easyt65 said:Double-standard?
Deb Lefave did a MALE high school student and gets no time in jail, no probation (from what I hear).
I read another story where a male teached sleeps with a female high school student, and he has been sentenced to something like 15 years! :shock:
Where's the justice? Is Stautory Rape JUST for male Teacher-Female Student incidents?
I am not talking about how the male kid is a hero to his buddies, here guys! I am talking the U.S. legal system and the rules that are supposed to be in-placce to protect under-aged kids from sexual predators like this male teacher AND Deb Lafave!
Axismaster said:I say we just take the statuatory rape laws off the books. Sex is not government's business.
easyt65 said:Double-standard?
Deb Lefave did a MALE high school student and gets no time in jail, no probation (from what I hear).
I read another story where a male teached sleeps with a female high school student, and he has been sentenced to something like 15 years! :shock:
Where's the justice? Is Stautory Rape JUST for male Teacher-Female Student incidents?
I am not talking about how the male kid is a hero to his buddies, here guys! I am talking the U.S. legal system and the rules that are supposed to be in-placce to protect under-aged kids from sexual predators like this male teacher AND Deb Lafave!
Or a boy that grows up to treat sex as a predatory function like what was done to him...jfuh said:A teacher that is this hot, the only crime I see here that was commited was that the sex was not video tapped and uploaded onto the web.
XShipRider said:One would think the prosecutor could have proven the case without the
teenager's testimony, something which certainly would have been pursued
if the genders were reversed.
And what about her lifetime label of "sexual predator?" How about her lifetime registration as a sex offender?
As you said, reversing the genders would have had the feminists
frothing at the mouth to persecute and prosecute a man.
The double standard speaks for itself.
cnredd said:Or a boy that grows up to treat sex as a predatory function like what was done to him...
cnredd said:But I guess that part shouldn't be relevant, should it...:shrug:
Kandahar said:There's nothing wrong with having a double standard for this. If the intent of the law is to protect minors from being taken advantage of, it's silly to pretend that this is the same thing as a male teacher sleeping with a female student. I doubt that this kid will be scarred for life because he got to bang his teacher; I wish I had a ninth-grade teacher who looked like Deb Lafave "molest" me.
I agree with Axismaster for once; statutory rape laws should be judged on a case-by-case basis and should allow for plenty of discretion on the part of the judge and jury.
aps said:Also, I think it was Keith Olbermann who had a psychiatrist on his show on Friday who said that LaFave's behavior has nothing to do with bipolar disorder. In fact, he was appalled that she used that as an excuse.
Kandahar said:There's nothing wrong with having a double standard for this. If the intent of the law is to protect minors from being taken advantage of, it's silly to pretend that this is the same thing as a male teacher sleeping with a female student. I doubt that this kid will be scarred for life because he got to bang his teacher; I wish I had a ninth-grade teacher who looked like Deb Lafave "molest" me.
I agree with Axismaster for once; statutory rape laws should be judged on a case-by-case basis and should allow for plenty of discretion on the part of the judge and jury.
Femi-Nazis?jamesrage said:Some femi-nazis try to argue that females are mentally more mature than their male counter parts.
jamesrage said:I detest most shrinks.They try to blame every bad behavior on some mental disorder instead of personal choice.
jfuh said:Most behavioral problems are the results of mental disorder.
Blows a hole in your bad person because s/he makes evil decision claims huh?
No, I believe that because I've studied up about it. Why do you refer to psychologists in the degrading term of Shrink? Just to fit in with the rest of the lot because it's popular?jamesrage said:Do you beleave that because shrink told you that.People do things because of personal choice.The hot teacher had sex with the 14 year old becasue she wanted to have sex with that 14 year old.
talloulou said:I think there's something wrong with the double standard. First many female minors who have relationships with adult men feel they are in love while the world outside judges the relationship as an elder man taking advantage of a female minor. But if the minor female involved feels that the relationship is beneficial to her why should her feeling be less regarded than a young minor boys feeling that banging his hot teacher is great?
talloulou said:The law is set up to protect minors. In both instances there is an opportunity present for the adult to take advantage of the minor and that is why the law outlaws this behavior. Remember the female teacher who got pregnant by her student, repeatedly? An adult female can take advantage of a young minor male no matter how hot or not hot she is. Just as an adult male can get a minor female pregnant.
talloulou said:The law is set up to protect minors from situations where an adult places them in danger. These laws are not written on the basis or belief that minors are encapable of enjoying sex. Now some would argue all these laws should be done away with 'cause kids can as easily get in trouble having sex with other kids as they can with adults. Well I'd disagree. A mature adult has a mental and authoritarian advantage over minors that their peers simply don't have. Therefore it is easier for an adult to manipulate, control, and take advantage of a minor.
It is absolutely ridiculous to suggest a hot teacher should not be punished for banging a male student on the basis of she actually did him a favor. The same could be said in the reverse situations where the adult is male and the female is a minor. Some female minors will go out of their way to seduce an adult male. It is the adults job to not let that happen whether the adult is male or female.
talloulou said:To argue that a female minor who sleeps with her male teacher is different from a male minor sleeping with a female teacher is simply sexist. You're basically saying that girls don't like sex and boys do so it's not as bad for adults to take advantage of boys in a sexual way when the boy is willing yet minor girls giving their consent to sex should be ignored cause they can't possibly like sex as much and thus it's not good for them in the same way its good for a guy. What a bunch of BS.
jfuh said:No, I believe that because I've studied up about it. Why do you refer to psychologists in the degrading term of Shrink?
You beleave that bad behvaior/choices is based on some sort of mental disorder.Have I argued that her decision was not based on choice?
Have a source to show that most of them are quacks? If a murderer did not make the choice to kill then certainly he should not be held accountable.jamesrage said:Becasue most of them are quacks.Some scumbag murders innocent children and some rat shrink says that the scumbag has multiple personalities or suffers ffroms some other mental desease that somehow this changes whether or not the person is commited the cirme in the first place.
Did I state anywhere that mental disorders to be responsible for ALL misconducts?jamesrage said:You beleave that bad behvaior/choices is based on some sort of mental disorder.
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