march 10 the CDC actually said only people exhibig symptoms and the most vulnerable should be the only ones tested but there was such an uproar they allowed politics to change what they said.
 
She's talking about now, the impact of Delta coupled with half the country being immunized. You can't argue that things are as grim as they were last year at this time.
I could argue it, but I don't believe they are. Is that the point, whether things are worse than a year ago? Having "absolutely nothing" to worry about seems like a different standard than that,
 
She's talking about now, the impact of Delta coupled with half the country being immunized. You can't argue that things are as grim as they were last year at this time.

Thats what the CDC said on march 10

"The CDC recommends people get a viral test to determine if they have a current infection. The CDC's current testing guidelines suggest people should get tested if they experience COVID-19 symptoms, had close contact with someone who tested positive for the coronavirus or had to do a high-risk activity or job."

If that were being followed now the positive test rate would plummet. We dont need to be testing everyone under the sun. If they applied the same logic to the flu and tested everyone for it, symptoms or not there would probably 250,000,000 supposed cases of the flu right now.
 
The rich and powerful, those in government and the private sector, again proved "give a person a little power and they will become total tyrannts.

Think of how truly CRUEL they have been. Unthinkably and grotesquely unconstitutionally cruel. Sadistically and sociopathically cruel.

Just 2 examples;

Example #1: A single mother of 3 school age children. A less than average IQ - like 49% of the population and high school dropout. Working 2 part time jobs. Using her mom and an aunt to look after the children when not at school, on the 6th floor of an old apartment building, in a 1 bedroom 500 square foot apartment. Smaller than that not uncommon in such as NYC.

One of over 20,000 "executive officers" - no legislation and many not elected - summarily degree the following

1. She is permanently laid off, because your business declared illegal and financially ruined.
2. She must home school her children, fully incapable of doing so intellectually
3. She can never take her children to her mom's or aunt's house - 24/7 NO break from the children for an indefinitely period of time - over a year at least.
I go list more...
And this despite everything showed there was not a 1 in 100,000 chance she could die of covid-19 - and not one in 1,000,000 chance any of her children will - with almost all causes of childhood deaths more likely.
That's not what matters, she is irrelevant. That cruelty irrelevant. What matter?
Most of her money will go to Jeff Bezos - who will pocket 15% to 50% of it, with the rest sent to China since Amazon, like WalMart, are Chinese retail outlets. In return, Amazon will overnight covid-19 to her apartment, noting over 20,000 Amazon Prime employees were covid-19 positive. That's why. The core of that example applies to millions of poor single parents.

Example 2: An elderly woman we know. Widow. She gets about $1000 a month in SS, that's all. Irish, she had a tiny Irish products only store. Maybe 450 square feet. Very costly. The wool cape we bought nearly $500, but it will still be good for one of our grand daughters, where any Chinese clothing is in the trash in less than a year (studies have shown that the expensive goods the wealthy buy actually cost less than the same Chinese made cheap products, even if costing 10 times more.)

Customers rare. Most days no one. But now and then someone will want a true Irish kilt and full outfit. Necessary supplemental income and purpose to her life.

The totalitarian edict? Her business summarily declared a criminal operation. Financial ruin - permanent. Evicted unable to pay commercial the $300 commercial rent - so her little travel trailer she lives if to the ceiling with inventory too good to throw away and unable to sell. She did not know how she would survive in the most literal sense - other than stop taking all medication, turning off the A/C and heat, and eating as cheaply as possible - a story for hundreds of thousands of small businesses.

But don't worry. Join the mob at WalMart's Chinese clothing department. The WalMart heirs only have $20 billion each.

We never had her personal number, so couldn't try to come to her rescue. Don't know what happened to her. Probably found dead in her little trailer. GREAT - count it as a covid-19 death! She doesn't matter. Shoppers don't matter. None of them feed the politicians. The politicians and their relatives don't have stock in businesses like her. So her death a plus - both for the bioterrorism campaign and falsely calling it a covid-19 death highly profitable to the medical industry.

Totalitarian edicts threw millions of elderly into destitution until the day they die - destroying their jobs, their micro businesses and in so many other ways, plus killing them by edicts destroying them economically - which kills the elderly in many ways - lack of medical care, prescriptions, no utilities, bad food, so isolated, afraid and depressed - and hopeless - the cease caring for themselves welcoming death, can't by pain medication, etc etc.

The level of Mao and Stalin style murderous and torturous cruelty against us peasants previously unthinkable before not and 100 times more totalitarian than what the American Revolutionary War was about.

What we learned is the Constitution and Bill Of Rights are worthless as rights, only privileges we may no not be allowed - and at the very core how truly cruel, amoral and sociopathic the government and the corporate private sector truly have become in this country. They'll kill you to get themselves or the super rich the profit from $1 dollar - or just to prove how powerful they are.

It is now entirely legal for over 20,000 "executive officers" to order your death. A cruel death in solitary. Summarily. No appeal allowed.
 
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Just one last point about why the positive test rate is meaningless. When you hear about all the people who had the vaccination testing positive(NY Yankees) there is a very good reason for it and it shows very clearly why way too much testing is being done. When they stick that swab up a nose it might pick up a viral colony in the nose. A vaccination can never stop that. It stops the virus if it invades the body. People who have been vaccinated or people who have already been infected have no reason to be continued to be tested.
 

Delta strain of COVID-19 surges in Midwest, areas with low vax rates​


The highly contagious Delta strain of COVID-19 is surging in the Midwest and other areas with low vaccination rates, the White House said Thursday — as Dr. Anthony Fauci stressed that all three jabs available in the US protect against it.

The variant is soaring in “the Midwest and upper Mountain states,
” where it now makes up 80 percent of cases, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said at a press briefing.

This rapid rise is troubling,” she said, adding that the variant is now the most prevalent COVID-19 strain in the US.
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I want it to selectively take out the anti-maskers & anti-vaxxers who are causing their own misery & infecting others. That will mean far fewer infected people giving it to others. And if I have the picture right. that has the added bonus of getting rid of the right-wing idiots who still support that jackass sociopath Trump.
So some people in the midwest got the sniffles? How is that a national issue?
 
That is the most outrageous, amoral and immoral message I've even seen on the forum - openly calling for the deaths of openly calling for the death of over 50% of American population - nearly 200,000,00 people and for the deaths of all Trump supporters as well.

It's pretty difficult to have "over 50%" being "anti-vaxxers" when more than 68% have already been vaccinated. (You do know that when you subtract 68 from 100 you have a remainder of 32 and that 32 is NOT "more than 50%" of 100, don't you?

BTW, those people who do not subscribe to "The **D*O*C*T*O*R** Mashmont Method of Arithmetical Figuring" know that 50% of the US population is nearly 152,000,000 people and not 200,000,00 (sic) people.
 
Just one last point about why the positive test rate is meaningless. When you hear about all the people who had the vaccination testing positive(NY Yankees) there is a very good reason for it and it shows very clearly why way too much testing is being done. When they stick that swab up a nose it might pick up a viral colony in the nose. A vaccination can never stop that. It stops the virus if it invades the body. People who have been vaccinated or people who have already been infected have no reason to be continued to be tested.

The level of "medical knowledge" exhibited in that post is breath taking (and I don't mean that kindly).
 
Does JacksinPA want this to apply worldwide, wiping out probably 90+% non-white people on earth? Since they might sneak into the USA, the answer appears and obvious yes - calling for 6 billion to die.

Have a nice millennium.
 
I could argue it, but I don't believe they are. Is that the point, whether things are worse than a year ago? Having "absolutely nothing" to worry about seems like a different standard than that,
Yeah, that's an exaggeration. But for a young, healthy woman who has been vaccinated, it's pretty much true for her. I certainly disagree that the unvaccinated 'don't have much to worry about,' because that includes a lot of people at high risk. However, according to tracking by the NYT, nationwide the death count is now averaging in the low hundreds as compared to the thousands who were dying per day a few months ago. The Delta variant is already the dominant type now, according to the CDC, so it may very well be good news, as Sarah says.

Every death is one too many, especially since most are preventable, but things are looking up.
 
Yeah, that's an exaggeration. But for a young, healthy woman who has been vaccinated, it's pretty much true for her. I certainly disagree that the unvaccinated 'don't have much to worry about,' because that includes a lot of people at high risk. However, according to tracking by the NYT, nationwide the death count is now averaging in the low hundreds as compared to the thousands who were dying per day a few months ago. The Delta variant is already the dominant type now, according to the CDC, so it may very well be good news, as Sarah says.

Every death is one too many, especially since most are preventable, but things are looking up.
Fair enough, nothing I disagree with there.
 
Going thru the national data on hospitalizations i dont see an emergency.

President Biden's exact words while campaigning: "We (Democrats) will no longer accept facts."
 
Yeah, that's an exaggeration. But for a young, healthy woman who has been vaccinated, it's pretty much true for her. I certainly disagree that the unvaccinated 'don't have much to worry about,' because that includes a lot of people at high risk. However, according to tracking by the NYT, nationwide the death count is now averaging in the low hundreds as compared to the thousands who were dying per day a few months ago. The Delta variant is already the dominant type now, according to the CDC, so it may very well be good news, as Sarah says.

Every death is one too many, especially since most are preventable, but things are looking up.
Just because things are looking up doesn't mean we should not be vigilant. the Delta varient is more contagious, and for people who have not had the vaccine, more severe for many of the younger age groups. In addition, the benefits for at least the pfizer drops off more steeply for the delta variant after 6 months. .. although the risk of hospitalization only dropped from 98% protection to 93% protection. The need for a booster for it will drop down significantly if more people get vaccinated.
 
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