talloulou said:
I think there's something wrong with the double standard. First many female minors who have relationships with adult men feel they are in love while the world outside judges the relationship as an elder man taking advantage of a female minor. But if the minor female involved feels that the relationship is beneficial to her why should her feeling be less regarded than a young minor boys feeling that banging his hot teacher is great?
It shouldn't, which is why I think judges and juries should be allowed plenty of discretion in statutory rape cases...for both genders.
I'm sure there are instances of an adult male having sex with a female minor, where the relationship is not harmful. I would detest a general "minimum punishment," because the actual circumstances of each case should be taken into consideration. If there is truly no harm being done, I don't think anyone should be prosecuted.
talloulou said:
The law is set up to protect minors. In both instances there is an opportunity present for the adult to take advantage of the minor and that is why the law outlaws this behavior. Remember the female teacher who got pregnant by her student, repeatedly? An adult female can take advantage of a young minor male no matter how hot or not hot she is. Just as an adult male can get a minor female pregnant.
Pregnancy is a different matter entirely, and I don't think is what happened in this case. I would agree that the adult bears the majority of responsibility for the child, since a minor is less capable of making an informed decision. However, pregnancy is an issue with any heterosexual relationship regardless of the ages of the participants.
talloulou said:
The law is set up to protect minors from situations where an adult places them in danger. These laws are not written on the basis or belief that minors are encapable of enjoying sex. Now some would argue all these laws should be done away with 'cause kids can as easily get in trouble having sex with other kids as they can with adults. Well I'd disagree. A mature adult has a mental and authoritarian advantage over minors that their peers simply don't have. Therefore it is easier for an adult to manipulate, control, and take advantage of a minor.
It is absolutely ridiculous to suggest a hot teacher should not be punished for banging a male student on the basis of she actually did him a favor. The same could be said in the reverse situations where the adult is male and the female is a minor. Some female minors will go out of their way to seduce an adult male. It is the adults job to not let that happen whether the adult is male or female.
If the female went out of their way to seduce the adult male, I certainly think that our justice system should take that into consideration. A girl I knew in high school seduced a rich man in his 40s whose wife was deceased, when she was 15. In a case like that I'd have to wonder who is taking advantage of whom. This particular case never became a legal problem, but if it had I think it would be silly to treat the man like he was some kind of monster who had molested a young child.
talloulou said:
To argue that a female minor who sleeps with her male teacher is different from a male minor sleeping with a female teacher is simply sexist. You're basically saying that girls don't like sex and boys do so it's not as bad for adults to take advantage of boys in a sexual way when the boy is willing yet minor girls giving their consent to sex should be ignored cause they can't possibly like sex as much and thus it's not good for them in the same way its good for a guy. What a bunch of BS.
It's not sexist. It's simply an acknowledgement that, yes, there are differences between men and women. It has nothing to do with girls not liking sex and boys do. In relationships, men are generally dominant and women are generally submissive. With an older man and an underage girl, this dominance is magnified, thus making it easier for one party to take advantage of the other. With an older woman and an underage boy, this dominance is mitigated or eliminated, thus posing less of a problem as I see it.
I don't think that there is any law that can make an objective determination of when statutory rape is being committed. Laws that just flatly say "No one over age X may have sex with anyone under age Y" ignore the obvious fact that any moral wrongdoing completely subjective. I have no problem with statutory rape laws, but they should be applied intelligently on a case-by-case basis. This particular case seems a bit silly.