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Covid vs. 1918 Influenza Pandemics.

Gaius46 said:
Yep. If people behaved like intelligent adults instead of morons it’d be under control within a month.
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Winner winner chicken dinner.
 
CaughtInThe said:
those two sentences are so funny (well sick) in the same post.
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Yeup they are all for Death Panels now, seems their opinion changes with the wind, or should we say Tweet.
 
Luther said:
It's just my opinion that the majority of children who get it show Nada, zero and zip in symptoms?
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well, to be fair, we have no idea what the long term affects will be for those who get this virus that damages internal organs. it could be that 25% of the kids need lung transplants at age 50. or 10%. or could be they die earlier.

we just don't know but one would think that with a virus that can be this deadly and destructive that sometime negative awaits at least some of those kids.
 
Luther said:
Perhaps the BLM protesters that gather would take heed of that?(LOL)
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Yes all the protesters need to follow the rules. As do Trump rally attendees and people at folks at Sturgis .

We all do. What is your point?
 
Gaius46 said:
Children do but the rate is so low it’s really not a consideration. What is important is that they are asymptomatic carriers.
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Yes!!!

They may have no symptoms or mild symptoms.....but pass it on to their teachers, bus drivers, family or other care givers.
 
code1211 said:
That doesn't seem likely. This virus is not behaving as previous viruses have behaved. It rises in one place, then falls. Then it rises somewhere else and falls there. Then someplace else and so on.

Our media is not helping with our understanding nor is the reporting by our healthcare industry. I FEEL like it would be enlightening to know what the difference(s) between a normal year's fatalities and this year's might be.

If we are citing 160,000 deaths to have been caused by Covid-19, but the actual count of deaths overall is the same or less, there must be something flawed in the stats.

I've been trying to find a clear statement of the national deaths from all causes by month in 2020 compared to the same tabulation or average from previous years. I can't find a clear statement.

Do you know of a source that is publishing this statistic?
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I think the rising and falling we’re largely correlates to places reopening too quickly and or the populace not following guidelines though that’s just the impression I get from what I’ve read and not something I’ve really delved into.

I don’t know offhand where to get stats on deaths this year versus last but I did read an article a couple of months ago that quoted a study that was published in (JAMA?, NEJM? - I’m sorry I don’t recall) that did that analysis and concluded that we might be undercounting Covid deaths at that point in time. They found that there were something like 3,000 unaccounted for excess deaths.

Only place I can think of that may have that info is CDC. Wish I could be more helpful.
 
Casper said:
Which makes them the most dangerous spreaders, those with symptoms at least know they need to stay home or go to the hospital if it gets too bad.
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why can't adults with brains at least understand THAT ^^^^
 
code1211 said:
I heard one media expert state that here was not a single documented case of an adult catching the virus from a child.

Do you have a documented example of an adult catching Covid from a child.
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holy crap. THAT ^ is what sane people fight in 2020.
 
Gaius46 said:
I think the rising and falling we’re largely correlates to places reopening too quickly and or the populace not following guidelines though that’s just the impression I get from what I’ve read and not something I’ve really delved into.

I don’t know offhand where to get stats on deaths this year versus last but I did read an article a couple of months ago that quoted a study that was published in (JAMA?, NEJM? - I’m sorry I don’t recall) that did that analysis and concluded that we might be undercounting Covid deaths at that point in time. They found that there were something like 3,000 unaccounted for excess deaths.

Only place I can think of that may have that info is CDC. Wish I could be more helpful.
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In his presser last night, the President mentioned in passing that the increases in deaths in other countries this year compared to 2019, I think he cited Europe, were greater than in the US. I could have misunderstood his statement.

I was making a salad and avoiding cutting off my thumb was really more important to me at that moment. ;)

In trying to find a foundation for what he said, if that IS what he said, I'm failing.
 
code1211 said:
I scanned pretty deeply into the article and did not find a reference to a documented case of a child infecting an adult.

Can you post the pull quote that demonstrates the nugget you seem to have found?
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Then you did not actually read the article, try again.
 
Casper said:
Yeup they are all for Death Panels now, seems their opinion changes with the wind, or should we say Tweet.
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they're just massive liars.



with zero integrity.
 
CaughtInThe said:
they're just massive liars.



with zero integrity.
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Correct, but they don't seem to realize it, well some don't, others know they are lying but simply don't care, for them the end justifies the means.
 
Luther said:
So?.....
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COVID Pandemic Timeline (so far in US)...

Started: March 2020
Still Going: August 1920



so, pandemic in...

1918: Lasted 2 years
2020: Lasted 0.5 years (so far)
 
code1211 said:
I heard one media expert state that here was not a single documented case of an adult catching the virus from a child.

Do you have a documented example of an adult catching Covid from a child.
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No I don’t. This isn’t my area of expertise ( dammit Jim I’m an engineer not a doctor - if you’re a Startrek fan) but my first thought would be to wonder why kids might not transmit the disease to adults - maybe lower lung capacity?
 
Gaius46 said:
No I don’t. This isn’t my area of expertise ( dammit Jim I’m an engineer not a doctor - if you’re a Startrek fan) but my first thought would be to wonder why kids might not transmit the disease to adults - maybe lower lung capacity?
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Possible but that only applies to small children, Teens on the other hand have excellent lung capacity and are loud and some scientists say they may actually be super spreaders.

The idea that someone that is infected cannot transmit the virus because they are young defies logic and common sense, not to mention science.
 
Casper said:
Correct, but they don't seem to realize it, well some don't, others know they are lying but simply don't care, for them the end justifies the means.
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what fascinates me is you could have a family of 6 adult children from the same parents and 4 will be sane, 1 will be hardcore (left or right) and one Q nut job. how does that **** happen?

do the nut jobs just feel like Michael Jordan's little brother? did a Michael Jordan take their job/position/girlfriend? do they feel their siblings are more successful/more loved/got more attention?

i do get that everyone's brain is wired differently.
 
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