Courts Strike Down Gun Control Measures in Two States

[jpn]

In the wake of a landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision last year that significantly limits what the government can do to restrict guns, states led by Democrats have scrambled to circumvent or test the limits of the ruling. A few have approved new gun restrictions. Oregon even passed a ballot initiative to ban high-capacity ammunition magazines.​

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But this week, supporters of the new gun measures suffered a pair of setbacks, underscoring the rippling effect of the court’s decision.​

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Large majorities of Americans support some gun regulation. But judges and Justices appointed by minority presidents (Trump failed to win the majority of the votes but won the presidency due to the hackneyed electoral college system) continue to block democratic attempts to regulate guns.

A 10-year-old Maryland law related to licensing requirements for handguns was ruled unconstitutional, and in Oregon, a ballot initiative approved by voters in 2022 that would prohibit high-capacity magazines and require background checks and training to obtain gun permits, was also overturned.

The carnage continues.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Yep, the SCOTUS ruled that states can’t convert our 2A rights into mere state issued privileges.

 

[Str8shooter]

If you want to stop gun crimes, make it a capital offense for anyone who uses a gun when committing a crime.

 

[gdgyva]

If you want to stop gun crimes, make it a capital offense for anyone who uses a gun when committing a crime.

lawmakers dont want to do that

they think it would be targeting minorities, and cant be seen doing that

would rather flap their gums targeting private citizens who obey the laws

 

[RF667799]

In the wake of a landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision last year that significantly limits what the government can do to restrict guns, states led by Democrats have scrambled to circumvent or test the limits of the ruling. A few have approved new gun restrictions. Oregon even passed a ballot initiative to ban high-capacity ammunition magazines.​

​

But this week, supporters of the new gun measures suffered a pair of setbacks, underscoring the rippling effect of the court’s decision.​

​

Large majorities of Americans support some gun regulation. But judges and Justices appointed by minority presidents (Trump failed to win the majority of the votes but won the presidency due to the hackneyed electoral college system) continue to block democratic attempts to regulate guns.

A 10-year-old Maryland law related to licensing requirements for handguns was ruled unconstitutional, and in Oregon, a ballot initiative approved by voters in 2022 that would prohibit high-capacity magazines and require background checks and training to obtain gun permits, was also overturned.

The carnage continues.

Remember when the courts blocked democratic attempts to regulate who could attend certain schools?

 

[SkyChief]

Yep, the SCOTUS ruled that states can’t convert our 2A rights into mere state issued privileges.

Except California.

Cailfornia lawmakers still heavily moderate and regulate the Right to keep and bear arms within the state.

 

[dmpi]

Waiting for WA to toss the clip ban.

 

[Grand Mal]

Remember when the courts blocked democratic attempts to regulate who could attend certain schools?

Like this?

 

[SMTA]

If you want to stop gun crimes, make it a capital offense for anyone who uses a gun when committing a crime.

Punishments do not deter crime.
That is why crime exists.

 

[RF667799]

Like this?

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I'm not familiar with that picture. Can you provide some context?

 

[Grand Mal]

I'm not familiar with that picture. Can you provide some context?

School integration. The Supreme Court ruled that states couldn't segregate schools anymore and that little girl, Ruby Bridges, is being escorted by US Marshalls to school.
It's an example of "...when the courts blocked democratic attempts to regulate who could attend certain schools?"

 

[RF667799]

School integration. The Supreme Court ruled that states couldn't segregate schools anymore and that little girl, Ruby Bridges, is being escorted by US Marshalls to school.
It's an example of "...when the courts blocked democratic attempts to regulate who could attend certain schools?"

Yes, that is the sort of thing I had in mind when I wrote that, in response to a poster who's rhetoric seemed to indicate an opposition to courts blocking democratic attempts to regulate things in defiance of the US Constitution.

 

[Roadvirus]

If you want to stop gun crimes, make it a capital offense for anyone who uses a gun when committing a crime.

Exactly.

Liberals want stricter gun laws while Liberal DA/Judges:
- Give probation to someone charged with felony gun possession (see: Justin Flores/killed 2 cops while on probation for felony gun possession).
- "Electronic monitoring" release (an LA juvenile IPF charge killed rapper PnB Rock).
- Anthony McRae (MSU shooter)/lesser gun charge from felony gun charge prior to MSU shooting/still allowed to own firearm, legally purchased guns used in MSU shooting.

 

[rahl]

In the wake of a landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision last year that significantly limits what the government can do to restrict guns, states led by Democrats have scrambled to circumvent or test the limits of the ruling. A few have approved new gun restrictions. Oregon even passed a ballot initiative to ban high-capacity ammunition magazines.​

​

But this week, supporters of the new gun measures suffered a pair of setbacks, underscoring the rippling effect of the court’s decision.​

​

Large majorities of Americans support some gun regulation. But judges and Justices appointed by minority presidents (Trump failed to win the majority of the votes but won the presidency due to the hackneyed electoral college system) continue to block democratic attempts to regulate guns.

A 10-year-old Maryland law related to licensing requirements for handguns was ruled unconstitutional, and in Oregon, a ballot initiative approved by voters in 2022 that would prohibit high-capacity magazines and require background checks and training to obtain gun permits, was also overturned.

The carnage continues.

Ballot initiatives can’t override constitutional protections. It would take a constitutional amendment.

 

[jpn]

Ballot initiatives can’t override constitutional protections. It would take a constitutional amendment.

I'm sure we all know that.

 

[rahl]

I'm sure we all know that.

Then why did you start this thread?

 

[Str8shooter]

Punishments do not deter crime.
That is why crime exists.

Really? How do you know if crime is deterred since those who might have committed the crimes did not commit them due to the deterrent? When I was in 5th Grade, Mrs. Crawford told us not to get on the maypoles since they were muddy. Some of us did not listen. Mrs. Crawford grabbed that paddle and I received my punishment. Do you want to know how many times I got on the maypoles again after she told us not to get on them? NONE! Also, if you follow my advice and make it a capital offense if someone uses a gun in the commission of a crime, you won't have repeat offenders.

 

[jpn]

Then why did you start this thread?

To show how judges and Justices appointed by minority Republican presidents (Trump failed to win the majority of the votes but won the presidency due to the hackneyed electoral college system) continue to block democratic attempts to regulate guns.

 

[rahl]

To show how judges and Justices appointed by minority Republican presidents (Trump failed to win the majority of the votes but won the presidency due to the hackneyed electoral college system) continue to block democratic attempts to regulate guns.

The constitution precludes you from implementing the restrictions you want. Trump and the justices he nominated do not change this.

 

[Toggle Almendro]

Except California.
Cailfornia lawmakers still heavily moderate and regulate the Right to keep and bear arms within the state.

Not for long. Federal courts have begun to target California's gun laws.


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But judges and Justices appointed by minority presidents (Trump failed to win the majority of the votes but won the presidency due to the hackneyed electoral college system) continue to block democratic attempts to regulate guns.

That is incorrect. Guns are still regulated.

We've been regulating guns for more than 50 years now.

in Oregon, a ballot initiative approved by voters in 2022 that would prohibit high-capacity magazines and require background checks and training to obtain gun permits, was also overturned.

Oh wow! Cool!

Thanks for the great news!

 

[ttwtt78640]

Exactly.

Liberals want stricter gun laws while Liberal DA/Judges:
- Give probation to someone charged with felony gun possession (see: Justin Flores/killed 2 cops while on probation for felony gun possession).
- "Electronic monitoring" release (an LA juvenile IPF charge killed rapper PnB Rock).
- Anthony McRae (MSU shooter)/lesser gun charge from felony gun charge prior to MSU shooting/still allowed to own firearm, legally purchased guns used in MSU shooting.

Since it‘s already illegal (yet not adequately enforced) for a ‘prohibited person’ (anyone who couldn’t pass a BGC) to possess any gun, it makes little sense to impose these additional bureaucratic hoops for those legally able to possess guns to jump through. Adding more “gun control” laws which are intended to limit the rights of (criminalize?) only those legally able to possess guns (able to pass a BGC) is ridiculous and, according to the courts, unconstitutional.

 

[SMTA]

Really? How do you know if crime is deterred since those who might have committed the crimes did not commit them due to the deterrent? When I was in 5th Grade, Mrs. Crawford told us not to get on the maypoles since they were muddy. Some of us did not listen. Mrs. Crawford grabbed that paddle and I received my punishment. Do you want to know how many times I got on the maypoles again after she told us not to get on them? NONE! Also, if you follow my advice and make it a capital offense if someone uses a gun in the commission of a crime, you won't have repeat offenders.

People incarcerated for crimes committed prove my observation.
Don’t waste my time with childish stories.

 

[jpn]

The constitution precludes you from implementing the restrictions you want. Trump and the justices he nominated do not change this.

Oh, so the Constitution is not open to interpretation. What does the Supreme Court do all day, then?

 

[ttwtt78640]

Oh, so the Constitution is not open to interpretation. What does the Supreme Court do all day, then?

OK, but “open to interpretation” doesn’t mean ‘anything goes’, effectively giving the SCOTUS (or other federal courts) the power to effectively amend the constitution.

 

[Toggle Almendro]

Oh, so the Constitution is not open to interpretation. What does the Supreme Court do all day, then?

The only interpretations that are valid are the ones that uphold the intentions of the people who wrote and amendment the Constitution.