Convert them or kill them

[danarhea]

While appearing on FOX News, Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty gave his solution for dealing with ISIS..... Convert them or kill them. Gee, isn't that the exact same philosophy used by.................. ISIS? Discussion?

 

[TheDemSocialist]

While appearing on FOX News, Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty gave his solution for dealing with ISIS..... Convert them or kill them. Gee, isn't that the exact same philosophy used by.................. ISIS? Discussion?

The guy is a ****ing moron. Thread here: http://www.debatepolitics.com/bias-...il-robertson-isis-convert-them-kill-them.html

 

[Respecthelect]

America has no quarrel with Muslims, but radical Muslim's continue to attack us.

As Robertson says, the eagle faces the olive branch, but carries arrows. If you bring war to America, don't complain about the result. We've been more than patient with those folks, but enough is enough.

I'd prefer to see Muslim vs Muslim, but if it can't be arranged, I'm OK with Robertson's solution too. The only outcome I'm not OK with, is the U.S. getting hit with a mass-casualty attack (nuke or otherwise). Right now, this president has us on a path to be attacked. Then he'll then claim he saw it on CNN with the rest of us.

 

[The German]

No.

We have a saying in Germany that one can translate as "Let the wolves ripp each other appart".

So build a wall arround that region, dont let anyone in or out, and let them slaughter each other.

Only bomb them if they cross into civilised lands.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

While appearing on FOX News, Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty gave his solution for dealing with ISIS..... Convert them or kill them. Gee, isn't that the exact same philosophy used by.................. ISIS? Discussion?

Hehe: "Street Gangs / Street thugs on steroids"

It would be the same if we were going over there first and initiating all of this. But we're not - we're responding.

What did Sotloff do? Nothing. All the people who they've killed and attacked - what did they do? Nothing. Children beheaded - what for? No reason.

Someone wants to the bring the fight TO YOU - and if your response is to kill them in YOUR defense then the person defending their self is the same as the perpetrator? No. Not the same. We're not just up one day and going 'lets go get us some islum terrurists'.

This isn't a religious war for the US, either.

If no one responds - Isis will just continue to do what it's doing. So you can support 'not fighting them' if you'd like - but it's not going to stop them if you do.

 

[WCH]

Hehe: "Street Gangs / Street thugs on steroids"

It would be the same if we were going over there first and initiating all of this. But we're not - we're responding.

What did Sotloff do? Nothing. All the people who they've killed and attacked - what did they do? Nothing. Children beheaded - what for? No reason.

Someone wants to the bring the fight TO YOU - and if your response is to kill them in YOUR defense then the person defending their self is the same as the perpetrator? No. Not the same. We're not just up one day and going 'lets go get us some islum terrurists'.

This isn't a religious war for the US, either.

If no one responds - Isis will just continue to do what it's doing. So you can support 'not fighting them' if you'd like - but it's not going to stop them if you do.

Their goal/objective is the establishment of a world wide Caliphate, reflected in frequent media reports by means of images of the world united under a ISIS banner. Including their flag flying over NYC.

Mr.Robertson is absolutely correct.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

Their goal/objective is the establishment of a world wide Caliphate, reflected in frequent media reports by means of images of the world united under a ISIS banner. Including their flag flying over NYC.

Mr.Robertson is absolutely correct.

THEIR goal is to establish a Calliphate.

OUR response is to simply stop them from killing everyone.

 

[Paschendale]

While appearing on FOX News, Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty gave his solution for dealing with ISIS..... Convert them or kill them. Gee, isn't that the exact same philosophy used by.................. ISIS? Discussion?

Hence why the vocal Evangelical movements in this country are sometimes referred to as the Talibornagain. Their aims are surprisingly similar to those of fundamentalist Muslims, except that they want a slightly different coat of paint on it. Lucky thing they live in a secular country where they can't use the tactics of their Middle Eastern counterparts.

 

[Deuce]

Their goal/objective is the establishment of a world wide Caliphate, reflected in frequent media reports by means of images of the world united under a ISIS banner. Including their flag flying over NYC.

Mr.Robertson is absolutely correct.

They want to kill everyone who wont convert to their particular radical version of Islam.

Therefore, we should kill all of them if they wont convert to Christianity.

I ****ing love Christians.

 

[WCH]

They want to kill everyone who wont convert to their particular radical version of Islam.

Therefore, we should kill all of them if they wont convert to Christianity.

I ****ing love Christians.

What would you do with them, sir?

 

[WCH]

THEIR goal is to establish a Calliphate.

OUR response is to simply stop them from killing everyone.

We can kill them all and there will be others that follow. This won't end until God intervenes

 

[Bigfoot 88]

Hence why the vocal Evangelical movements in this country are sometimes referred to as the Talibornagain. Their aims are surprisingly similar to those of fundamentalist Muslims, except that they want a slightly different coat of paint on it. Lucky thing they live in a secular country where they can't use the tactics of their Middle Eastern counterparts.

Bullcrap.

Phil is not saying to people in general, "convert or die."

In simple terms, he is telling ISIL to either give up their mission of genocide or die. Their choice.

 

[Deuce]

What would you do with them, sir?

Provide weapons and air support to Iraqis under assault by these asshats. Pound them until they disband, surrender, or die.

But I certainly wouldn't do exactly what we're hating them for.

 

[Deuce]

Bullcrap.

Phil is not saying to people in general, "convert or die."

In simple terms, he is telling ISIL to either give up their mission of genocide or die. Their choice.

Oh, well, I guess if you only tell some people to "convert or die," it's perfectly fine!

 

[Bigfoot 88]

Oh, well, I guess if you only tell some people to "convert or die," it's perfectly fine!

People like you can't get past the connotation of the phrase. You need to understand the context, the point being made, and the fact that Phil was using their language against them.

Killing murderers who refuse to stop is just. Phil is right.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Hehe: "Street Gangs / Street thugs on steroids"

It would be the same if we were going over there first and initiating all of this. But we're not - we're responding.

What did Sotloff do? Nothing. All the people who they've killed and attacked - what did they do? Nothing. Children beheaded - what for? No reason.

Someone wants to the bring the fight TO YOU - and if your response is to kill them in YOUR defense then the person defending their self is the same as the perpetrator? No. Not the same. We're not just up one day and going 'lets go get us some islum terrurists'.

This isn't a religious war for the US, either.

If no one responds - Isis will just continue to do what it's doing. So you can support 'not fighting them' if you'd like - but it's not going to stop them if you do.

ISIS killed sotloff because we launched air strikes on them.

 

[WCH]

Provide weapons and air support to Iraqis under assault by these asshats. Pound them until they disband, surrender, or die.

But I certainly wouldn't do exactly what we're hating them for.

Phil didn't think they would convert either.

Do you realize we had their leader locked up in an Iraqi prison before Obama let him go?

 

[Jaaaman]

While appearing on FOX News, Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty gave his solution for dealing with ISIS..... Convert them or kill them. Gee, isn't that the exact same philosophy used by.................. ISIS? Discussion?

Phil doesn't speak for me... neither does Sean Hannity for that matter.

 

[Deuce]

Phil didn't think they would convert either.

Do you realize we had their leader locked up in an Iraqi prison before Obama let him go?

I realize he was imprisoned on unidentified charges. Speculation is that it was his imprisonment there that radicalized him.

So, yet another monster created by the United States, perhaps.

 

[Papa bull]

They want to kill everyone who wont convert to their particular radical version of Islam.

Therefore, we should kill all of them if they wont convert to Christianity.

I ****ing love Christians.

I think it should be obvious to anyone with at least two brain cells to rub together that Phil was simply saying that if ISIS doesn't convert into something other than subhuman terrorist scum that they deserve a good dose of their own medicine, ala "convert or kill". Why this should be obvious to those with at least two brain cells to rub together is that Phil limited his comments to ISIS and hasn't in any way insinuated that all non-Christians who don't convert must die. That should be the first clue that it's not really about "converting to Christianity", but about the saying "those who live by the sword die by the sword". As Phil said, "However, if it's a gunfight and a gunfight alone, if that's what they're looking for, me personally, I'm prepared for either one."

That should have been enough to put it into perspective, but then again..... Christian bashing is such good sport, I almost feel bad for being a party pooper about it.

Go ahead and whip out that broad brush and insult Christians of every stripe. It's the open-minded, good spirited, intelligent and certainly the proper liberal thing to do.

 

[Papa bull]

People like you can't get past the connotation of the phrase. You need to understand the context, the point being made, and the fact that Phil was using their language against them.

Killing murderers who refuse to stop is just. Phil is right.

You're just another party-pooper. Why use common sense, reasoning and intelligence to ruin a perfectly vapid Christian conservative badmouthing party? If you don't let these poor little liberals vent a little bit, they'll build up too much pressure and their poor little heads will explode making a terrible mess for other people to clean up and we don't want that, do we?

 

[Unitedwestand13]

You're just another party-pooper. Why use common sense, reasoning and intelligence to ruin a perfectly vapid Christian conservative badmouthing party? If you don't let these poor little liberals vent a little bit, they'll build up too much pressure and their poor little heads will explode making a terrible mess for other people to clean up and we don't want that, do we?

Why should we say things that ISIS will use against us?

 

[Jaaaman]

So, yet another monster created by the United States, perhaps.

Yes... the United States is a bigoted, mean, evil nation that has done dastardly deeds all over the world for decades. I am packing my bags and moving to Cuba. :roll:

 

[WCH]

I realize he was imprisoned on unidentified charges. Speculation is that it was his imprisonment there that radicalized him.

So, yet another monster created by the United States, perhaps.

He was AQs number 3 in Iraq. He's got a PHD.

 

[Respecthelect]

Do you realize we had their leader locked up in an Iraqi prison before Obama let him go?

Is this correct? So not only did Obama arm ISIS, fund ISIS and train ISIS, but he selected the leadership and staffed ISIS too?