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Clone your Dog?

Mach

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Cloning is well known, but I never personally thought about cloning a pet. If you have that dog that is just awesome, given that they also die so young, would you ever consider cloning them?

On the one hand I think it's amazing and wonderful, on the other I feel if I loved my dog, I would in some strange emotional way, want them to stay unique. I would feel maybe like I was betraying them by "rebooting" their DNA. I definitely have no ethical reason to want anyone else not to do it (or religious!). What say you? It was prompted by seeing this headline:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/cel...-violet/ar-BBJEUFG?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
 
My dog is awesome, I wish I could clone her, and she is a hard breed to find. But, genetically it will be the same, but it will have a different personality.
 
beefheart said:
My dog is awesome, I wish I could clone her, and she is a hard breed to find. But, genetically it will be the same, but it will have a different personality.
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You do have to wonder, cloning will to some extent let us resolve the nature vs nurture question.
Will the exact same (genetically speaking) dog have the same personality?
I think it is unlikely.
 
Mach said:
Cloning is well known, but I never personally thought about cloning a pet. If you have that dog that is just awesome, given that they also die so young, would you ever consider cloning them?

On the one hand I think it's amazing and wonderful, on the other I feel if I loved my dog, I would in some strange emotional way, want them to stay unique. I would feel maybe like I was betraying them by "rebooting" their DNA. I definitely have no ethical reason to want anyone else not to do it (or religious!). What say you? It was prompted by seeing this headline:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/cel...-violet/ar-BBJEUFG?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
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Cloning would not duplicate my dog's as most have been rejects... Two were tossed out of a truck and were infested with parasites. One was a psycho Dalmatian damaged by too many years of confinement. One is a three legged rescue from Mexico.

Their backgrounds made their personality.

They may get the body right but the "personality" will likely be unlike the originals.
 
I thought they still hadn't worked out how to avoid premature aging in clones yet?
 
Fledermaus said:
Cloning would not duplicate my dog's
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Nature vs nurture is a long discussed topic, I think nature has far more control over us than we like to think.

But a mentally damaged dog and physically damaged one...yeah, you aren't going to replicate that with a clone, or at least not ethically!!
 
If I had a really cool and unique looking dog then I might. Or if it was a very intelligent dog with a good demeanor, ideal for training, I might. But it won’t be the same dog, of course. Personalities are largely built from memories and the clone won’t have any of your previous pet’s memories. I mean, there are a lot of identical twins out there with very different personalities.
 
Mach said:
Cloning is well known, but I never personally thought about cloning a pet. If you have that dog that is just awesome, given that they also die so young, would you ever consider cloning them?

On the one hand I think it's amazing and wonderful, on the other I feel if I loved my dog, I would in some strange emotional way, want them to stay unique. I would feel maybe like I was betraying them by "rebooting" their DNA. I definitely have no ethical reason to want anyone else not to do it (or religious!). What say you? It was prompted by seeing this headline:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/cel...-violet/ar-BBJEUFG?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
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The world does not need more dogs. Scientists should be focusing on important things, like genetically engineering cat girls for domestic ownership.

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Mach said:
Cloning is well known, but I never personally thought about cloning a pet. If you have that dog that is just awesome, given that they also die so young, would you ever consider cloning them?

On the one hand I think it's amazing and wonderful, on the other I feel if I loved my dog, I would in some strange emotional way, want them to stay unique. I would feel maybe like I was betraying them by "rebooting" their DNA. I definitely have no ethical reason to want anyone else not to do it (or religious!). What say you? It was prompted by seeing this headline:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/cel...-violet/ar-BBJEUFG?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
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I get your point and it is a good one, but IMO owning pets lets us and our children learn to let go. It's especially good for children to understand that we all have a life span and a well lived life is it's own reward. But as adults, we often don't want to let go, and as adults that is OK too.

My dog has "issues" to do with biting, so as a home and family pet, she's great. But I have to be careful with her around strangers. I really think the best thing about cloning is that you can keep the personality and install it in a new dog. In my case I would not clone mine.

BTW, would the cloned mind come housebroken like my Callie 1.0? That could work in her favor. ;)
 
Goshin said:
I thought they still hadn't worked out how to avoid premature aging in clones yet?
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Dolly's 5 sisters lived normal sheep lives, when they reviewed the tapes, they found
dolly died early because of the excessive treats the photographers were given to keep her still while being photographed.
There is a bit of irony there!
 
longview said:
You do have to wonder, cloning will to some extent let us resolve the nature vs nurture question.
Will the exact same (genetically speaking) dog have the same personality?
I think it is unlikely.
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My wife looked into the pet cloning thing:roll: and it's expensive. You might get a physically identical critter but the personality is a unique thing - almost zero chance it would be the same. Thankfully, the subject was dropped.
 
chuckiechan said:
I get your point and it is a good one, but IMO owning pets lets us and our children learn to let go. It's especially good for children to understand that we all have a life span and a well lived life is it's own reward. But as adults, we often don't want to let go, and as adults that is OK too. My dog has "issues" to do with biting, so as a home and family pet, she's great. But I have to be careful with her around strangers. I really think the best thing about cloning is that you can keep the personality and install it in a new dog. In my case I would not clone mine. BTW, would the cloned mind come housebroken like my Callie 1.0? That could work in her favor. ;)
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Yeah, I've never really owned a dog until about 5 years back, and it was adopted from a shelter, no idea about his past. He was strange but non-aggressive for the first 4 months, but at what we believe was about age 1 or so, he became aggressive, and it escalated and spiraled out of control. We spent lots of money on trainers and behavior specialists and later medication, to no avail, very sad. A year later we got a golden doodle, and I was annoyed by him as a puppy, but love him now. His little sister is still a puppy, she's a criminal instigator, who has also made it so that we are replacing all carpet in the house, I can't wait until she grows up too. Loving the older dog now, he's just great...made me think.

As I said, I don't think I'd be interested in it myself for a variety of reasons, and certainly not for the price (tens of thousands?). How many dogs could be helped with that instead of a clone? But I bet one day it will be relatively inexpensive and a lot more common place. All those sci-fi shows that pit the "it's not natural" vs "immortal life and cloning", likely no far off from how it will be.
 
Mach said:
Yeah, I've never really owned a dog until about 5 years back, and it was adopted from a shelter, no idea about his past. He was strange but non-aggressive for the first 4 months, but at what we believe was about age 1 or so, he became aggressive, and it escalated and spiraled out of control. We spent lots of money on trainers and behavior specialists and later medication, to no avail, very sad. A year later we got a golden doodle, and I was annoyed by him as a puppy, but love him now. His little sister is still a puppy, she's a criminal instigator, who has also made it so that we are replacing all carpet in the house, I can't wait until she grows up too. Loving the older dog now, he's just great...made me think.

As I said, I don't think I'd be interested in it myself for a variety of reasons, and certainly not for the price (tens of thousands?). How many dogs could be helped with that instead of a clone? But I bet one day it will be relatively inexpensive and a lot more common place. All those sci-fi shows that pit the "it's not natural" vs "immortal life and cloning", likely no far off from how it will be.
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I would be more inclined to adopt a pet. My daughter in law is a "foster pet parent" and keeps them for awhile then lets them be adopted. She has had zero dangerous problems with them. Maybe it's the way they are chosen, I really don't know. My dog gets along with them well, though. They form their little three dog pack and run around the house and back yard. Must be a dog thing.
 
chuckiechan said:
I would be more inclined to adopt a pet. My daughter in law is a "foster pet parent" and keeps them for awhile then lets them be adopted. She has had zero dangerous problems with them. Maybe it's the way they are chosen, I really don't know. My dog gets along with them well, though. They form their little three dog pack and run around the house and back yard. Must be a dog thing.
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I don’t know how those people take an animal in and then are able to emotionally detach when the time comes. As far as the OP, once you can replace things on demand, doesn’t that cheapen the uniqueness of the experience?
 
Rexedgar said:
I don’t know how those people take an animal in and then are able to emotionally detach when the time comes. As far as the OP, once you can replace things on demand, doesn’t that cheapen the uniqueness of the experience?
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I get the impression that these dogs are the lucky ones. They all seem to have some problem or another that is temporary.

She is just doing her part to get pets into homes.
 
beefheart said:
My dog is awesome, I wish I could clone her, and she is a hard breed to find. But, genetically it will be the same, but it will have a different personality.
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Genetics form a great part of someone's personality. On the other hand, there are so many dogs out there, it sounds like more trendy and status than a good thing to do.
 
RAMOSS said:
Genetics form a great part of someone's personality. On the other hand, there are so many dogs out there, it sounds like more trendy and status than a good thing to do.
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besides it's just another far left limousine liberal bitch who did it. most here couldn't afford it and you are right, it's more trendy than the right thing to do.
 
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