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(CNBC) Education Department says Columbia University fails to meet accreditation standards

Hamish Howl said:
So, what, Columbia threw all the Jews out?
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That's the funniest part about all of this. Columbia is by far the jewiest of all the Ivys.

Back in the '20s and '30s, they capitulated to the ancestors of today's MAGAs, and actually put quotas into place, because right-wing Americans thought it was unfair that Columbia admitted too many Jews.

They really are the Neville Chamberlain of Ivys.
 
Chomsky said:
(CNBC) Education Department says Columbia University fails to meet accreditation standards
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I'm not eager to add a third thread in one day, into the busy Breaking News Forum. But, I felt this news item was too important to pass over.

It appears the Trump Administration has found Columbia University does not meet accreditation standards, and has informed the relevant accreditation agency (Middle States Commission on Higher Education) of the violation.

This is huge. Accreditation is required to receive Pell Grants & Student Loans, and even determines whether degrees and transfer credits will be accepted by other academic institutions, professional societies, and in Industry.

I'm blown-away that the future of an academic institution is at the hands a government administrative determination.
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Was this not clear when they started burning Harvard witches at the stake?

This administration is declaring war on knowledge, education, and truth, and I'm sorry, there is no democracy without the free flow of information between people, which is what they're really trying to undermine.

Authoritarian regimes attack education and freedoms of speech and the press because they want to become the source of truth.
 
Chomsky said:
But these students cannot censor the thoughts and speech of others that are different than them, nor others expressing it to them in public spaces.
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I totally agree, but the federal government does not. Here's the law:

No person in the United States shall, on the ground of race, color, or national origin, be excluded from participation in, denied the benefits of, or subjected to discrimination under any program or activity receiving federal financial assistance.
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If the Jewish students are being truthful, and Columbia didn't do anything about it, then yes, they violated title 6.

Just imagine if it were black students being harassed by white students. I'm pretty sure then Columbia would have taken swift, and merciless action.
 
Ishm said:
From the article -
"The department’s Office for Civil Rights in early February began investigating Columbia for possible discrimination or enabling harassment of Jewish students and faculty in violation of Title VI, the section of the Civil Rights Act that bars recipients of federal funding from discriminating on the basis of race, color or national origin."
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Ishm said:
Can you believe the incredible f'ing irony of Trump attacking anything on the basis that they were discriminating on the basis of race, color, or national origin????
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The irony was not lost at all . . .
 
Chomsky said:
(CNBC) Education Department says Columbia University fails to meet accreditation standards
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I'm not eager to add a third thread in one day, into the busy Breaking News Forum. But, I felt this news item was too important to pass over.

It appears the Trump Administration has found Columbia University does not meet accreditation standards, and has informed the relevant accreditation agency (Middle States Commission on Higher Education) of the violation.

This is huge. Accreditation is required to receive Pell Grants & Student Loans, and even determines whether degrees and transfer credits will be accepted by other academic institutions, professional societies, and in Industry.

I'm blown-away that the future of an academic institution is at the hands a government administrative determination.
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Columbia certainly isn't protecting Jewish students.
 
multivita-man said:
Was this not clear when they started burning Harvard witches at the stake?

This administration is declaring war on knowledge, education, and truth, and I'm sorry, there is no democracy without the free flow of information between people, which is what they're really trying to undermine.

Authoritarian regimes attack education and freedoms of speech and the press because they want to become the source of truth.
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Is this the same Harvard who sent their plagiarist President to Congress to testify that whether or not calling for the genocide of Jews violates their code of conduct depends on the context? That Harvard?
 
Napoleon said:
Is this the same Harvard who sent their plagiarist President to Congress to testify that whether or not calling for the genocide of Jews violates their code of conduct depends on the context? That Harvard?
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I think you're misrepresenting facts.
 
trixare4kids said:
Columbia U. is not being singled out. They cannot claim victimhood in this matter.
Columbia is being held to the same standards as every other institution of higher learning. If a university fails to meet accreditation standards due to their own fault by ignoring violations of federal antidiscrimination laws, specifically Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 due to their failure to protest Jewish students from hate and harassment, then they deserve their comeuppance.
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Explain through the accreditation requirements exactly what constitutes “ failure to protect Jewish students from hate and harassment.
 
dcsports said:
What are they going to fight? The University messed up. Their own task force came to the conclusion that the university had a problem, and they failed to respond to concerns. The president of the university resigned over it. The office of Civil Rights at DHHS concluded they violated the student's civil rights back in May - bringing up many of the same points that the internal task force noted.
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They did mess up. But not in the way you think.

It'll be a generation before Columbia's reputation recovers for their attempts at appeasement. They should have known better.
 
TheDoctorWasIn said:
They did mess up. But not in the way you think.

It'll be a generation before Columbia's reputation recovers for their attempts at appeasement. They should have known better.
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That's one of the more ridiculous arguments posted on this board.

Explain how admitting their mistakes and working to correct them is "appeasement"
 
Napoleon said:
That was literally her testimony.
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It was, but you're misrepresenting what she said, either because you can't understand context or deliberately misconstruing context in a vain attempt to win the internet.

Let's flip this around: if she said whether Zionists or their American enablers calling for the continued ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in Gaza was a violation of school policy depended on the context, would you apply the same standard?
 
dcsports said:
Explain how admitting their mistakes and working to correct them is "appeasement"
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🤣

The only mistake they made was capitulating to Trump's demands. For the number of Jews in Columbia's leadership, it's amazing they forgot that appeasement doesn't work with fascists - this thread is proof of that.

You're smart enough to see how this is going to play out, no matter how much you pretend otherwise. Don't play stupid.
 
cpwill said:
I mean... as long as institutions take federal money, the federal government will have the power to take it away.
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cpwill said:
1. It is good that Columbia face serious consequences in the face of it's behavior. If it had been black students or Muslim students being treated this way, this would have happened long ago (actually it never would have really started, as Administrators would have landed on that with strict consequences immediately).

2. However, it does indeed set a precedent for this kind of power to be used by the next Democrat Administration. Expect schools who don't allow males to play in female sports (or something similar) to face similar accreditation threats in the future.
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I get that. I mean, in technical terms. But, I don't like it one bit in general terms.

As to whatever may or may not have occurred at Columbia earlier, they've committed to work with Trump to meet his demands.

Unfortunately, they claim Trump is not communicating with them and they don't know what his demands are.

Here:

www.bbc.com

Columbia University agrees to several Trump demands

The Trump administration has warned 60 universities funding may be cut if they do not address allegations of antisemitism on campuses.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
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