Cuban Dissidents Arrested On Way to Apostolic Nunciature in Havana

[Tigerace117]

The Church Of The Pedophile absolutely fits the definition of a totalitarian regime and has done for near 1400 years. I have no idea what a "tolitarian" regime is. The Vatican's death toll puts pale to any other.

No, actually. Under Stalin alone 56 to 62 million people died. Mao's Great Leap Forward killed 15-45 million in the Great Leap Forward alone.

But you've already proven you don't care about the victims of atrocity so long as the victims are religious.

 

[Realitywins]

No, actually. Under Stalin alone 56 to 62 million people died. Mao's Great Leap Forward killed 15-45 million in the Great Leap Forward alone.

But you've already proven you don't care about the victims of atrocity so long as the victims are religious.

Stings getting suckered in doesn't it? :lamo Through the eons, more have been killed for religious reasons than any other.

 

[Tigerace117]

Stings getting suckered in doesn't it? :lamo Through the eons, more have been killed for religious reasons than any other.

No, more have been killed for land. Or power. Or resources.

Perhaps you should stop apologizing for horrific atrocities if you wash me to stop pointing it out.

Sucks having no political say in this country, doesn't it.

 

[RAMOSS]

No, actually. Under Stalin alone 56 to 62 million people died. Mao's Great Leap Forward killed 15-45 million in the Great Leap Forward alone.

But you've already proven you don't care about the victims of atrocity so long as the victims are religious.

When it comes to Stalin, many were because the planners bought into Lamarckism to develop their 5 years plans in agriculture, and people died from starvation. A key soviet scientist made lots of false claims about what he could ( T.D. Lysenko), and that led to a lot of unnecessary, but not planned deaths. It was brutal, it was unethical, but much was not intentional. The unwillingness to admit mistakes cost many more lives, and I am sure that the fact it wasn't actually planned doesn't really mean much to the dead.

 

[Bodi]

Ok? So we should overthrow the Castros and bring back Batista!


Yay! Freedom! Huts! No schools! No healthcare! Wohooo! :roll:

Why when presented with the illegal arrests and oppression of Castro do we hear about his schools and health care?

 

[Bodi]

The Church Of The Pedophile absolutely fits the definition of a totalitarian regime and has done for near 1400 years. I have no idea what a "tolitarian" regime is. The Vatican's death toll puts pale to any other.

http://www.worldhistorysite.com/population.html

So you are saying that the Catholic Church is responsible for well over 100 million deaths?

Look at the population figures. Those alone make any such suggestion ridiculously ignorant.

 

[Bodi]

Really? What about the Vatican? Billions support that totalitarian regime better known as The Church Of The Pedophile.

"Billions"? There are less than 2 billion Christians in the World.

Sucker. I put those comments out just to see who'd bite and I caught a carp. Only the religious have a paranoid view of their murderous history. Paranoid because facts make them that way.

Why don't you try producing some for a change?

 

[Harshaw]

Why when presented with the illegal arrests and oppression of Castro do we hear about his schools and health care?

From what I can tell, as long as people can read and can see a doctor, it somehow outweighs the totalitarian terror and economic squalor they live in.

 

[Tigerace117]

When it comes to Stalin, many were because the planners bought into Lamarckism to develop their 5 years plans in agriculture, and people died from starvation. A key soviet scientist made lots of false claims about what he could ( T.D. Lysenko), and that led to a lot of unnecessary, but not planned deaths. It was brutal, it was unethical, but much was not intentional. The unwillingness to admit mistakes cost many more lives, and I am sure that the fact it wasn't actually planned doesn't really mean much to the dead.

The Holodomar wasn't intentional?

Stalin's disappearing anybody who disagreed with official policy seems to be fully intentional.

 

[Realitywins]

No, more have been killed for land. Or power. Or resources.

Perhaps you should stop apologizing for horrific atrocities if you wash me to stop pointing it out.

Sucks having no political say in this country, doesn't it.

Yah, religious leaders wanting land power and resources...especially power. I apologize for nothing. None of it had anything to do with me, I am more intelligent than to be religious.

 

[Realitywins]

http://www.worldhistorysite.com/population.html

So you are saying that the Catholic Church is responsible for well over 100 million deaths?

Look at the population figures. Those alone make any such suggestion ridiculously ignorant.

I think a 100 million is a bit pessimistic.

 

[Realitywins]

"Billions"? There are less than 2 billion Christians in the World.



Why don't you try producing some for a change?

There is more than one church of the pedophile. Facts have been provided time and again. They are discarded and denied by the faithful.

 

[Tigerace117]

Yah, religious leaders wanting land power and resources...especially power. I apologize for nothing. None of it had anything to do with me, I am more intelligent than to be religious.

:lamo

Clearly, despite your self professed "intelligence", the facts tell us something rather different about you.

 

[RAMOSS]

The Holodomar wasn't intentional?

Stalin's disappearing anybody who disagreed with official policy seems to be fully intentional.

A lot of it I don't think was.. I think it was just plan mismanagement of the 5 year plan where promised output was not delivered. Of course, they could have very well used them as Guinea pigs for the new techniques, and just didn't care if they died..

 

[Tigerace117]

A lot of it I don't think was.. I think it was just plan mismanagement of the 5 year plan where promised output was not delivered. Of course, they could have very well used them as Guinea pigs for the new techniques, and just didn't care if they died..

That sounds rather Soviet to me.

Not that this "Realitywins" guy cares; he's already on record as not giving a **** about the victims of these atrocities.

 

[Realitywins]

:lamo

Clearly, despite your self professed "intelligence", the facts tell us something rather different about you.

What "facts" are those? Anyone who believes in mythological beings is not only not very intelligent, but decidedly mentally ill.

 

[Tigerace117]

What "facts" are those? Anyone who believes in mythological beings is not only not very intelligent, but decidedly mentally ill.

Anybody who declares, without any proof whatsoever, that no supreme being exists clearly has his own special degree of problems and can't go around tossing stones.

 

[Realitywins]

Anybody who declares, without any proof whatsoever, that no supreme being exists clearly has his own special degree of problems and can't go around tossing stones.

You really don't have a grasp of irony do you?:lamo

 

[RAMOSS]

That sounds rather Soviet to me.

Not that this "Realitywins" guy cares; he's already on record as not giving a **** about the victims of these atrocities.

Oh , Stalin was a brutal dictator all right. I don't know if the numbers given who died under his rule are accurate.. or how much was 'unintended consequences' verses purposeful murder. Like I said, the dead don't care about that. That's the problem with the communist style government... no checks and balances to try to stop things like that from happening.... and you can get a brutal dictator that 'purges' opposition.

 

[Tigerace117]

You really don't have a grasp of irony do you?:lamo

You really don't have any grasp of reality, so.....

 

[Realitywins]

You really don't have any grasp of reality, so.....

:lamo Better look up irony.

 

[Tigerace117]

:lamo Better look up irony.

Actually, considering the fact that you do literally the same thing that you accuse others of doing......

You might want to get a dictionary.

 

[Realitywins]

Actually, considering the fact that you do literally the same thing that you accuse others of doing......

You might want to get a dictionary.

There is a difference. I do it with facts, not faith.

 

[RAMOSS]

Anybody who declares, without any proof whatsoever, that no supreme being exists clearly has his own special degree of problems and can't go around tossing stones.

Unless, of course, they are working off the null hypothesis, and phrase it in the manner of 'there currently is no testable model or objective evidence that would indicate there is a supreme being.'

 

[Tigerace117]

There is a difference. I do it with facts, not faith.

No, you really don't. You've never provided a single "fact"; just your own personal incredulity.