Communist Party goes all in for Hillary...

[Kobie]

china knows how to weaken america.. because they once went down that road also... that is why they promote america to go AGAINST ITS WISE FOUNDERS... while china has woke up and now going WITH america's founders... they both treat the UNWISE THE SAME..... but with chairman mao's china they had women doing equal to men no matter the natural differences.... now that has totally changed and the unwise are stopped from the same freedom as the wise gets

What.

 

[Peter King]

perhaps you arent one for calling people fools for their ideology then

Modern Social democracy is based mostly on based on pragmatism (at least where I live and vote) and even then it is not such a foolishly impossible ideology as communism.

 

[Chomsky]

Hate groups are gravitating to both sides. I just wanted to let ya all know that Trump is not alone, Hillary lovers can share the hate now.

I wouldn't call the CPUSA a hate group. Oh - they hate capitalism, and you may hate them, and the Soviet CP hated us. But I don't see them as a hate group.

Now the Nazi's? Yeah, they hate. And we hate them, too! :thumbs:

 

[instagramsci]

So in other words nobody takes it seriously because the FBI was doing its job?

there are a number of things missing from your thought process. ill give you the two obvious ones.

1. why should a party be taken seriously by people who consider themselves communists after being essentially taken over by an entity opposed to their existence

2. "doing its job" as a justification for something can excuse a number of heinous acts and is not particularly well suited for discussing something like this

 

[SailaWay]

Hating HARM is good.... NOT Hating Harm is BAD... a wise person knows which is harm to hate .. so a wisdom test for voters is a MUST

 

[instagramsci]

Modern Social democracy is based mostly on based on pragmatism

citation needed

even then it is not such a foolishly impossible ideology as communism.

let's not allow ourselves to be this intellectually lazy

 

[TobyOne]

No surprise. Hilary is a statist and collectivist. It would have been more surprising if they *hadn't* endorsed her.

 

[Peter King]

citation needed

Nice selective quoting, leaving out the "where I live" part of that quote. And they are pragmatic because I live in a coalition needing democracy where all parties have to pragmatically negotiate to get the best government policies they can achieve out of their political program.

let's not allow ourselves to be this intellectually lazy

Well, I was not aware that I was mandated to be intellectually descriptive when calling out the communist ideology as foolishly impossible. Well, let's start with this:

* the idea of not having private property and having common property is counter intuitive to humans and thus is an extremely foolish idea to think that this will be possible. People like owning things like property/land/businesses, it is the cornerstone or pride, innovation and inventions
* the idiotic idea of public ownership and communal control of the economy is one that has been proven to be a very very very very very bad idea. Again, private ownership is the cornerstone of a successful economy, not 5 year plans and macro managing the economy
* humans are materialistic and envious so no society based on Marx/Communism can work, people are never satisfied with the life they lead

etc. etc. etc.

But this does not change the fact that the communists have no better candidate than Hillary to support this election because she is the one who they would want to win over Trump.

 

[Peter King]

Hating HARM is good.... NOT Hating Harm is BAD... a wise person knows which is harm to hate .. so a wisdom test for voters is a MUST

Nope, everybody has the right to vote, setting tests is just plain silly. It is the right to vote that is the defining character of a democracy, I do not know what travesty of a society you purport to support with a wisdom test, because clearly it is a kind of dictatorial society where the government can impose who can get to vote and who not, you know like in the good old Jim Crow era where all the unwanted blacks where banned from voting by having to perform "tests".

Your idea is insane, was insane and it will always be insane (and a very bad idea too).

 

[MickeyW]

I wouldn't call the CPUSA a hate group. Oh - they hate capitalism, and you may hate them, and the Soviet CP hated us. But I don't see them as a hate group.

Now the Nazi's? Yeah, they hate. And we hate them, too! :thumbs:

I hate no one. I'm pretty much emotional neutral. I have arrested a few thou.

Hating HARM is good.... NOT Hating Harm is BAD... a wise person knows which is harm to hate .. so a wisdom test for voters is a MUST

By all means! I'd venture to say that a large number would fail the test.

 

[MickeyW]

I wouldn't call the CPUSA a hate group. Oh - they hate capitalism, and you may hate them, and the Soviet CP hated us. But I don't see them as a hate group.

Now the Nazi's? Yeah, they hate. And we hate them, too! :thumbs:

Nice selective quoting, leaving out the "where I live" part of that quote. And they are pragmatic because I live in a coalition needing democracy where all parties have to pragmatically negotiate to get the best government policies they can achieve out of their political program.



Well, I was not aware that I was mandated to be intellectually descriptive when calling out the communist ideology as foolishly impossible. Well, let's start with this:

* the idea of not having private property and having common property is counter intuitive to humans and thus is an extremely foolish idea to think that this will be possible. People like owning things like property/land/businesses, it is the cornerstone or pride, innovation and inventions
* the idiotic idea of public ownership and communal control of the economy is one that has been proven to be a very very very very very bad idea. Again, private ownership is the cornerstone of a successful economy, not 5 year plans and macro managing the economy
* humans are materialistic and envious so no society based on Marx/Communism can work, people are never satisfied with the life they lead

etc. etc. etc.

But this does not change the fact that the communists have no better candidate than Hillary to support this election because she is the one who they would want to win over Trump.

Hey...I finally get to agree with a post of yours! :applaud

 

[dimensionallava]

i would say more that the party (any actual real people in it) are liberals and not communists

soc dems maybe, atleast theyre not like the RevCPUSA those guys are actually making a comeback

 

[dimensionallava]

I think it is more likely that they are voting for her because she isn't Orange or called "The Donald"

Communists love the Donald

 

[Grand Mal]

The thing is... china is going away from its chairman mao's EQUAL china and going towards christianity where people goes with their design and not against their design..... Political Correctness is where people goes against their design and not with.... this totally destroys the future of a nation

its like this..... a center position ability on a football team wants equal rights to play quarterback which has a different ability

what happens??? yes total failure... and this is how liberalism will soon fall worldwide its based on people doing an ability they do not have.... like the unwise voting

ohmygod...

 

[Peter King]

Communists love the Donald

And why would billionaire The Donald, who wants to make the rich even richer by letting them pay lower taxes so popular among communists? He is about the communist version of the Anti-Christ who stands for everything communism despises?

 

[SailaWay]

Nope, everybody has the right to vote, setting tests is just plain silly. It is the right to vote that is the defining character of a democracy, I do not know what travesty of a society you purport to support with a wisdom test, because clearly it is a kind of dictatorial society where the government can impose who can get to vote and who not, you know like in the good old Jim Crow era where all the unwanted blacks where banned from voting by having to perform "tests".

Your idea is insane, was insane and it will always be insane (and a very bad idea too).

and our wise founders said.... there never was a democracy that didn't commit suicide.. the wider the democracy is that brings in lower IQ's the faster it will fall.... america's voters IQ's are at RECORD lows and hitting record lows each and every day

Rhodesia to zimbabbee perfect example

 

[SailaWay]

ohmygod...

yes indeed nations that has their people doing an ability they don't have WILL FALL.... these are politically correct nations that do this


here is how it will fall....... on a football team the center position ABILITY wants equal time doing the Quarterback ability position and doing that the team will fall

THE EXACT SAME thing with nations...

 

[Peter King]

and our wise founders said.... there never was a democracy that didn't commit suicide.. the wider the democracy is that brings in lower IQ's the faster it will fall.... america's voters IQ's are at RECORD lows and hitting record lows each and every day

Rhodesia to zimbabbee perfect example

But the US is not Zimbabwe so that comparison is totally nonsensical.

And who decides what is a lower IQ? You, the senate? The president? Sorry, but your whole point of view makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[dimensionallava]

And why would billionaire The Donald, who wants to make the rich even richer by letting them pay lower taxes so popular among communists? He is about the communist version of the Anti-Christ who stands for everything communism despises?

thats easy

because a trump presidency would motivate the lower class for revolution, reformist like clinton just make sure the dogs get bigger crumbs. If voting changed anything it would be illegal. never be deceived into thinking the rich will let you vote their wealth away. the function of bourgeois elections are to secure the consent of the masses to their own exploitation. There is no democracy without socialism. Reformism is bourgeois deception of the workers, who, despite individual improvements, will always remain wage-slaves, as long as there is the domination of capital......etc etc etc

 

[SailaWay]

But the US is not Zimbabwe so that comparison is totally nonsensical.

And who decides what is a lower IQ? You, the senate? The president? Sorry, but your whole point of view makes no sense whatsoever.

oh YES it is.... the same change in voting is occurring.. lower and lower IQ's and that is why crooks gets elected ... zimbabee elected their nations destroyer in Robert MUGABBE

 

[Peter King]

oh YES it is.... the same change in voting is occurring.. lower and lower IQ's and that is why crooks gets elected ... zimbabee elected their nations destroyer in Robert MUGABBE

Nonsense, total and utter, nonsense. That the vote is changing has nothing to do with IQ but with the changing make up of the US population. Zimbabwe elected a semi dictator and as long as he is going to keep winning as long as he "corrupts" the population there. It has little to do with IQ but with greasing enough palms with loads of cash, land and power in order for him to win the election once again.

 

[Tigerace117]

there are a number of things missing from your thought process. ill give you the two obvious ones.

1. why should a party be taken seriously by people who consider themselves communists after being essentially taken over by an entity opposed to their existence

2. "doing its job" as a justification for something can excuse a number of heinous acts and is not particularly well suited for discussing something like this

How is ensuring an organization opposed to the wellbeing and existence of the United States can't operate in secrecy without us knowing about it heinous.

 

[DamnYankee]

But the communists are not haters IMHO, they are fools for believing in that ideology but it is not a bunch of racist hatemongers like Nazi's clearly are.

Commies have only killed 100's of millions of people worldwide, but nah, they ain't haters. LMAO

Are you that gullible?

 

[instagramsci]

How is ensuring an organization opposed to the wellbeing and existence of the United States can't operate in secrecy without us knowing about it heinous.

That would matter maybe if I cared at all about the "wellbeing and existence of the United States" and your post wasn't an attempt to make the US's existence non-ideological. You think communists or anyone for that matter might have reasons that they are anti-US? You know, maybe intervention in their home countries and the murder of their leaders? Or meddling in their economies? Come on

 

[instagramsci]

Nice selective quoting, leaving out the "where I live" part of that quote. And they are pragmatic because I live in a coalition needing democracy where all parties have to pragmatically negotiate to get the best government policies they can achieve out of their political program.



Well, I was not aware that I was mandated to be intellectually descriptive when calling out the communist ideology as foolishly impossible. Well, let's start with this:

* the idea of not having private property and having common property is counter intuitive to humans and thus is an extremely foolish idea to think that this will be possible. People like owning things like property/land/businesses, it is the cornerstone or pride, innovation and inventions
* the idiotic idea of public ownership and communal control of the economy is one that has been proven to be a very very very very very bad idea. Again, private ownership is the cornerstone of a successful economy, not 5 year plans and macro managing the economy
* humans are materialistic and envious so no society based on Marx/Communism can work, people are never satisfied with the life they lead

etc. etc. etc.

But this does not change the fact that the communists have no better candidate than Hillary to support this election because she is the one who they would want to win over Trump.

This is my issue with socdems. Besides the fact that they are hardly discernable from American liberals in that they love capitalism and never critique it as a structure and that they don't give a **** about the global south. And they take at face value fallacious ideas about "human nature" as being static throughout humanity rather than something that is shaped by an individuals material reality