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The phrase "from the river to the sea" is heard in literally every radicals' anti-Israeli protest.
Calling for the destruction of another country has become pretty mainstream for that agenda.
Actions and words have consequences. Siding with terrorists on the destruction of any country will result in many corporation terminating employment. In this case, Marc sided with the Palestinian radicals, including Hamas, in calling for a free Palestine from the Jordan river to the sea.
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/cnn-drops-marc-lamont-hill-anti-israel-remarks
As the link notes "others noted that the phrase "from the river to the sea" is used regularly by numerous anti-Israel groups, including the terror group Hamas."
People who can read a map will note that imposing a "free Palestine" from the Jordan river to the sea can only be done by wiping Israel off the map.
You have to draw a line somewhere. If he called for the death of Trump, he'd have gotten promoted. He has to know what lane his bosses are driving in.
A one state solution would be the death of Israel, seeing how it would push the Jews into minority status sooner than later.
The only game in town therefore appears to be maintaining the status quo, something that both sides have arranged themselves with far more comfortably than they dare say out loud.
A one state solution would be the death of Israel, seeing how it would push the Jews into minority status sooner than later.
The only game in town therefore appears to be maintaining the status quo, something that both sides have arranged themselves with far more comfortably than they dare say out loud.
It's been some years now since I was last there. But even then one could see a certain difference between the people in their every day life and the respective leadership (both sides).The Oslo II accords seem to be working. I was there last week on both sides of the control areas. Everyone wants peace and prosperity, so it must be a minority who want war...something I didn't see.
For the most part, it's up to the Palestinians to police their own people and stop the terrorists because the alternative is for the Israelis to come in and do it for them.
It's been some years now since I was last there. But even then one could see a certain difference between the people in their every day life and the respective leadership (both sides).
Most Palestinians that I knew (West Bank, mind you) weren't all that gung-ho for eternal deadly conflict and most Israelis weren't either. Trouble is that any radicalization from any side works into the hands of those wanting the fight to keep going. Hence it's those very same doing the radicalizing.
It still remains though that a one-state solution can never find support by Israelis, for reasons already stated. And while some Palestinians may relish the prospect of outnumbering the Jews sooner or later (thus taking it all over thru sheer demographics), most that I met would rather have their own thing, to do with and within what they please.
Of course if it ever came to such an accord, that would leave Hamas out in the rain completely. By what I heard from those daring to speak, Hamas has lost support massively in Gaza as it is, only thing keeping it in the saddle being "the fight". Not so much by gung-ho support for battle but by enabling it to maintain its totalitarian rule over Gaza Palestinians.
The Knesset has made itself very much at home with the current status, however uncomfortable it may be. With most Israelis sharing into the take. To assume any merits seen in replacing it with a one-state solution is remarkably naive.
nearly 3 million in the West Bank, nearly 2 million in Gaza, put in another 2 million from Jordan, and bingo.~..........................Not sure how the Palestinians can outnumber the Israelis; there are about 750,000 Palestinians outside Israel and about 250,000 inside without about 6 million Israelis.
nearly 3 million in the West Bank, nearly 2 million in Gaza, put in another 2 million from Jordan, and bingo.
I agree on many having made their lot outside (Jordan and further afield), but quite a number might see new prospects "at home".Thanks for the update. Obviously I used bad data and yours checks out good.
As for Jordan, even if Marc and the Jihadists destroyed Israel and murdered all of the Jews or pushed them into the sea, I doubt many of the Palestinians who have established lives outside of Israel or the Palestinian areas would move back just like I doubt many Cubans would leave Miami for Cuba once that country fully opens up again.
I agree on many having made their lot outside (Jordan and further afield), but quite a number might see new prospects "at home".
As regards Miami, it would probably maintain its Cuban flair but there would no doubt be some drain.
Having made the assessment I hold to be realistic, I see not much point in dealing with rants that have no basis in factuality (let alone actuality as in knowledge of the situation).
Thread solved as far as I'm concerned.
To deny or delude yourself about the facts on the ground is to have an opinion that is not grounded in reality
To want to see the continuance of the " status quo " is to want to see the continuing gross violations of the Palestinian people and the brazen illegality of their treatment by the state of Israel and the resultant violent backlash against Israelis from some Palestinians that it propagates. That's the reality
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To deny or delude yourself about the facts on the ground is to have an opinion that is not grounded in reality
To want to see the continuance of the " status quo " is to want to see the continuing gross violations of the Palestinian people and the brazen illegality of their treatment by the state of Israel and the resultant violent backlash against Israelis from some Palestinians that it propagates. That's the reality
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Not really. You would prefer the status quo to accepting something less than a full state and something less than the full west bank and Jerusalem, right?
I’m not sure any of us here actually want the status quo. I would much rather have the Palestinians accept reality and find leaders who will accept a compromise with Israel which gets them what they need for self determination and a better future instead of clinging to the delusional fantasy of “liberating historic palestine” while the population sees its progress stunted (although I believe they still outperform Jordan and possibly Egypt, which may tell us something about something).
But since there is no real prospect for Palestinian leadership to genuinely moderate and the “pro-palestinians” in the west actually make it more difficult for that to happen, I’m not quite sure what we are left with.
Incidentally, those who support the Palestinians’ “resistance”, such that it is, don’t really have much of a leg to stand on when lecturing others about the indecency of the positions they support. Just saying.
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Have you ever been there? Have you been to Israel? Any other nations in the region? Have you even left your home state? Been outside the US?
I don't see the relevance but no...
Dodging by the antisemitics is common.
The fact remains Marc was wrong to side with those seeking the destruction of Israel as are all those who seek the same.
Of course you don't but thanks for admitting you've never been there.
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