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Delegate Count as of 3/6/2016

JumpinJack

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DELEGATE COUNT (it differs slightly depending on the source)

REPUBLICAN (total delegates 2472; 1237 needed to win)

Trump 385 (or 392)
Cruz 298 (or 305)
Rubio 126

DEMOCRATIC (total delegates 4762)

Clinton 1131 (or 1092)
Sanders 479 (or 480)


Cruz is gaining. Rubio is toast. Looks like the Romney attack may have had some impact on Trump? And no number of establishment endorsements seems to have any helpful effect on Rubio's results (or maybe it has, but the original results would have been even worse).

Lindsay Graham, who hates Cruz, is now saying they may have to rally around Cruz as the only way to stop Trump. So the Cruz votes may be at least in part anti-Trump votes rather than pro-Cruz votes. That doesn't bode well for the general election, if Cruz wins the nomination, since the voters won't be passionate about voting for Cruz?

:popcorn2:
 
Exactly. If the GOP is THAT stupid, then I guess this will be their last hurrah. Because a Cruz nomination WILL mean a Clinton presidency.
 
Rubio has been toast - and I don't know why he's stubbornly hanging on.

And if the Republican Party didn't want to gut themselves on the debacle of Trump then they shouldn't have opened the door for him to walk through.
 
JumpinJack said:
DELEGATE COUNT (it differs slightly depending on the source)

REPUBLICAN (total delegates 2472; 1237 needed to win)

Trump 385 (or 392)
Cruz 298 (or 305)
Rubio 126

DEMOCRATIC (total delegates 4762)

Clinton 1131 (or 1092)
Sanders 479 (or 480)


Cruz is gaining. Rubio is toast. Looks like the Romney attack may have had some impact on Trump? And no number of establishment endorsements seems to have any helpful effect on Rubio's results (or maybe it has, but the original results would have been even worse).

Lindsay Graham, who hates Cruz, is now saying they may have to rally around Cruz as the only way to stop Trump. So the Cruz votes may be at least in part anti-Trump votes rather than pro-Cruz votes. That doesn't bode well for the general election, if Cruz wins the nomination, since the voters won't be passionate about voting for Cruz?

:popcorn2:
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Delegate count on Fivethirtyeight.com:

—UPDATED 9:15 AM EST | MAR 6, 2016
RepublicansDemocrats
CURRENT
FIVETHIRTYEIGHT TARGETS
1,237 NEEDED
FOR NOMINATION
TRUMP
107%
of target
391 delegates won
CRUZ
67%
of target
304 delegates won
RUBIO
42%
of target
125 delegates won
 
who cares what lyndsay graham thinks

this is actually good news, because cruz can't win the election.
 
Ted Cruz is definitely the best choice for the GOP!!! They need to get Kaisch and Rubio out and rally around Cruz.
 
cruz is a great choice if you're an evangelical minority.
 
I posted this in the wrong forum and don't know how to delete. I then posted it in 2016 Presidential Election forum, where it belongs. Sorry!
 
Militant_Vegan_ said:
who cares what lyndsay graham thinks

this is actually good news, because cruz can't win the election.
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I think Graham is voicing what the GOP establishment is now thinking and planning on doing. I agree.....Cruz can't win the general election.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Yes...yes, yes!
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I have to say that the GOP has done the work for us. Out of all the candidates, they have chosen the TWO who are the ones most likely to easily hand us Democrats the election. Congratulations GOP...and thank you!
 
KevinKohler said:
Exactly. If the GOP is THAT stupid, then I guess this will be their last hurrah. Because a Cruz nomination WILL mean a Clinton presidency.
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I agree. The GOP feels so strongly that they'd rather lose the election than win with Trump. And lose they will, if the nominate Cruz. Cruz will win the Tea Party states, but not much else.
 
JumpinJack said:
DELEGATE COUNT (it differs slightly depending on the source)

REPUBLICAN (total delegates 2472; 1237 needed to win)

Trump 385 (or 392)
Cruz 298 (or 305)
Rubio 126

DEMOCRATIC (total delegates 4762)

Clinton 1131 (or 1092)
Sanders 479 (or 480)


Cruz is gaining. Rubio is toast. Looks like the Romney attack may have had some impact on Trump? And no number of establishment endorsements seems to have any helpful effect on Rubio's results (or maybe it has, but the original results would have been even worse).

Lindsay Graham, who hates Cruz, is now saying they may have to rally around Cruz as the only way to stop Trump. So the Cruz votes may be at least in part anti-Trump votes rather than pro-Cruz votes. That doesn't bode well for the general election, if Cruz wins the nomination, since the voters won't be passionate about voting for Cruz?

:popcorn2:
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I disagree with the last part. If Cruz wins the nomination, he will easily beat Hillary. The republican turn out in the primaries is breaking records while the democrat turnout is down by at least 30%. Hillary is not a likeable candidate.
 
disneydude said:
I have to say that the GOP has done the work for us. Out of all the candidates, they have chosen the TWO who are the ones most likely to easily hand us Democrats the election. Congratulations GOP...and thank you!
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As an independent, I see Trump and Kasich as being the only two Republican candidates who might beat Hillary, despite polls to the contrary. Trump having more of a chance, even though Kasich would be a much better President. The GOP underestimates passion for a candidate, IMO. Trump supporters like him for reasons having nothing to do with specific plans; they like him for leadership qualities and plain, strong speaking, without being obstructionist. Not too different from the reasons people liked Reagan.
 
ObamacareFail said:
I disagree with the last part. If Cruz wins the nomination, he will easily beat Hillary. The republican turn out in the primaries is breaking records while the democrat turnout is down by at least 30%. Hillary is not a likeable candidate.
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no way. Romney couldn't even beat Obama . The days of bitter old white guys deciding the president are long gone.
 
JumpinJack said:
As an independent, I see Trump and Kasich as being the only two Republican candidates who might beat Hillary, despite polls to the contrary. Trump having more of a chance, even though Kasich would be a much better President. The GOP underestimates passion for a candidate, IMO. Trump supporters like him for reasons having nothing to do with specific plans; they like him for leadership qualities and plain, strong speaking, without being obstructionist. Not too different from the reasons people liked Reagan.
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I think Kasich is probably the ONE candidate who could win the GE for the Republicans. Trump, although unlikely could possibly do it. The rest that had ANY chance at all (Rubio, Bush, Walker) have all been taken out. I would LOVE to see Cruz gain momentum now and get the nomination. That would be hilarious if it were to happen!
 
disneydude said:
I have to say that the GOP has done the work for us. Out of all the candidates, they have chosen the TWO who are the ones most likely to easily hand us Democrats the election. Congratulations GOP...and thank you!
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yep. Rubio could have been trouble
 
Militant_Vegan_ said:
yep. Rubio could have been trouble
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Only because he has a pretty face and people bought into the lie that he is more "moderate" than the rest. Rubio was dangerous because he was a wolf in sheep's clothing.....just as wacko as Cruz, but a more attractive package to the general electorate.
 
disneydude said:
Only because he has a pretty face and people bought into the lie that he is more "moderate" than the rest. Rubio was dangerous because he was a wolf in sheep's clothing.....just as wacko as Cruz, but a more attractive package to the general electorate.
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that's all it takes. and he has a real personality where Romney didn't.
 
Militant_Vegan_ said:
that's all it takes. and he has a real personality where Romney didn't.
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That's why I'm happy that he's as good as dead. His last shot hopes are on Florida and he is getting trounced there. If he were smart, he would drop out now and wait til 2020. A bad loss in Florida could be damaging to his future aspirations.
 
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