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Definition of an assault weapon

It just surprises me how incredibly stupid some people are about things they don't even bother to learn simple terminology. And they want to be taken seriously when they talk about assault weapons.

Those posting here can be forgiven in their ignorance, but I refuse to forgive those attempting to write gun laws who have no idea about the technical aspects of firearms.
It would be like me trying to make laws governing medical equipment. I would have no idea what i am talking about and those that do would be rolling their eyes at my every word.
So I can forgive the well meaning emotionalism posters have about guns, but when they try and get technical they just make fools of themselves.

To further confuse a few, i tell them I can place about twenty (20) empty AR-15 clips is just one hip pocket.
When i do, they see how much they really do not know about the subject.
20 empty ten round AR-15 STRIPPER CLIPS will indeed fit into a hip pocket.
Maybe with a little room left over for the spoon (clip guide).

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Those posting here can be forgiven in their ignorance, but I refuse to forgive those attempting to write gun laws who have no idea about the technical aspects of firearms.
It would be like me trying to make laws governing medical equipment. I would have no idea what i am talking about and those that do would be rolling their eyes at my every word.
So I can forgive the well meaning emotionalism posters have about guns, but when they try and get technical they just make fools of themselves.

To further confuse a few, i tell them I can place about twenty (20) empty AR-15 clips is just one hip pocket.
When i do, they see how much they really do not know about the subject.
20 empty ten round AR-15 STRIPPER CLIPS will indeed fit into a hip pocket.
Maybe with a little room left over for the spoon (clip guide).

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Yes...there is a difference....I even have a box of 1000 clips on my desk.

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Those posting here can be forgiven in their ignorance, but I refuse to forgive those attempting to write gun laws who have no idea about the technical aspects of firearms.
It would be like me trying to make laws governing medical equipment. I would have no idea what i am talking about and those that do would be rolling their eyes at my every word.
So I can forgive the well meaning emotionalism posters have about guns, but when they try and get technical they just make fools of themselves.

To further confuse a few, i tell them I can place about twenty (20) empty AR-15 clips is just one hip pocket.
When i do, they see how much they really do not know about the subject.
20 empty ten round AR-15 STRIPPER CLIPS will indeed fit into a hip pocket.
Maybe with a little room left over for the spoon (clip guide).

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I still don't think legislators give half of s*** about this. That's why the assault weapons ban back in 94 didn't really ban anything. These people have the money to hire somebody to give them specifics but they choose not to it wouldn't even cost that much.

But they don't bother somebody somewhere else was talking about the banana clip. I fought the urge to ask him why he can't finish your banana it needs to clip the peel closed it was hard but I resisted.
 
I agree that these definitions are confusing and don't help, which is why I advocate that each bullet costs two hundred dollars. At that point, whether something is defined as an assault rifle, automatic, semi-automatic, or plasma phase rifle with a laser scope doesn't matter.

People will just make the bullets.
 
It just surprises me how incredibly stupid some people are about things they don't even bother to learn simple terminology. And they want to be taken seriously when they talk about assault weapons.

I don't have the vocabulary to describe just how little I care about the proper terminology that's used for your stupid child killing hobby.
 
I don't have the vocabulary to describe just how little I care about the proper terminology that's used for your stupid child killing hobby.

I don't think you give half of s*** about children especially the ones that died in Florida.

The day it happens you start squawking about gun control and think that anyone that owns a gun kills children or at least that's what you accused me of.

Perhaps if you weren't so disingenuous an ignorant people would pay the slightest amount of attention to you. But no victims of this shooting are to be offered up on the altar of your political agenda.

Utterly despicable.
 
I don't think you give half of s*** about children especially the ones that died in Florida.

The day it happens you start squawking about gun control and think that anyone that owns a gun kills children or at least that's what you accused me of.

Perhaps if you weren't so disingenuous an ignorant people would pay the slightest amount of attention to you. But no victims of this shooting are to be offered up on the altar of your political agenda.

Utterly despicable.

Do you have evidence for the claim that I'm disingenuous and ignorant (aside from confusing a "clip" for a "magazine," which nobody ****ing cares about anyway), or was that post just a cathartic way to vent your frustration?
 
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Well yeah it's already against the law to commit murder so laws don't work with regards to people that do that anyway.

And it isn't Criminal to make bullets.

If a law is passed regulating bullets so they cost a minimum of $1600 each and you make and sell bullets on the black market for $100 each, you're officially a criminal. That's generally how law works. If what you're doing is legal then you're not a criminal. If what you're doing is illegal then you're a criminal. :prof
 
Do you have evidence for the claim that I'm disingenuous and ignorant,
yes. You said you didn't want to learn about something and you told me my hobby was child killing.

But that doesn't really matter. Argumentatively you haven't made a point except for that you want to remain ignorant.

or was that post just a cathartic way to vent your frustration?
No it was more about me shaking my head in disappointment that a human can be so blind and immature.

No wonder this control never happens. First politicians only talk about it and never do s*** about it. And you are a laughing stock.
 
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If a law is passed regulating bullets so they cost a minimum of $1600 each and you make and sell bullets on the black market for $100 each, you're officially a criminal.
but not if you give them away. Or make them for yourself.

Who f****** cares. I thought this was an effort to reduce killing not criminalize everyone you don't like.

Perhaps that is the real goal.

That's generally how law works. If what you're doing is legal then you're not a criminal. If what you're doing is illegal then you're a criminal. :prof
you were babbling about selling them I said to making them.

So we're getting this isn't about saving lives I suspected it ever was.
 
but not if you give them away. Or make them for yourself.

Who f****** cares. I thought this was an effort to reduce killing not criminalize everyone you don't like.

Perhaps that is the real goal.

you were babbling about selling them I said to making them.

So we're getting this isn't about saving lives I suspected it ever was.

Okay, so make and give away the ammo if that's what you want to do. Since my intended goal was to reduce the death toll, then my solution would be a good first step. If it doesn't reduce the problem to at least to terrorist-death levels, then additional measures can be considered.

I'm sorry you get emotional that your hobby is regularly paired with imagery of dead children. My hobbies aren't typically responsible for an average of 9000 murders a year, so I can't really relate to how you must deal with that.
 
Okay, so make and give away the ammo if that's what you want to do. Since my intended goal was to reduce the death toll,
I'm sorry I don't think your goal is to reduce the death toll that has nothing to do with that. I think your goal is to criminalize usage of a firearm.

then my solution would be a good first step.
I don't think it would. It makes for a funny joke. But they could just make them or buy them on the black market. It isn't that hard.

If it doesn't reduce the problem to at least to terrorist-death levels, then additional measures can be considered.
I think we should get our ideas from well thought-out reasonable consideration not comedy routines.

I'm sorry you get emotional that your hobby is regularly paired with imagery of dead children.
I wouldn't say dishonesty makes me emotional just that it's dishonesty.

A gun enthusiast hobby is paired with hunting and self-defense and target shooting.



My hobbies aren't typically responsible for an average of 9000 murders a year, so I can't really relate to how you must deal with that.
neither is a gun enthusiast's Hobby. In such a person with no they're not responsible for that so there's nothing to deal with further if it happened around them they would be able to do something.
 
I'm sorry I don't think your goal is to reduce the death toll that has nothing to do with that. I think your goal is to criminalize usage of a firearm.

I don't think it would. It makes for a funny joke. But they could just make them or buy them on the black market. It isn't that hard.

If something is illegal, it is more difficult to access it. Most people prefer to avoid having to deal with criminal means to acquiring black market goods. Dealing with criminals sucks, the quality of the goods is touch-and-go, and there is of course the risk of arrest. Therefore it would reduce the amount of available bullets in the country, and therefore reduce the number of killings. The only question is, by how much? We would have to see. As I said, if it didn't reduce killings to at least terrorism-death levels, additional measures could be considered.

I think we should get our ideas from well thought-out reasonable consideration not comedy routines.

It was certainly inspired by a comedy routine, but it's a solid idea nonetheless. Not once has anybody been able to refute it. The only direct rebuttal I've gotten so far ("people will just get the bullets on the black market") doesn't even address my argument because I never claimed it would be an all-encompassing solution in the first place, only that it was one measure that could be implemented to bring the killings down.

I wouldn't say dishonesty makes me emotional just that it's dishonesty.

A gun enthusiast hobby is paired with hunting and self-defense and target shooting.

And dead children. Lots and lots of dead children.

neither is a gun enthusiast's Hobby. In such a person with no they're not responsible for that so there's nothing to deal with further if it happened around them they would be able to do something.
 
I'm sorry I don't think your goal is to reduce the death toll that has nothing to do with that. I think your goal is to criminalize usage of a firearm.

By the way, I forgot to correct this claim. My idea wasn't to criminalize usage of a firearm, but to regulate the price of ammo at $1600 a bullet. You would still be able to purchase ammo legally at any store that carries it.
 
Sometimes I think we should regulate the cost of internet access at 50,000 dollars a month.
 
If something is illegal, it is more difficult to access it.
So the prohibition of alcohol in the 20s was a fantastic success? The prohibition of drugs currently phenomenal success right.

I'm sorry I disagree All prohibition does is create a black market and organized crime.

Most people prefer to avoid having to deal with criminal means to acquiring black market goods. Dealing with criminals sucks, the quality of the goods is touch-and-go, and there is of course the risk of arrest.
but if you make something illegal that I have the right to own I'm not dealing with criminals I'm dealing with freedom Fighters. That will be Touch and Go but it's worth it.

Therefore it would reduce the amount of available bullets in the country, and therefore reduce the number of killings.
no it wouldn't because it's only criminals that murder people they don't care about the law anyway.

Like I said murder is already illegal. And the the fact you continuously Dodge is that I can make my own bullets it's not that hard.

The only question is, by how much? We would have to see.
only if you're myopic the real question is what do we do if people make their own.

Did you know that people can do that did you know it's very simple there's literature books vast amounts of knowledge out there for it. Supplies are dirt cheap equipment is dirt cheap.

As I said, if it didn't reduce killings to at least terrorism-death levels, additional measures could be considered.
well it wouldn't do anything so what are these other measures?



It was certainly inspired by a comedy routine, but it's a solid idea nonetheless. Not once has anybody been able to refute it.
no it's a joke because it's ridiculous that's why it's funny it's called absurdist humor.

I have refuted it you just refuse to acknowledge it people can make their own bullets I do. Do you know why I do because it's cheaper so that's already the motivation.

[QUOTEPThe only direct rebuttal I've gotten so far ("people will just get the bullets on the black market")[/QUOTE] that's a bold-faced lie the rebuttal you got for me is that people would make their own.

doesn't even address my argument because I never claimed it would be an all-encompassing solution in the first place, only that it was one measure that could be implemented to bring the killings down.
well it's a comedy routine it's a particular type of humor called absurdist humor because it's absurd that's what makes it funny absurd things aren't practical.



And dead children. Lots and lots of dead children.
actually the opposite is true if there had been an armed person at the school and they delivered a fatal shot to the Killer there would be no dead children.

Do you know how many crimes are prevented by guns how many killings could potentially be prevented by guns?

We'll just FYI there's this thing humans do it's called War and the idea of that is to stop people from invading your country and killing you. This is done mostly by guns. The concept translates to any other situation where someone is going to shoot you.
 
By the way, I forgot to correct this claim. My idea wasn't to criminalize usage of a firearm, but to regulate the price of ammo at $1600 a bullet. You would still be able to purchase ammo legally at any store that carries it.

Yeah it was funny when Chris Rock said it. It's just pathetic that you think absurdist humor is good policy.
 
Yeah it was funny when Chris Rock said it. It's just pathetic that you think absurdist humor is good policy.

And yet you can't refute it. You can only respond to it with a combination of straw men (I never claimed it would eliminate all killings), the Nirvana Fallacy, reductio ad absurdum, non-sequiturs and attacking the source. But what you are unable to do is refute the actual argument being made directly.
 
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Sometimes I think we should regulate the cost of internet access at 50,000 dollars a month.

Personally I'm glad people who are completely ignorant on the subjects they talk about imprisoned absurdist humor as legitimate forms of law all rounds to show the world how ignorant they really are.

It shows me what I'm up against. I'm up against a joke literally a joke. That shows me that I'm right and that people are emotionally attached to bad ideas even if they're funny jokes.
 
People can make their own bullets. It's refuted.

So what if people make their own bullets? I honestly have no idea why you think that's a meaningful rebuttal.
 
Why do you take joy in the death of children?

See? I can ask stupid, hyperbolic questions too.

Why do you take joy in the deaths of those left defenseless against criminals?

As can others........
 
Why do you take joy in the deaths of those left defenseless against criminals?

As can others........

Uh, I was satirizing a stupid, hyperbolic question. So all you were doing was satirizing a satire of a stupid, hyperbolic question.
 
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