CNN Poll: 7 in 10 who watched say Biden's speech left them feeling optimistic

[Conservative]

You are a coward and do not believe the things you state/predict. It's just cheap talk with a butt-hurt tone.



Good. It's what you do best. Now run along. The thread will become exponentially better without you.

LOL, actually just getting tired of dealing with a radical liberal like you who buys rhetoric and ignores results. I have no respect for someone like you that promotes an ideology and economic policies where you are provided whatever you want paid for by someone else, where personal responsibility doesn't exist and where there are no consequences for poor personal choices. Your liberal ideology is on full display in your neighboring BLUE city and across the country where spending in the name of compassion is promoted and that compassionate spending gets to liberal elites that enslave people. A coward is someone like you who blames others for your own poor personal choices and runs from the reality of the results posted.

you have no understanding of the private sector, have no compassion for the people who are paying high state and local taxes but getting no benefit out of them, and always trying to create more entitlements for yourself and others who buy your bs.

 

[jakiejakester]

Then stop spending so much.

I agree! Let's stop spending on the military for worthless equipment we have that surpass our needs by an enormous amount. Buying more tanks and fight planes gets us what? We already spend 38% of the entire world's military spending. The rest of the world spends $726B per year and the US spends $732B. If we cut our spending to $500B per year over 10 years that saves $2.32T. That's real savings and we would still spend more than any other country. We spend 10x the amount of the next 10 countries combined.

Chart Pack: Defense Spending

A selection of key charts on defense spending in the United States.

www.pgpf.org

 

[Tahuyaman]

No, it's not. I'll repost:
Taxes are not passed onto the consumer in the form of higher prices. As proof, General Electric hasn't paid federal income taxes in at least a decade. Are GE's prices to their customer's any less expensive compared to their competition that pays taxes? No.
David Cay Johnston explains:

The reality is that a business always charges the most it can charge to maximize revenue and profits. Economist call this the peak of the price demand curve. If they raise prices, demand falls enough to reduce revenues and profits. If they lower prices, demand increases but total revenue falls because of lower pricing.

Let's say Apple charges hundreds of dollars for an iPhone, even though it costs less than $50 to manufacture an iPhone. Demand dictates the price. Does anyone really think Apple would drop the price of iPhones if manufacturing costs were lower? Of course not. Likewise, if Apple's tax bill was lower, the savings would go to Apple and its shareholders, not consumers.
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In 2017, Congress and Trump gave corporations a massive tax-cut. Did prices fall? No.

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Original post: https://debatepolitics.com/threads/larry-kudlow-warns-biden-tax-plan-would-ignite-‘class-warfare’.444799/page-7

I don't know how anyone could deny that the cost of corporate taxes is passed on to the consumer. It defies common sense.

 

[jakiejakester]

Liberalism is the topic, spending in the name of compassion appealing to the heart, too bad the results don't resonate with you or anyone else from the left, a true cult like attitude

Sure it is versus the cultist in you who thinks Trump never lied and that he legitimately won the 2020 election...that's the cult you belong to...

 

[Conservative]

I agree! Let's stop spending on the military for worthless equipment we have that surpass our needs by an enormous amount. Buying more tanks and fight planes gets us what? We already spend 38% of the entire world's military spending. The rest of the world spends $726B per year and the US spends $732B. If we cut our spending to $500B per year over 10 years that saves $2.32T. That's real savings and we would still spend more than any other country. We spend 10x the amount of the next 10 countries combined.

Chart Pack: Defense Spending

A selection of key charts on defense spending in the United States.

www.pgpf.org

So 4.9 trillion dollar budget what is the defense spending? you are totally clueless when it comes to reality, what is the role of the Federal Gov't as defined in the Constitution? It is stunning how the U.S. as the world's policeman allows other countries to shirk their defense responsibilities so they can buy votes with social spending, exactly what you want here. Trump made NATO stronger because he held foreign governments responsible for their NATO obligations and for that he got hatred from so called allies

 

[Conservative]

Sure it is versus the cultist in you who thinks Trump never lied and that he legitimately won the 2020 election...that's the cult you belong to...

Trump rhetoric really bothered you so much that it prevented you from seeing or even recognizing the positive results that impacted you and your family, all benefits except for the fact that he cut the subsidized taxes from your state and local taxes that you deducted from your federal return.

 

[Conservative]

Sure it is versus the cultist in you who thinks Trump never lied and that he legitimately won the 2020 election...that's the cult you belong to...

We saw how popular Biden was with his first address to Congress, the worst ratings for a Presidential address in modern history

 

[Tahuyaman]

I agree! Let's stop spending on the military for worthless equipment we have that surpass our needs by an enormous amount. Buying more tanks and fight planes gets us what? We already spend 38% of the entire world's military spending. The rest of the world spends $726B per year and the US spends $732B. If we cut our spending to $500B per year over 10 years that saves $2.32T. That's real savings and we would still spend more than any other country. We spend 10x the amount of the next 10 countries combined.

Chart Pack: Defense Spending

A selection of key charts on defense spending in the United States.

www.pgpf.org

So, in true liberal fashion, national defense is the only place government can cut spending.

BTW, what other countries spend is irrelevant. That's like comparing how much you spend compared to me.

 

[Conservative]

Sure it is versus the cultist in you who thinks Trump never lied and that he legitimately won the 2020 election...that's the cult you belong to...

Let's continue promoting liberal values of paying people not to go back to work, successful in creating career public servants administering social programs to the stay and home crowd that has no incentive to go back to work

COVID-19 fears, stimulus preventing millions from returning to work, BofA says

The U.S. economy is poised to take off in coming months as it rebounds from the coronavirus pandemic, but the recovery faces a new challenge in an apparent labor market shortage.

www.foxbusiness.com

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Government should impose tariffs upon foreign products. That way they are not taxing American productivity.

Oh dear…you don’t know how tariffs work. That is hilarious.

 

[Kushinator]

LOL, actually just getting tired of dealing with a radical liberal like you who buys rhetoric and ignores results.

You've said the same thing at least 50 times to a dozen different people in this thread. That's cringe as ****. I thought you were leaving?

 

[Conservative]

So, in true liberal fashion, national defense is the only place government can cut spending.

BTW, what other countries spend is irrelevant. That's like comparing how much you spend compared to me.

Any idea how many government employees were laid off during the pandemic? Wonder if our liberal friends can answer that one

 

[Conservative]

You've said the same thing at least 50 times to a dozen different people in this thread. That's cringe as ****. I thought you were leaving?

I will leave on my terms not yours, liberal cowards are really afraid to debate actual issues but rather instead levy personal attacks and ignore factual results

 

[Tahuyaman]

Oh dear…you don’t know how tariffs work. That is hilarious.

Are you serious?

 

[Kushinator]

I will leave on my terms not yours, liberal cowards are really afraid to debate actual issues but rather instead levy personal attacks and ignore factual results

You don't debate. You repeat the same defeated propaganda over and over again like a broken record.

So far in this thread, you've made over 100 posts calling people radical liberals.

 

[Conservative]

You don't debate. You repeat the same defeated propaganda over and over again like a broken record.

So far in this thread, you've made over 100 posts calling people radical liberals.

Right defeated propaganda to you are official verifiable results with CONTEXT. do you even know what context means? How can you support an ideology that gives us social disasters like California, NY and even your city of Chicago? You keep buying liberal rhetoric ignoring liberal results which is typical liberal compassion. You are a radical liberal, someone who doesn't understand the private sector. You buy rhetoric, believe what the left tells you, promotes spending in the name of compassion, and then ignores the terrible results generated. A radical liberal is someone with extreme political beliefs like Gov't spending is the answer to all your problems

 

[MTAtech]

Are you serious?

You claimed in post #803, the following:
"Government should impose tariffs upon foreign products. That way they are not taxing American productivity."

Tariffs are a tax that is imposed on the price of foreign products being imported into a country, for the purpose of raising the price of that product, making that product less competitive to the host country. Since it is raising the price to consumers, the consumers are paying the tax. If this was the U.S. government imposing the tariff on imports entering the U.S., then it's American consumers paying the tariff, not the exporting country.

Example: If the U.S. imposes a $1,000 per car tax on foreign cars, a car that would cost $30,000 before the tariff would cost $31,000 after the tariff. The tariff cost would be borne by buyers of cars.

See: ECON 101

 

[Tbird19482]

I will leave on my terms not yours, liberal cowards are really afraid to debate actual issues but rather instead levy personal attacks and ignore factual results

IS that the reason you won't post back to me?
or is it I have shown people on here that you don't know what you are talking about , if you are cornered you run and hide or just don't reply to the person that cornered you
Or is it from back when I showed people how many times you lied and lied
Have a nice day

 

[Conservative]

You claimed in post #803, the following:
"Government should impose tariffs upon foreign products. That way they are not taxing American productivity."

Tariffs are a tax that is imposed on the price of foreign products being imported into a country, for the purpose of raising the price of that product, making them less competitive to the host country. Since it is raising the price to consumers, the consumers are paying the tax. If this was the U.S. government imposing the tariff on imports entering the U.S., then it's American consumers paying the tariff, not the exporting country.

Example: If the U.S. imposes a $1,000 per car tax on foreign cars, a car that would cost $30,000 before the tariff would cost $31,000 after the tariff. The cost would be borne by buyers of cars.

See: ECON 101

Aw yes, liberal compassion on display, China manipulates currency, steals intellectual property making it difficult for Americans to succeed and that is ok with you? Don't worry, 1.2 billion Chinese are not nearly as scary as 143 million Russians. Biden says so

 

[MTAtech]

Aw yes, liberal compassion on display, China manipulates currency, steals intellectual property making it difficult for Americans to succeed and that is ok with you? Don't worry, 1.2 billion Chinese are not nearly as scary as 143 million Russians. Biden says so

Thanks for missing the point. I wasn't defending China -- or any other country's trade practices. I was explaining how a tariff, any tariff, works to someone who clearly doesn't know.

Can you point to my post (867) and show readers where I said anything about China? I didn't think so.

 

[Kushinator]

Right defeated propaganda to you are official verifiable results with CONTEXT. do you even know what context means? How can you support an ideology that gives us social disasters like California, NY and even your city of Chicago? You keep buying liberal rhetoric ignoring liberal results which is typical liberal compassion. You are a radical liberal, someone who doesn't understand the private sector. You buy rhetoric, believe what the left tells you, promotes spending in the name of compassion, and then ignores the terrible results generated. A radical liberal is someone with extreme political beliefs like Gov't spending is the answer to all your problems

Broken record....

 

[Conservative]

Broken record....

liberal diversion!!

 

[The Hairy Fiddler]

BTW, what other countries spend is irrelevant. That's like comparing how much you spend compared to me.

Comparing what the US spends on defense vs. that of other countries most definitely is relevant. Especially considering this country has a national debt of 28 trillion dollars. That you can't follow the bouncing ball here shows just how fiscally irresponsible you and people that think like you truly are.

 

[Conservative]

Comparing what the US spends on defense vs. that of other countries most definitely is relevant. Especially considering this country has a national debt of 28 trillion dollars. That you can't follow the bouncing ball here shows just how fiscally irresponsible you and people that think like you truly are.

Why don't you do what no other liberal will do, tell us how much of the 4.9 trillion dollar budget is defense spending? Then tell us what the true role of the federal gov't is from the Preamble to the Constitution?

 

[MTAtech]

Why don't you do what no other liberal will do, tell us how much of the 4.9 trillion dollar budget is defense spending? Then tell us what the true role of the federal gov't is from the Preamble to the Constitution?

For Fiscal Year 2020 (FY2020), the Department of Defense's budget authority is approximately $721.5 billion ($721,531,000,000). Nothing in the Preamble to the Constitution precludes that number from being lowered to $600 billion, $500 billion, $400 billion, etc.