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Conservatives tried to hijack Juneteenth Day by claiming Republicans freed the slaves

It's returning what was taken from them. It's something you're unwilling, or unable, to do.
Its not. My land is still part of the United States of America. I can't make my land native american land that is legally recognized by the untied states by simply giving it up. That's not how that works. Are you a child? Do you think that's how it works or are you simply pretending?
 
Its not. My land is still part of the United States of America. I can't make my land native american land that is legally recognized by the untied states by simply giving it up. That's not how that works. Are you a child? Do you think that's how it works or are you simply pretending?

Cute excuse. So you'll just stick to calling for the renaming of Columbus Day and sharing stuff on social media. Like I said, no actual work/sacrifice is the liberal way. 😅 🤣 :LOL:
 
Most voters do not take the time to make an informed vote. The democrats make promises that never come to be.
Which is a reason to primary those democrats. Republicans on the other hand only promise indifference to the cause of black American justice.
For the most part, the only limitations are education and character. There is very little racism today.
No. This is what happens when you talk at the black community rather than listening. Black Americans didnt rob themselves and deny their communities investment and opportunities. Those were written into segregationist housing policies.
Past laws. Stop living in the past, or you will never rise into the future.
No, I'll never stop advocating for justice for injustice no matter how uncomfortable it makes frail whites.
Two wrongs never make a right.
Its not wrong to receive justice for injustice.
In the past, yes. Most people who exploit others are equal opportunity offenders, exploiting people who are gullible. Of any race.
Slavery and segregation weren't equal opportunity exploitation and disfranchisement. I dont care what you imagine about most exploitation, Im talking about the particulars of this one.
Don't include me in that. Most of my ancestors came here in the late 1800's. I have two types of native American in my blood, and black as well.
I include you in the white trash currently standing in the way of black American justice.
I never indicated any such thing. Please check your confirmation bias.

Statute of limitations comes to mind. I'm sorry you think the sons and daughters should pay for ancestral crimes.
They arent ancestral crimes. Segregation ended 65 years ago. Ta-Nehsis Coates made his famous Case for Reparations by detailing injustices to living black Americans.
I keep seeing excuses like this, and it gets tiring to see such silly tripe.
You're the one with excuse for why you don't t support black American justice.
In the past, yes.
Not so far in the past that there arent living victims and direct descendants of living victims.
Riddle me this though. If there was no slave market those 200 plus years back, what would have happened to those who were shipped here as slaves?
Why don't you tell me. You're the one who seems eager to engage in this historical fan fiction.
Are you aware they would have been otherwise executed? The slave traders in Africa were black tribes that sold their enemies after capturing them.
And this argument is so supposed to argue what? Slavery wasn't an actual injustice but a mercy?
Careful...

Your racial hate for whites is showing.
I openly hate white trash. What of it? Unlike soft whites on the right Im not ashamed of my true feelings and feel no need for pretense.
I believe in the present. I believe we should learn from the past. Not try to extort it.
Or hold yourselves accountable for it apparently.

I disagree with that, but at least this is modern times with the living. Not dead ancestors.
Again, segregation ended 65 years ago. Not so ancient even though you like to pretend.
You do not know me, and making such accusations is slander.
I know what you argue for and what you pretend was ancient.
You really should stop and think about how your own bigotry is affecting you. If you come of half-cocked like that in conversations, you will be hated. Not because you are black. But because of the content of your character.
I don't care if white trash like you dislikes me. Again, i dont feel the need to pretend unlike you lot. Despite the tribulations black people have suffered our spirits have not been so thoroughly broken like that of white racists that we feel the need to live a life of pretend and make believe like your lot does. 😂
 
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Cute excuse. So you'll just stick to calling for the renaming of Columbus Day and sharing stuff on social media. Like I said, no actual work/sacrifice is the liberal way. 😅 🤣 :LOL:
Its not am excuse, its a challenge for you to make your argument make sense. How will me giving up my home get native Americans reparations. Its your argument, you should be able to explain it. 😂

Also Im here advocating for reparations that I myself as a black person will partly pay and not receive because debts of the government are untimely paid by tax payers and I'm not black American, historically or culturally.
 
Which is a reason to primary those democrats. Republicans on the other hand only promise indifference to the cause of black American justice.

No. This is what happens when you talk at the black community rather than listening. Black Americans did rob themselves and deny their communities investment and opportunities. Those were written into segregationist housing policies.

No, I'll never stop advocating for justice for injustice no matter how uncomfortable it makes frail whites.

Its not wrong to receive justice for injustice.

Slavery and segregation weren't equal opportunity exploitation and disfranchisement. I dont care what you imagine about most exploitation, Im talking about the particulars of this one.

I include you in the white trash currently standing in the way of black American justice.

They arent ancestral crimes. Segregation ended 65 years ago. Ta-Nehsis Coates made his famous Case for Reparations by detailing injustices to living black Americans.

You're the one with excuse for why you don't t support black American justice.

Not so far in the past that there arent living victims and direct descendants of living victims.

Why don't you tell me. You're the one who seems eager to engage in this historical fan fiction.

And this argument is so supposed to argue what? Slavery wasn't an actual injustice but a mercy?

I openly hate white trash. What of it? Unlike soft whites on the right Im not ashamed of my true feelings and feel no need for pretense.

Or hold yourselves accountable for it apparently.


Again, segregation ended 65 years ago. Not so ancient even though you like to pretend.

I know what you argue for and what you pretend was ancient.

I don't care if white trash like you dislikes me. Again, i dont feel the need to pretend unlike you lot. Despite the tribulations black people have suffered our spirits have no been so throughly broken like that of white racists that we feel the need to live a life of pretend and make believe like your lot does. 😂
Fine.

Lie about me.

Goodbye.
 
Here's another fun fact. Democrats have destroyed every majority minority community in every major city in the country for decades. Democrats have controlled Chicago since the 30s. Detroit Baltimore and other major cities since the 50s and 60s. Atlanta, Mobile, NOLA, Baton Rouges since the 1880s. While other communities in most of those cities thrive...the majorioty minority communities still suffer devastation and death.

YOU did that.

I did?

I must be omnipotent!
 
If you earn nothing, it's because you're unemployed.
So that's the minimum.
Minimum wage only applies to employed people.
So someone has to employ you so you can get the so-called minimum wage meaning the actual minimum you can earn is zero if you're unemployed.
This is where your logic falls apart.
You're making up the stipulation about employment I'm saying the minimum wage you can earn is when you're unemployed and that's zero.
 
You know of course that you would likely have been a slave owner back then...right? Or at the very least a strong supporter of slavery.


Its possible. But I will be leery about determining what vies any contemporary of the 21st Century will have if teleported back to the 17th Century. If they are teleported back to non slave states they probably have anti slavery views; if back to the slave states, pro slavery views. We all tend to be product of our environments
 
You think people don't see into his lies? It appears he bloviates just to make the left go hysterical, and it works. I just kick back with the popcorn.
So do I. The Trump phenomenon fascinates me. Carter got into trouble by saying “ethnic purity,” the older Romney by saying he had been “brainwashed” on a PR trip to Vietnam. On the other hand, Trump lies constantly and easily, has been shown to be a crook several times, insults Blacks, legal and illegal immigrants, refugees, carries felony counts on his record, brags about sexual assault and is found liable for what he bragged about, and still manages to prove himself right by saying he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose some supporters, with them seeming oblivious to that insult.
 
Just as long as we keep in mind America was a slave republic from 1776 to 1865.


You know of course that you would likely have been a slave owner back then...right? Or at the very least a strong supporter of slavery.


The point was that if anyone is going to pillory other Americans for slavery they better keep in mind more than just Confederates were guilty. The great George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were industrial scale slavers; so should we pillory them?
 
Wow.

The entitlement mentality is strong in this one. Spouts of talking points, without specifying the specific cuts.
Your point was democrats somehow causing urban problems, which problems go back to Dickens’ London or even to Caesar’s Rome. I countered it with what democrats have done to benefit society, stuff that the GOP sometimes gets hysterical about, offers no alternatives to, and eventually tolerates and even defends as time passes.
 
And in the next breath they defend statues of 19th century Confederate Democrat traitors. Today's Democrats are trying to destroy the traitorous legacy of the Confederacy and Republicans are trying to glorify and preserve it and rename US bases in the name of 19th century Democrat Confederate traitors.

Maybe... just maybe... that's because today's Republicans are mainly Southern Democrats who became today's MAGA Republicans? Hence... the reason why MAGAts fly the Confederate flag.

That's not conspiracy, that's living, breathing historical fact.

Too many people fail to recognize that political parties change their agendas over long periods of time.
The Democrats of the 1860's were indeed the slavers and the Republicans were the abolitionists.
And yes, it would indeed appear that as the Civil Rights movement gained steam, Democrats decided that it was much better to appeal to the black labor working class and appeal to human rights, as they were becoming increasinly embarrassed by the rest of the country witnessing the horrible treatment of black people down South.

Nobody should deify or lionize a party too much because political parties have always been opportunists to a greater or lesser degree.
Republicans and Democrats are not your "Valentine" that you should fall in love with or worship, they are a bus going to a certain place and if that is close enough
to where you want to travel, get on the bus and pay your fare, then get off.

There are people in politics who desire to do saintly things but that said, human beings are still not saints.
We are flawed and always will be.
The trick is to weigh the good and bad and decide based on there being enough good for the country as a whole.
 
Its not am excuse, its a challenge for you to make your argument make sense. How will me giving up my home get native Americans reparations. Its your argument, you should be able to explain it. 😂

Also Im here advocating for reparations that I myself as a black person will partly pay and not receive because debts of the government are untimely paid by tax payers and I'm not black American, historically or culturally.

Far be it for me to expect you to understand that concept of returning something to someone that was taken from them.

I guess you can add saying, "I support reparations I just don't want to pay them" to the list. It requires next to nothing from you, just how your typical liberal likes it.
 
Too many people fail to recognize that political parties change their agendas over long periods of time.
The Democrats of the 1860's were indeed the slavers and the Republicans were the abolitionists.
And yes, it would indeed appear that as the Civil Rights movement gained steam, Democrats decided that it was much better to appeal to the black labor working class and appeal to human rights, as they were becoming increasinly embarrassed by the rest of the country witnessing the horrible treatment of black people down South.
Well leading up to the civil war Democrats were saying if you abolish slavery who will pick the cotton. Today they're saying the same thing if you enforce borders who will pick our vegetables.

So they might have changed but they changed back.
Nobody should deify or lionize a party too much because political parties have always been opportunists to a greater or lesser degree.
I agree parties are awful but compared to everything else they're better
Republicans and Democrats are not your "Valentine" that you should fall in love with or worship, they are a bus going to a certain place and if that is close enough
to where you want to travel, get on the bus and pay your fare, then get off.
Absolutely I think the idea of someone being a Republican or a Democrat is a little strange I vote for Republicans or democrats I'm not one.
There are people in politics who desire to do saintly things but that said, human beings are still not saints.
We are flawed and always will be.
The trick is to weigh the good and bad and decide based on there being enough good for the country as a whole.
Indeed
 
I'm not lying about you. Now you're just pissy. 😂

You don't support justice for black Americans and you think their injustice was ancient. Feel free to correct any of these indiscrepancies.
Justice?? How is it justice to take money from me for a crime I didnt commit and have it given to you a recompense for a crime for which you were not a victim?
 
So how much do unemployed people get paid for not working?
Same as me when I got unemployment insurance. Not much and not forever.

But before we continue with endlessly circling comments, what is your point? If someone hires me, they are expected to pay me a minimum of so much per hour, depending on the rules in various jurisdictions. There is a federal wage and hour board and a California state labor commissioner enforcing such things. Were I a slave couple of centuries ago, it might be nothing but room and board.

If I don’t seek employment or no one will hire me, I get paid nothing. Is that your point?
 
Same as me when I got unemployment insurance. Not much and not forever.
So then you understand how the minimum wage you can earn is zero.
But before we continue with endlessly circling comments,
I don't know why you keep arguing with me I'm correct.
what is your point?
The point is if you raise the minimum wage you're increasing the people that earned zero. People are paid what they're worth. If they're worth $11 an hour and you demand that they beat the paid 17 they're not worth that, so then they get zero instead of 17 or 11.
If someone hires me,
So someone has to hire you in order for you to get more money than zero so if someone doesn't how much do you make?
they are expected to pay me a minimum of so much per hour, depending on the rules in various jurisdictions.
And if they decide you're not worth that you get nothing.
There is a federal wage and hour board and a California state labor commissioner enforcing such things.
And there's more and more people in California every day making the real minimum wage which is nothing.
Were I a slave couple of centuries ago, it might be nothing but room and board.
If you're not worth the minimum wage today you'll get nothing.
If I don’t seek employment or no one will hire me, I get paid nothing. Is that your point?
Or if you can't get hired because if you're forced to pay people more money an hour you can't hire as many.
 
Far be it for me to expect you to understand that concept of returning something to someone that was taken from them.
I dont understand it because you haven't explained how me giving up my house magically makes it native American land. I dont operate based on your fan fiction. I live in the real world where your argument has to actually make sense.
I guess you can add saying, "I support reparations I just don't want to pay them" to the list. It requires next to nothing from you, just how your typical liberal likes it.
Maybe you just can't read. I said I support paying reparations to black Americans despite being black myself and my family not being here at the time of segregation because America owes black Americans (and native Americans) and I'm an American. Its typical of right wingers to not be able to explain their arguments and make up things about their opponents arguments because you have no good ones.
 
Are you saying we're stupid?
Are you?

What I believe is that like you, most people in the black community have been spoon fed the same lies from people they were led to believe they could trust since birth and for generations who ultimately have been using the community to enrich themselves, ingratiate themselves with the rat party, and get ****ing riiiiiich off their misery. Its hopeful to see that many in the black community are seeing for themselves now the facts. Rats don't give a **** about them. They use them. Meanwhile...approx 13% of black Americans...those that live in those majority minority communities..live in abject poverty and suffer from the consequences.

I don't know what your excuse is.
 
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