gordontravels
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gordontravels said:I can see the concept of a boycott working. You can see the basement ratings of news programs or specific liberal leaning programming at CBS, CNN, MSNBC or other liberal leaning outlets that tells you how the majority of viewers perceive what they are watching. Liberals will single out Fox News Channel as nothing but a right wing outlet while FNC out does all (ALL) of it's competitors in the ratings wars with not only numbers of viewers but multiples of those switching to it's programming.
shuamort said:14,900 from newsmax.com for conservative.
15,100 from newsmax.com for liberal.
Fox News:
"liberal" (1 - 30 of 59)
"conservative" (1 - 34 of 63)
NYTimes:
conservative / since 1996 returned 25755 articles.
liberal / since 1996 returned 15582 articles.
CBS News:
3834 for conservative
2082 for liberal
ABC News:
"conservative" (1 - 45 of 79)
"liberal" (1 - 30 of 82)
Ooops, had to pare down to much to get the message to fit. I just went to their respective websites and did a search on the word. Those are the numbers of articles for each term.Pacridge said:I don't understand?
gordontravels said:And if you go to the Neilsen site you will find that FNC is number one in all catagories of viewers over like channels meaning CNN and MSNBC and also number one in increase of viewers over like numbers year over. Lexis Nexis: do your own search with liberal and conservative and you will see the bias in the lack of liberal label but:
IF YOU LEXIS NEXIS WITH "LIBERAL DEMOCRAT" AND THE TERM "CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN" THE NUMBERS FOR CONSERVATIVE IS SO HUGE AS TO MAKE YOU WONDER IF THERE ARE DEMOCRATS AT ALL. :duel
shuamort said:Ooops, had to pare down to much to get the message to fit. I just went to their respective websites and did a search on the word. Those are the numbers of articles for each term.
That a liberal sprinkling of Mrs. Dash Seasoning™ on a turkey when 20 more guests show up than your original conservative estimate will make a wonderful holiday for all.Pacridge said:I see. What do you think that means?
shuamort said:What's interesting is that, as the OP has pointed out, FOX News has taken the reins of leadership over CNN and MSNBC. FOX News, which has an obvious bias, gets a free pass but others don't.
Instead of arguing for a press that at least attempts to remove bias and just report facts, it's easier to attack the side that disagrees with him/herself. Now why is that?
Pacridge said:Don't you need to subscribe to "Lexis" to use it?
Voice of Reason said:Both the Elite Media channels and Fox News are to some extent biased. Their is no 100% fair and balanced news channel. That is why all news found on TV must be taken with a grain of salt. I for one watch both sides of the news and deduct the truth from the middle ground. We must be careful not to isolate one side of the other.
Remember, a good General knows his enemy better than his own family. To really be able to comment on either side you must be willing to accept and embrace all views. Otherwise your ignorance will come back to bite you. I have learned from this mistake many times and still do from time to time.
The Voice
gordontravels said:And if you go to the Neilsen site you will find that FNC is number one in all catagories of viewers over like channels meaning CNN and MSNBC and also number one in increase of viewers over like numbers year over. Lexis Nexis: do your own search with liberal and conservative and you will see the bias in the lack of liberal label but:
IF YOU LEXIS NEXIS WITH "LIBERAL DEMOCRAT" AND THE TERM "CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN" THE NUMBERS FOR CONSERVATIVE IS SO HUGE AS TO MAKE YOU WONDER IF THERE ARE DEMOCRATS AT ALL. :duel
And if you do a google search on "idiot president" the first link is to the white house. Whoop-dee-doo.Arthur Fonzarelli said:If you do a simple Yahoo search for the Democrat Party Platform number 8 on the list of results is the Communist Party...HHHhhhMMMmmm...a bit telling; wouldn't you say?
RightatNYU said:Actually, there's not really much of a difference.
gordontravels said:You did say "actually" right? Maybe you would like to elaborate because if you look for differences they are there including huge differences in the number of viewers and who really is fair and balanced. No, no one is completely fair and balanced but at least you will hear the word "Liberal" on FNC in a pretty good balance with conservative. Not so on CNN, MSNBC (even from the conservative on their fair and balanced shows), CBS, ABC or NBC. Surely not on PBS who's leader, a Republican, has just come out to say since they are tax-payer funded they have to balance their programming. Bet he's fired soon.
So RightatNYU, please elaborate. :duel
Originally Posted by Pacridge
Don't you need to subscribe to "Lexis" to use it?
geekgrrl said:Also, a lot of conservatives like to paint Democrats as "elitist". Myself, I take that as a grudging acknowledgement of our superiority, since we do tend to be better educated and have higher IQs than our political opposition. Our synapses tend to make all the proper connections to allow the apologetics of reality to be correctly recognized and interpreted, which is why we tend to take social responsibility much more seriously than our "me-my-mine"-oriented Republican counterparts.
We don't need to shout and badger and threaten (à la John Bolton) to get a hearing because what we say is reasonable and stands on its own merit with thinking people of all stripes. We also eschew an "in-your-face" style of political discourse, but this is apparently the conservative style because all the sound, fury, and clanging cymbals does tend to get attention and distract from the lack of substantive argument from the conservative side.
RightatNYU said:Okay.
If you lexis-nexis "liberal democrat" in general news for the past month, you get 663 responses.
If you search "conservative republican" you get 22 responses.
Guess that shoots your theory to ****.
Even if you just look at the NYT, over the past year, they've said "conservative republican" 20 times. They've said "liberal democrat" 22 times. Doesn't look like what you claimed.
vandree said:Searches are free. If you use the service Lexis a la Carte, you give them your info, credit card number etcand they charge you for each document you want to see.
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