Defending Yourself In Your Home: Is it right?

[TurtleDude]

So you think its ok to kill for a tv too. I don't think most agree with you.

I guess you haven't figured out that I am not a sheep. I couldn't care less what is popular. You can flock with the turkeys and the pigeons, I hunt with the eagles

 

[Chiefgator]

Other than Me, has anyone else who is posting on this thread ever shot someone in self defense (not military operations)

Until you go through that you have no frigging clue what its all about

I have. I posted about it earlier in this thread. And you are 100% correct. Until you are in the situation, you can only speculate. Some I'd these John Wayne / Rambo answers sorta make me laugh. But I shot that man 33 years ago... I have heard all that false bravado for many years and I have learned to just move on and let them talk.

 

[kenvin]

I guess you haven't figured out that I am not a sheep. I couldn't care less what is popular. You can flock with the turkeys and the pigeons, I hunt with the eagles

You hate felons and love cliches.

 

[TurtleDude]

You hate felons and love cliches.

You love felons and hate logic

shall we continue?

 

[Risky Thicket]

Kev, it seems to me that what you are missing regarding the brick and/or the television is that you as the occupier of the residence have no idea what person's motives are. In fact, Kev, I'd be willing to bet you that the person who breaks into your house just to steal a television is probably not clear on his motives once he discovers the house occupied. We are not talking about rational criminal acts in most cases.

You break into a house to rob it, though you may not break in with the idea of assaulting or killing someone. However, the guy breaking into the house generally doesn't know the exact conditions he will find or the situations he will encounter once he is inside. How can YOU know his intent? The bad guy more than likely didn't intend to break into your house to face a homeowner or what's more, an armed homeowner.

If a guy breaks in your house and doesn't give a rat's butt whether someone is inside or not, you can be assured he isn't there just to get your television.

Either way, Kevin, the bad guy's intent is unknown. Maybe he gets inside changes his mind, decides to drink all you liquor, pet your wife, rape your Pekinese and THEN steal your television or worse.

As for the brick/rock through the window, it's reasonable to say that that doesn't happen by mistake very often. Why would someone not feel threatened if it happened. Now, am I going to shoot some rat bagger who throws a brick through my window? Probably not right off, but I can assure you that if his hand so much as reaches in he will not leave walking.

 

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

Other than Me, has anyone else who is posting on this thread ever shot someone in self defense (not military operations)

Until you go through that you have no frigging clue what its all about

I shot and killed a man raping me many years ago. He lost control of his weapon as he got to his happy place. He had already told me he planned to kill me. Regardless of how necessary taking someone's life is, it leaves deep and lasting scars.

I see a lot of swaggering about how big and bad people are in this thread. Having to shot someone isn't a matter of bravado - it should only be a matter of necessity.

 

[TurtleDude]

I shot and killed a man raping me many years ago. He lost control of his weapon as he got to his happy place. He had already told me he planned to kill me. Regardless of how necessary taking someone's life is, it leaves deep and lasting scars.

I see a lot of swaggering about how big and bad people are in this thread. Having to shot someone isn't a matter of bravado - it should only be a matter of necessity.

excellent post. I didn't sleep for two days-Didnt know my nose had been busted until the DA interviewing me at 1 AM in the morning told someone to get the paramedics to look at me-

 

[DiAnna]

I shot and killed a man raping me many years ago. He lost control of his weapon as he got to his happy place. He had already told me he planned to kill me. Regardless of how necessary taking someone's life is, it leaves deep and lasting scars.

I see a lot of swaggering about how big and bad people are in this thread. Having to shot someone isn't a matter of bravado - it should only be a matter of necessity.

I'm so very sorry that happened to you. It took courage for you to fight for your life. I'm grateful that you won. *hugs*

 

[jimbo]

Good Lord!! Here's your scenerio...a large rock is thrown through your patio door window.

Before you make any decision, you're going to ask:

"Who are you?"
"Why did you do that?"
"Do you have a gun?"
"How old are you?"
"Oh, and are you male or female?"

By the time you got "Who" out of your mouth, you'd be dead. Lordy-Lordy.

You are missing a couple. You forgot that after you asked to see the ID, then you are supposed to conduct a drug test, check to see if the person is not just a homeless person looking for a place to spend the night, a psyche test to make sure you are not shooting a crazy person. There are probably others. And you will most probably have to this in the dark, as that is the most common time for B & E.

It takes an average young male around 1 second to cover 20 feet, more than average size of a room. Estimated time to perform KV's test, at least 15 minutes. Thus, the reason for the castle doctrine.

 

[X Factor]

I shot and killed a man raping me many years ago. He lost control of his weapon as he got to his happy place. He had already told me he planned to kill me. Regardless of how necessary taking someone's life is, it leaves deep and lasting scars.

I see a lot of swaggering about how big and bad people are in this thread. Having to shot someone isn't a matter of bravado - it should only be a matter of necessity.

I haven't ever been put in a position like this, so I won't pretend I know what it's like. I'll just say that I'm sorry you had to go through that.

 

[TurtleDude]

I haven't ever been put in a position like this, so I won't pretend I know what it's like. I'll just say that I'm sorry you had to go through that.

good point but I bet every woman within 200 miles of her isn't sorry she whacked the rapist. She performed public service.

 

[X Factor]

good point but I bet every woman within 200 miles of her isn't sorry she whacked the rapist. She performed public service.

Actually, I think she saved lives. In my opinion, that puke caused his his own death. It sucks, though, that good people have to be put in a position to deal with the aftermath of something like that.

 

[TurtleDude]

Actually, I think she saved lives. In my opinion, that puke caused his his own death. It sucks, though, that good people have to be put in a position to deal with the aftermath of something like that.

It was him or her-the righteous prevailed and the scumbag fed the worms. This needs to happen more-that's why I teach people how to shoot defensively along with other stuff. Its why I gave every woman I work with a COMTECH Stinger for Christmas.

 

[jimbo]

It isn't even close to 75% even in this thread. Much less real life.

Most people don't want to kill others.

I don't there are many here, particularly those with CCW and/or actual weapons that want to kill a human. Few soldiers do either. That is not the issue. The question is whether, given the choice of defending yourself and/or your loved ones, whether or not you would. The presumption that those who believe in personal protection are going around Rambo style with a pair of 6 guns and an AR 15, looking for a fight, is the stuff of anti gun ads.

 

[MaggieD]

It was him or her-the righteous prevailed and the scumbag fed the worms. This needs to happen more-that's why I teach people how to shoot defensively along with other stuff. Its why I gave every woman I work with a COMTECH Stinger for Christmas.

Turtle, I found a picture and brief description, but how does one use this? Is it legal? I'd imagine it is...

Tom drives a taxi. He can't carry a weapon. I wonder if this would be good for him...What'cha think?

 

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

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Turtle, I found a picture and brief description, but how does one use this? Is it legal? I'd imagine it is...

Tom drives a taxi. He can't carry a weapon. I wonder if this would be good for him...What'cha think?

Here is a description of how it can be used: Comtech Stinger II Video Review by Hooah1524 - YouTube

 

[Frolicking Dinosaurs]

Thanks for the kind words. The man's demise likely did save lives. He had raped and killed before. Even so, the incident still haunts me.

 

[Enola]

I wouldn't mind having one of those for my keychain. I don't have a permit to carry and don't have reason to get one. But...having one of those things would suffice if I happen to need to travel to an area that is not so great.

 

[Enola]

Thanks for the kind words. The man's demise likely did save lives. He had raped and killed before. Even so, the incident still haunts me.

(((((((((hugs))))))))))))

I'm glad to see you. I've missed you.

 

[blackjack50]

I wouldn't mind having one of those for my keychain. I don't have a permit to carry and don't have reason to get one. But...having one of those things would suffice if I happen to need to travel to an area that is not so great.

Of course you have a reason to get one. You are a US citizen who is law abiding right? That is good enough. My cousin got his, and never carries. He just wanted to be a statistic.

 

[Enola]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by him wanting to be a statistic?

 

[Aunt Spiker]

After all these pages: I still don't get why someone might think it's wrong for someone to be abl eto defend theirself in their home/on their property.

 

[TurtleDude]

I wouldn't mind having one of those for my keychain. I don't have a permit to carry and don't have reason to get one. But...having one of those things would suffice if I happen to need to travel to an area that is not so great.

several places sell them for about 10 bucks. PM me-if you need more information.

 

[Chiefgator]

Thanks for the kind words. The man's demise likely did save lives. He had raped and killed before. Even so, the incident still haunts me.

I feel for you. I was lucky. The man that I shot lived. (He later died in prison after a fight)
It was a life altering event for me, so it must have been even more so for you.

Last. Night I dreamed about it after having talked about it so much yesterday.

 

[blackjack50]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by him wanting to be a statistic?

A statistic of responsible gun ownership. The more people who have and responsibly carry/have/own concealed carry, the better we as a group look.