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Delegate Count as of 3/6/2016

My reactions:

If Rubio can't hack it on the 8th and/or the 15th, stick a fork in him because he'll be done.
Trump will do better on the 8th and most likely on the 15th.
Cruz...meh. He's almost the same distance behind Trump in # of delegates as he was before last night.
 
wow that was a weak list of people who aren't in charge of anything to do with being President.

Sessions endorsed Trump.

If anything the congressional representatives have more power of who becomes president then senators. If for instance in the 2000 race did not produce a winner, it would have went to the house of representatives....not the Senate.
 
My reactions:

If Rubio can't hack it on the 8th and/or the 15th, stick a fork in him because he'll be done.
Trump will do better on the 8th and most likely on the 15th.
Cruz...meh. He's almost the same distance behind Trump in # of delegates as he was before last night.

Which could possibly change rather quickly if Cruz gains momentum as we approach the winner take all states.
 
cruz has no chance in the general election...and since it's looking like a brokered convention that means trump will run independent.
 
cruz has no chance in the general election...and since it's looking like a brokered convention that means trump will run independent.

Trump himself has admitted that he is not likely to go independant because he knows he would not win and would just hand it to Hillary.
 
Trump himself has admitted that he is not likely to go independant because he knows he would not win and would just hand it to Hillary.

when they broker the convention he will, that's how he is, the 21st century version of the bull moose party is inbound.
 
I don't think Trump will run independent either...but if a brokered convention gives the nomination to someone else, I doubt he will encourage his followers to vote for the nominee. And even if he did, they are going to be a vindictive lot...and the Republicans, if they do nominate someone else, may lose them no matter what.
 
If anything the congressional representatives have more power of who becomes president then senators. If for instance in the 2000 race did not produce a winner, it would have went to the house of representatives....not the Senate.

you can't get anything done as President without the Senate.
 
DELEGATE COUNT (it differs slightly depending on the source)

REPUBLICAN (total delegates 2472; 1237 needed to win)

Trump 385 (or 392)
Cruz 298 (or 305)
Rubio 126

DEMOCRATIC (total delegates 4762)

Clinton 1131 (or 1092)
Sanders 479 (or 480)


Cruz is gaining. Rubio is toast. Looks like the Romney attack may have had some impact on Trump? And no number of establishment endorsements seems to have any helpful effect on Rubio's results (or maybe it has, but the original results would have been even worse).

Lindsay Graham, who hates Cruz, is now saying they may have to rally around Cruz as the only way to stop Trump. So the Cruz votes may be at least in part anti-Trump votes rather than pro-Cruz votes. That doesn't bode well for the general election, if Cruz wins the nomination, since the voters won't be passionate about voting for Cruz?



Here is a good source that is updated as needed.
It defaults to Democratic, but the Republican tab is before it and they are just above the graphic.







   
 
The fat lady has not yet sung!

He may win. He MAY actually carry California! Lots of young people.

I want Hillary Clinton to win...but I would also be delighted with Bernie Sanders. He probably is closer to what I want for the country...but I see her as a winner...and I do NOT want the Republicans to control all three branches no matter what.

i don't either. i think that they would pass the Paul Ryan budget and privatize Medicare.

Okay. I'm not sure of what you meant here. If Bernie were to garner more votes than Hillary...I think the super delegates will not intervene on behalf of Hillary...and will drop her.

same as in 2008.

I still haven't given up on the political system as now constituted.

i have pretty much given up on the party system. i'm serious about banning it. if there were no political parties tomorrow, i'd do a backflip, and i can't even do a backflip.
 
All the more reason to do it. We need to remember why we have rules like CONGRESS being the only ones able to declare war in the first place.

yeah, because congress has been declaring all of the perpetual wars.
 
About the only thing that can happen in the republican party that would help the democrat nominee is if the republicans go to a brokered election and stupidly steal the nomination from whoever has the most votes.

it's looking like you'll get the moronic clown Donald Trump. good luck, and don't feel bad. Clinton will be the only other choice.
 
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, Ted Cruz is an establishment candidate. IE, more of the same.



Look, I get it, this is my opinion, and you have yours. But I assure you, if Cruz gets the nomination, we can prepare for at least 4 years of Clinton, because his nomination WILL split the party. All the masses that are supporting Trump now are NOT going to vote for Cruz, for exactly the reason that they WANT to vote for Trump. They'll end up either NOT voting at all, or voting 3rd party, of which, the pickings are slim. Sure, SOME, a FEW, will down a couple shots of whiskey, and then pop a check mark next Cruz, and then pound a gingerale to keep from vomiting...but it won't be the numbers he'll need to defeat Hillary. Why? Because of apathy. Most of us who support Donald Trump don't do so because we feel he's going to be a great president, lol. We support him because he won't be more of the same. Cruz and Hillary will be.
Cruz has solid tea party cred and, unlike Rubio, hasn't been playing ball with the establishment. That's about as outside the establishment as you can get and still hold elective office.

Perhaps holding office does disqualify him by the "throw the bums out" metric. However, that means Ron Paul would have been "establishment" as well, an appelation that is bordering on nonsensical. I contend that similar reasoning applies to Cruz.

Now, if the RNC plays fast and loose with the rules to promote Cruz, and Cruz accepts this, I'd say you're right. Until then, and only if then, the estabmlishment moniker is inappropriate.
 
Why are you so obsessed with Romney? Using him as a gauge for all other GOP candidates is goofy.
It was is response to the narrative rhat the last two POTUS election cycles show some sort of irreversible trend. I contend that it was more the result of a cult of personality against weak opponents.
 
I disagree with the last part. If Cruz wins the nomination, he will easily beat Hillary. The republican turn out in the primaries is breaking records while the democrat turnout is down by at least 30%. Hillary is not a likeable candidate.

The Republican voters are turning out for Trump, mainly, according to the votes. And the passion shown at the rallies. Although there is the core Tea Party crowd that is enthusiastic about Cruz (as they are always enthusiastic about any Tea Partier). Texas, Cruz's home state , has an enormous Tea Party crowd, unlike most other states. O&G tea partiers.
 
My reactions:

If Rubio can't hack it on the 8th and/or the 15th, stick a fork in him because he'll be done.
Trump will do better on the 8th and most likely on the 15th.
Cruz...meh. He's almost the same distance behind Trump in # of delegates as he was before last night.

I'm pretty sure he's done already. I don't see a logical way he wins.
 
The Republican voters are turning out for Trump, mainly, according to the votes. And the passion shown at the rallies. Although there is the core Tea Party crowd that is enthusiastic about Cruz (as they are always enthusiastic about any Tea Partier). Texas, Cruz's home state , has an enormous Tea Party crowd, unlike most other states. O&G tea partiers.

the tea partiers supported romney too.

30 percent of the GOP yelling about the govt won't accomplish a damned thing
 
When I looked earlier, I didn't include Bloomberg because it was behind in the tally.

That is fine.
Just adding a an online source.
 
when they broker the convention he will, that's how he is, the 21st century version of the bull moose party is inbound.

We don't know that. He might if he goes in with the most votes and they steal it from him. He has claimed, that if he is treated fairly, he has no motive to go independant as he knows he cannot win that way. If he has less votes then Cruz by convention time, he is being treated fairly.
 
I don't think Trump will run independent either...but if a brokered convention gives the nomination to someone else, I doubt he will encourage his followers to vote for the nominee. And even if he did, they are going to be a vindictive lot...and the Republicans, if they do nominate someone else, may lose them no matter what.

If he goes to the convention with the most votes and loses in a brokered convention, then you are right.
 
when they broker the convention he will, that's how he is, the 21st century version of the bull moose party is inbound.

No. He's already pledged to support the Republican nominee, as have the others. Only thing is....that pledge hurts only Trump, in the case of a nomination taken away.
 
you can't get anything done as President without the Senate.

Give it up. Other then then getting his cabinet and judges confirmed, there's not much he can do without the house of reps either. Passsing any legislation has to go through the Senate and the House.
 
Give it up. Other then then getting his cabinet and judges confirmed, there's not much he can do without the house of reps either. Passsing any legislation has to go through the Senate and the House.

Cruz has no endorsements

Donald is right
 
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