I dont think the unvaccinated have much to worry about, and the vaccinated absolutely nothing. Again, i dont think anyone really wants people to die.
Unfortunately, your views on progressive politics are wrong. Hardly any Democratic politicians are progressive.Progressivism is about collectivism, for which loyalty to the leadership - in both the public and private sector - must be absolute and unquestioning. To be a progressive Democrat is to agree to be nothing but a little cog in the Democratic machinery run by others. A person exists solely to serve the collective. Call it fascism, socialism, communism or totalitarianism.
Well, i refuse to think people want other people to die because they differ with them. And again, natural immunity plus vaccinations are ending this every day. viruses mutate all the time which is why there are uncounted cold viruses.Why should I worry? I think all of us in our circle has covid-19, not one of us hospitalized and not one death. We follow the anti 1920s Spanish flu "science." They copied the Spanish flu "science" - only worse because they made exceptions for the billionaires - so got the same result as they wanted.
Notice how no Democrat so far will post your second sentence?
Unfortunately, your views on progressive politics are wrong. Hardly any Democratic politicians are progressive.
I agree there. We will never know now but had the most vulnerable been protected and the rest of us left alone my guess is fewer people would have died.If left to run it's course, while quarantining the at risk, a virus will always evolve to being less lethal - as essentially most contagious diseases do. They will kill and hospitalize the most vulnerable, who accordingly should be quarantined.
Simply, the most lethal forms kill the host, and the weaker forms are the ones that survive. As a result, it will continue to weaken.
Instead, they stretched this out, knowing this would insure increasing evolution to new variants - the only way to make covid-19 perpetual. Perpetual crisis is perpetual more power and wealth accumulation of those obviously profiting from it.
Study world history. Hitler, Stalin, Mao. Study the KKK. All of world history is largely defined by groups, organizations and governments that want people another demographic to die, killed. There is a very dark side to the humans. Laws and authority are to suppress it.Well, i refuse to think people want other people to die because they differ with them. And again, natural immunity plus vaccinations are ending this every day. viruses mutate all the time which is why there are uncounted cold viruses.
I agree with you on the virus 100% but i know everyone here is a good person and none fit into those groups.Study world history. Hitler, Stalin, Mao. Study the KKK. All of world history is largely defined by groups, organizations and governments that want people another demographic to die, killed. There is a very dark side to the humans. Laws and authority are to suppress it.
Progressive means a lot of things but grassroots organization to work toward a better world (not controlled by the powerful and wealthy) is a main characteristic. Both dominant parties are corporate, progressives aren't. Green Party.They are not liberal. "Progressive" in my opinion means corporate fascism in application. What do you say it means in political theory?
I agree there. We will never know now but had the most vulnerable been protected and the rest of us left alone my guess is fewer people would have died.
I agree with you on the virus 100% but i know everyone here is a good person and none fit into those groups.
How does "being left alone" result in less people dying from Covid-19?I agree there. We will never know now but had the most vulnerable been protected and the rest of us left alone my guess is fewer people would have died.
Lets just celebrate the good news that delta isnt ravaging the nation unless you listen to cable news.Yes, and despite trillions and trillions spent, there wasn't $1 to quarantine those at risk in ways that are humane and insure their needs, including human contact, are provided. Instead, the elderly, many already isolated and alone, were completely ignored by the government. We did not disregard those we know at risk. They were the priority.
But I also will say in my opinion the numbers were deliberately grotesquely escalated - as extreme as offering 5 figure bounties for each death called a covid-19 death (with not testing or audit) and death report forms automatically reporting all deaths as covid-19 deaths unless proactively stated as otherwise. This is unprecedented in American or world history from what I could find.
However, those are old topics on this forum.
I back you when I see you say something good. The above isn't good.Yes, and despite trillions and trillions spent, there wasn't $1 to quarantine those at risk in ways that are humane and insure their needs, including human contact, are provided. Instead, the elderly, many already isolated and alone, were completely ignored by the government. We did not disregard those we know at risk. They were the priority.
But I also will say in my opinion the numbers were deliberately grotesquely escalated - as extreme as offering 5 figure bounties for each death called a covid-19 death (with not testing or audit) and death report forms automatically reporting all deaths as covid-19 deaths unless proactively stated as otherwise. This is unprecedented in American or world history from what I could find.
However, those are old topics on this forum.
How would that have worked? Anyone over 70 be quarantined indefinitely? What about other younger household members? Would the oldsters need to go somewhere else to be protected? Where? Who would do their shopping? If they needed to see a doctor, would the doctor make housecalls? Of course, age isn't the only high risk factor. Those who are obese or have heart conditions would have to be quarantined, regardless of age. That's a lot of people, Sarah, many more than you probably realize.I agree there. We will never know now but had the most vulnerable been protected and the rest of us left alone my guess is fewer people would have died.
I back you when I see you say something good. The above isn't good.
How does "being left alone" result in less people dying from Covid-19?
For 2 reasons. Natural immunity would have spread much more quickly and numerous studies have shown corona was most likely to be spread within the home where people were concentrated. Also, there is some dispute as to whether mitigations actually made it worse by prolonging it. Someone told me in another thread while every state chart showed the virus spiked AFTER the mitigations were put into place masks still helped to slow it down. That is a possiblilty, but i could just as easily say masks made it worse. Both are equally possible to be correct.How does "being left alone" result in less people dying from Covid-19?
There's a possibility that Republican states will exploit the emergency, to make laws that promote the use of therapeutics. That would be an actual solution that has the potential of eradicating the disease.
Instead of getting vaccin shots every year for the rest of your life, with increasing damage of the vaccins.
What emergency?There's a possibility that Republican states will exploit the emergency, to make laws that promote the use of therapeutics. That would be an actual solution that has the potential of eradicating the disease.
Instead of getting vaccin shots every year for the rest of your life, with increasing damage of the vaccins.
For 2 reasons. Natural immunity would have spread much more quickly and numerous studies have shown corona was most likely to be spread within the home where people were concentrated. Also, there is some dispute as to whether mitigations actually made it worse by prolonging it. Someone told me in another thread while every state chart showed the virus spiked AFTER the mitigations were put into place masks still helped to slow it down. That is a possiblilty, but i could just as easily say masks made it worse. Both are equally possible to be correct.
one other thing that bothered me. All the models always predicted the virus and death rate to be magnitudes higher than they were. If the data they were putting in wasnt politically influenced to acheive the desired result of panic then reasonable people would expect that models would have shown equal amouns of outcomes which were above what happened and below. They all grossly overestimated what happened.