Defensive gun use thread

[RF667799]

Yeah, another win for the childish types.
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Cartoons. You got cartoons. And magical incantations.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Yeah, another win for the childish types.
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Average 911 response time: 3+ minutes
Average time to draw my 1911: 1.5 seconds

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[Maidenrules29]

Average 911 response time: 3+ minutes
Average time to draw my 1911: 1.5 seconds

Average Police Response Times In The U.S. By City, State, & Crime

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Is it the cops or the coroner's assistants who draw the chalk outline around your body?........

 

[JMB1911A1]

Elderly Woman Fatally Shoots Home Invader

The elderly homeowner, whose identity has been withheld pending further review, was reportedly injured during the altercation but managed to protect herself effectively.

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Our resident anti-civil right gun control proponents would have this woman call 911 and hope that she doesn’t get killed or grievously injured in the time it takes police to arrive.

Gun control is pro-criminal.

 

[quip]

If NRA folks weren't being dishonest they would have no argument. See how easy it is to push false narratives?

Your assertion noted.

 

[quip]

Not mentioned specifically, but they absolutely are most of the equation. Your snippet solely uses "individuals in possesion of a gun" for the metric. Law-abiding concealed carriers don't suddenly start visiting high-crime areas or go looking for trouble, so they are way less likely to fall into those statistics.

Your assumption noted.
Gangsters aren't allowed to defend themselves? Seems you're being hypocritical.

 

[quip]

So, is this your approach? Begging for your life?

Needs more context. Under specific circumstances ummm yes.

Is that perhaps your own gun being pointed at you?

I'd say a keen awareness of your surroundings is more important to your safety than a shoot out with a criminal. What say you?

 

[JMB1911A1]

Needs more context. Under specific circumstances ummm yes.

Is that perhaps your own gun being pointed at you?

I'd say a keen awareness of your surroundings is more important to your safety than a shoot out with a criminal. What say you?

How many people walk about in Condition White with their face buried in a cell phone?

Minimum should be Condition Yellow. Orange or Red if in certain parts of town.

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My question for you is why you would deprive yourself of choices by voluntarily limiting your ability to defend yourself or your family?

 

[poppopfox]

How many people walk about in Condition White with their face buried in a cell phone?

Minimum should be Condition Yellow. Orange or Red if in certain parts of town.

Cooper Color Code - The 4 Stages of Combat Mindset Readiness

The Cooper Color Code is timeless. It's a set of 4 progressing stages of combat mindset readiness. White, Yellow, Orange, and Red.

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My question for you is why you would deprive yourself of choices by voluntarily limiting your ability to defend yourself or your family?

My question for you - How much combat experience do you have? Seems you're buying into a bunch of wannabe carrying propaganda put out by the gun lobbying crowd. Never heard any of those terms used n the military, let alone in 'Nam.

 

[Maidenrules29]

Gangsters aren't allowed to defend themselves?

They can defend themselves all they want. But if they are prohibited persons they can't do it with a firearm. Not legally, at least. But of course they carry illegally anyway, which puts the law abiding at risk. That's why we carry.

 

[quip]

How many people walk about in Condition White with their face buried in a cell phone?

How many people walk around in Condition Orange, actively seeking a Red Condition?

Minimum should be Condition Yellow. Orange or Red if in certain parts of town.

Cooper Color Code - The 4 Stages of Combat Mindset Readiness

The Cooper Color Code is timeless. It's a set of 4 progressing stages of combat mindset readiness. White, Yellow, Orange, and Red.

modernsurvivalblog.com

My question for you is why you would deprive yourself of choices by voluntarily limiting your ability to defend yourself or your family?

I don't. At the point of Condition Orange, I'm smart enough to allow my feet to bring the condition back to Yellow/White.

My questions to you: Are you one of those combative individuals that actively toe the line between Orange and Red?

Wouldn't you and your family be safer by removing yourselves from an "Orange" situation, relying on your gun as a last ditch effort?

 

[poppopfox]

They can defend themselves all they want. But if they are prohibited persons they can't do it with a firearm. Not legally, at least. But of course they carry illegally anyway, which puts the law abiding at risk. That's why we carry.

You always abide by the speed limit laws, never go through a yellow turning to red, passing on the right 'cause someone's making a left hand turn and you can't be bothered to wait? Law abiding my little Buddhist ass. You carry cause you're scared my friend, and you've bought into the propaganda the gun lobby puts out. Own it and you'll be better off as a human being.

 

[RF667799]

My question for you - How much combat experience do you have? Seems you're buying into a bunch of wannabe carrying propaganda put out by the gun lobbying crowd. Never heard any of those terms used n the military, let alone in 'Nam.

Maybe your military experience over 50 years ago was more focused on shutter speeds and apertures.

 

[RF667799]

You always abide by the speed limit laws, never go through a yellow turning to red, passing on the right 'cause someone's making a left hand turn and you can't be bothered to wait? Law abiding my little Buddhist ass. You carry cause you're scared my friend, and you've bought into the propaganda the gun lobby puts out. Own it and you'll be better off as a human being.

Because disobeying a traffic law is exactly the same as assaulting someone with intent of great bodily injury.

Buddha says: When losing an argument badly, define terms into being meaningless.

Good job. Within your rationale, there are no longer such things as law abiding citizens.

 

[Maidenrules29]

You always abide by the speed limit laws, never go through a yellow turning to red, passing on the right 'cause someone's making a left hand turn and you can't be bothered to wait? Law abiding my little Buddhist ass. You carry cause you're scared my friend, and you've bought into the propaganda the gun lobby puts out. Own it and you'll be better off as a human being.

 

[JMB1911A1]

How many people walk around in Condition Orange, actively seeking a Red Condition?

I don't. At the point of Condition Orange, I'm smart enough to allow my feet to bring the condition back to Yellow/White.

My questions to you: Are you one of those combative individuals that actively toe the line between Orange and Red?

Wouldn't you and your family be safer by removing yourselves from an "Orange" situation, relying on your gun as a last ditch effort?

Absolutely. The first rule of carrying is deescalation. Unfortunately, sometimes violent criminals aren’t willing to let you deescalate.

 

[JMB1911A1]

My question for you - How much combat experience do you have? Seems you're buying into a bunch of wannabe carrying propaganda put out by the gun lobbying crowd. Never heard any of those terms used n the military, let alone in 'Nam.

Those terms aren’t military. They are just a way to denote awareness of your surroundings.

And to your first question. Much more than one year in country. When you do a 20 year career during the GWOT, you tend to deploy more than once.

 

[poppopfox]

Those terms aren’t military. They are just a way to denote awareness of your surroundings.

Right, so, in other words, just made up bs terminology.

And to your first question. Much more than one year in country. When you do a 20 year career during the GWOT, you tend to deploy more than once.

"In country" doesn't answer my question. There were lots of support personnel who were never in combat, no matter how many years they served or were deployed. In fact, iIrc the ratio was something like 10 to one, support personnel to grunts.

 

[RF667799]

Right, so, in other words, just made up bs terminology.

Military terminology is "made up" too. It wasn't handed down from the immortal Buddha.

"In country" doesn't answer my question. There were lots of support personnel who were never in combat, no matter how many years they served or were deployed. In fact, iIrc the ratio was something like 10 to one, support personnel to grunts.

I wonder what the ratio of Air Force photographers to essential support personnel is...?

 

[notquiteright]

Elderly Woman Fatally Shoots Home Invader

The elderly homeowner, whose identity has been withheld pending further review, was reportedly injured during the altercation but managed to protect herself effectively.

www.ammoland.com

Our resident anti-civil right gun control proponents would have this woman call 911 and hope that she doesn’t get killed or grievously injured in the time it takes police to arrive.

Gun control is pro-criminal.

The problem with your rhetoric is the nation has become quite permissive in carry laws and firearm ownership, but firearm violence doesn't seem to have abated much. Based on the number of firearms in private hands the woman should literally have a pistol in each hand and an AR in the closet.

Perhaps if 'this woman' had and ADT sign in her front yard, on her door and a rather husky member of the canine family protesting any knock on the door she wouldn't need to have a firearm in the house her children or one of their friends could play with or take to school....

FYI, I carried the 1911a1 when a M60 gunner, admire a well maintained one, friend has a Kimber. However, I prefer my XD45 double stack...

 

[Maidenrules29]

This is simply an amazing story. This lady and her disabled son would probably have been executed had she not had a gun. Even NBC carried the story for God's sake.

Idaho woman, 85, fatally shot home intruder in 'heroic' act of self-defense

A county prosecutor said the woman acted in self-defense and ruled it was a case of justifiable homicide in a case review.

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[Bum]

Police: Man breaks into Reading building, shot after attacking 2 occupants

Reading Police said a man was shot and now faces charges after he attacked two people in the city on Thursday night.

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Concealed carry holder fatally shoots robber during exchange of gunfire in Auburn Gresham

The alleged robber tried to rob a 60-year-old licensed gun owner, who drew his gun about 5:30 a.m. The two exchanged gunfire and both men were shot, the alleged robber fatally.

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Man fatally shot while allegedly trying to break into a car near UTSA, SAPD says

It happened at an apartment complex less than two minutes from the UTSA campus.

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Man, 53, fatally shot on CTA bus after brandishing knife on West Side

A 53-year-old man was fatally wounded Tuesday night on a CTA bus after he pulled out a knife and approached another rider, Chicago police said. Shortly after 11 p.m., police responded to a person s…

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Authorities release name of suspect who was fatally shot during home invasion near Blackfoot

A home invasion turned deadly for the intruder on Wednesday north of Blackfoot, authorities said.

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Charlotte boy shoots hotel intruder while defending pregnant mother, police say

An investigation is underway after a pregnant woman was assaulted and hospitalized overnight following an incident at a west Charlotte hotel.

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Man dead, another injured after attempted robbery, shooting in Akron

A 19-year-old is dead and another man is injured after an attempted robbery and shooting on Thursday afternoon.

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Man shot after forcing entry into Orange County home, deputies say

A man was shot Saturday night after allegedly forcing entry into a home near Baldwin Park, according to the Orange County Sheriff’s Office.

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West Michigan man shot by homeowner during attempted break-in

A West Michigan man died while attempting to break into a house early Monday.

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JPD: Suspect shot, killed after trying to stab convenience store employee

JACKSON, Miss. (WJTV) – Jackson police said a suspect has died after a shooting at a Jackson convenience store. The incident happened on the Road of Remembrance on Friday, March 22. Detective…

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Grandmother shoots man who allegedly broke into her home while fleeing police

Albuquerque police say a woman trying to protect her 4-year-old grandchild shot an auto theft suspect who twice broke into her home demanding car keys Friday night in the North

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Man critically injured in Wayne County shooting

Kentucky State Police say it happened around 2 a.m. on Frisby Street in Monticello.

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Burglary suspect shot by victim, Fort Worth police say

Fort Worth police said a car burglary suspect was critically injured after being shot by one of the people in the vehicle early Sunday morning.

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Gunfire Breaks Out After Trio Break Into Harrison Home; 1 Intruder Killed

NYPD: Machete-wielding man shot after car crash on Staten Island

The victim was shot after a minor car crash on Vineland Avenue.

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McPherson Resident Shoots Intruder

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Man fatally shot after forcing entry into east-side home, police say

The man who fired the shots is not considered a suspect at this time, according to police.

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Police: Suspect shot during attempted robbery at Lincolnton gas station

Police said a suspect was shot during attempted robbery at a Lincolnton gas station.

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Naked man breaks through apartment wall in St. Louis, threatens family, is shot

The shooting of a man who allegedly broke through an apartment wall while naked and threatened to kill a man and his family will be investigated as an act of self-defense, police said.

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Man charged after ex-girlfriend shot him in self-defense in St. Louis, police say

Police said Martez Hopgood has a history of domestic violence arrests and had threatened the woman in the past.

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Reported Shooting Incident at Krogers

UPDATE:Two Kroger customers are being charged with battery after a disagreement led to a shooting inside the grocery store on Wednesday evening.According to a r

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Homeowner Shoots at Would-Be Burglars in Van Nuys - MyNewsLA.com

A homeowner foiled an attempted burglary Tuesday evening when he fired a shot at the intruders at a residence in Van Nuys. Los Angeles Police Department officers responded to a home in the 14000 block of Calvert Street, near Hazeltine Avenue, at approximately 9:45 p.m. regarding reports of a...

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Police: North Bend man breaks into Coos Bay home armed with golf club

A North Bend man was shot early Friday morning after he broke into a Coos Bay home armed with a golf club, according to Coos Bay Police.Around 12:55 a.m., April

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Burglar shot dead by Mobile apartment resident; accomplice faces charges, police say

Police are classifying the event as a "self-defense incident."

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Pittsburgh-area woman shoots and kills home intruder: police

A Beaver County woman shot and killed a man who broke into her home, police said.

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A Newport Beach resident opened fire on robbers, wounding one while the other shot himself - New Santa Ana

The Newport Beach Police Department (NBPD) is investigating a home invasion robbery that occurred in the early morning of April 16 in the Newport Coast neighborhood. The incident is contained and there are currently no threats to the community. The crime appears to be a targeted incident...

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Stay safe and unvictimized folks....have a great weekend.

 

[Bum]

Where are you collaborationists? You who would choose to kneel before criminals and give up your rights in favor of the lowest scum on the planet.

 

[Daddyo]

Where are you collaborationists? You who would choose to kneel before criminals and give up your rights in favor of the lowest scum on the planet.

They are busy putting up yard signs for the hair sniffer in chief, creepy Joe.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Another good news story.

Nashville Homeowner Shoots Armed Intruder Breaking into His House - The Truth About Guns

&#9664Previous Post Next Post Coming Soon...▶ A Nashville homeowner shot a man who allegedly attempted to break into his house early Saturday morning, with police deeming the act self-defense, according to local authorities. The incident occurred in the Trinity Hills neighborhood just before 6...

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