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Clinton confronted by laid-off coal worker at West Virginia campaign stop | Fox News
Why do these people think their families are more important than the environment? It just boggles my mind that people can be so selfish and not see the big picture?
Clinton confronted by laid-off coal worker at West Virginia campaign stop | Fox News
Why do these people think their families are more important than the environment? It just boggles my mind that people can be so selfish and not see the big picture?
Clinton confronted by laid-off coal worker at West Virginia campaign stop | Fox News
Why do these people think their families are more important than the environment? It just boggles my mind that people can be so selfish and not see the big picture?
Clinton confronted by laid-off coal worker at West Virginia campaign stop | Fox News
Why do these people think their families are more important than the environment? It just boggles my mind that people can be so selfish and not see the big picture?
Clinton confronted by laid-off coal worker at West Virginia campaign stop | Fox News
Why do these people think their families are more important than the environment? It just boggles my mind that people can be so selfish and not see the big picture?
The deal here is: There has to be enough pressure put on families like this, that they adapt to changing society due to economic realities - *without* knocking them sideways out of the box. And they need valid avenues of transition.People don't care about the big picture when their family is starving, or when the electricity is going to be shut off because their out of work and can't find another job.
Clinton confronted by laid-off coal worker at West Virginia campaign stop | Fox News
Why do these people think their families are more important than the environment? It just boggles my mind that people can be so selfish and not see the big picture?
The deal here is: There has to be enough pressure put on families like this, that they adapt to changing society due to economic realities - *without* knocking them sideways out of the box. And they need valid avenues of transition.
But if we give-in as a society to every individual's reluctance to change with the times, we'd never move ahead as a society! We'd be back in the dark ages! Otherwise, to economically continue in ways that don't work, we're just providing another form of welfare - and we have more than enough welfare in this country!
As a father, I see it as this guy's responsibility to be smart, think, and plan ahead to accomplish what's in the best interest of his family. In both my grandfathers' case, it involved leaving war-torn Europe for America! In my father's case, it was working like a dog (7A-11P 6 days!) to finance and assist my mother in starting her own business so they could be self-reliant and independent, allowing them to own a house & educate their children. And in my case, it was much more humble: I moved my family out of my badly failing neighborhood deep in the city, into the best suburb I could attain - giving my wife & kids a quiet peaceful safe life, with excellent education and quality of life. This is as men, what we do. This is the American story.
So this guy's crying falls on deaf ears, with me. We need to give him some transitional help obviously, but after that the rest is up to him. If the men in my family could successfully flee war and poverty, I'm sure in a country as easy and great as America this guy should be able to figure it out.
Yeah, I was focusing on the OP's question & comment.I agree, to a point. If, as "Bo" says, current government policies have created the loss of jobs, then the administration should have a plan in place for transition. And, Bo could have been listening and realized coal was a dead end.
What we are avoiding, though, is how Hilary skirted the question. She claimed she was "taken out of context" which is an excuse which is a lie 1,000 times out of 1,003 events. She has been waging war on coal and fossil fuels in general and she failed to address the primary question, which was based on the above noted government policies.
Like the difference between fishers and loggers. Fishers ran out of fish and people had to make the adjustment themselves, but when government policy (US) eliminates 10,000 jobs overnight, somebody has to pony up to the bar, otherwise that entire "society" you talk about will crumble.
If I can interject, it's not like in the old days where you can just move to another part of the country where the jobs are (our oil rig jobs are dead remember). And members of both parties allowed the Chinese to flood our country with cheap subsidized tires and solar panels, so there are not as many jobs there either. Both parties have have escalated efforts to allow companies to abuse H-1B visas so even our high tech/high skilled jobs can be replaced. The meme of "there are jobs to replace them" would be true except both parties have colluded to make sure that those replacement jobs are not available. So this guy's plight is more sympathetic the more you know about our economic system.The deal here is: There has to be enough pressure put on families like this, that they adapt to changing society due to economic realities - *without* knocking them sideways out of the box. And they need valid avenues of transition.
But if we give-in as a society to every individual's reluctance to change with the times, we'd never move ahead as a society! We'd be back in the dark ages! Otherwise, to economically continue in ways that don't work, we're just providing another form of welfare - and we have more than enough welfare in this country!
As a father, I see it as this guy's responsibility to be smart, think, and plan ahead to accomplish what's in the best interest of his family. In both my grandfathers' case, it involved leaving war-torn Europe for America! In my father's case, it was working like a dog (7A-11P 6 days!) to finance and assist my mother in starting her own business so they could be self-reliant and independent, allowing them to own a house & educate their children. And in my case, it was much more humble: I moved my family out of my badly failing neighborhood deep in the city, into the best suburb I could attain - giving my wife & kids a quiet peaceful safe life, with excellent education and quality of life. This is as men, what we do. This is the American story.
So this guy's crying falls on deaf ears, with me. We need to give him some transitional help obviously, but after that the rest is up to him. If the men in my family could successfully flee war and poverty, I'm sure in a country as easy and great as America this guy should be able to figure it out.
That's fair criticism, Reinoe. But my wife is Aisian, and her crowd come here with nothing (as she did), yet I see them all enter middle-American society in a short time, usually 5-10 years.If I can interject, it's not like in the old days where you can just move to another part of the country where the jobs are (our oil rig jobs are dead remember). And members of both parties allowed the Chinese to flood our country with cheap subsidized tires and solar panels, so there are not as many jobs there either. Both parties have have escalated efforts to allow companies to abuse H-1B visas so even our high tech/high skilled jobs can be replaced. The meme of "there are jobs to replace them" would be true except both parties have colluded to make sure that those replacement jobs are not available. So this guy's plight is more sympathetic the more you know about our economic system.
On a tangent, I know a guy who got a pH.D. in Physics who tried to apply for unemployement after looking for work for two years because the STEM jobs are not there. So before anyone says "get a degree"; those scientific degrees are not the panacea the politicians have led you to believe. The jobs just aren't there because our politicians have made sure that they aren't there.
That's fair criticism, Reinoe. But my wife is Aisian, and her crowd come here with nothing (as she did), yet I see them all enter middle-American society in a short time, usually 5-10 years.
They work several jobs, and concurrently get degrees in medical sciences, often Nursing but sometimes Physical Therapy. And then they still work three jobs! Only for a lot more money! And I'm not exaggerating here. They also work extremely well and cohesively as family units. When the wife is working one job and going to nursing school, the husband is working two and three jobs! Then the father goes to nursing school when the wife is done! Even the kids work hard! The eldest take care of the house and the youngers. Everybody works hard. And they remind me of my family in decades past, and even today they seem to get similar results.
Part of the good I saw in my wife when she I first met her, was the qualities she shared with my grandfather (as crazy as that sounds). She got off a plane, knowing no one but having a contact for work as a live-in nurse, and set-off to work long hours in this foreign land, sending nearly all her money back to her elderly and sick parents back in Asia.
I'll also share this with you:
I'm the eldest son, and 4 years older than one of my brothers, and 5 and 6 years from the other two. When I was a kid I was responsible for them. At 12 or 13, when my parents weren't around the house it was considered my responsibility to keep an eye on them and keep them and the house in order. Even as I got older, and my brothers got into troubles outside of the house, my parents came to me first to find-out why wasn't I looking out for them. And it's exactly the same in my wife's Asian culture. They will sacrifice everything, even sell their house to provide that first kid an education, but then that kid is expected to help the next one in line, and then #2 is expected to help #3, etc. Then in due time, everyone does their best to help the parents in their old age.
And that's *exactly* the way my family is, too. We bring our dying elders home to die, and make the sacrifices they earlier did for us, whether grandparent, uncle, or parent.
This I believe works even in difficult situations, but you've got to stay together and work hard & selflessly together. When you've got multiple adults and kids all working hard, each doing whatever it is they can do best and within their means, all contributing and cooperating, you're going to have successes if you continue to work hard, think smart, and stay out of self-caused trouble (i.e. crime, drugs, illegit pregnancy).
The deal here is: There has to be enough pressure put on families like this, that they adapt to changing society due to economic realities - *without* knocking them sideways out of the box. And they need valid avenues of transition.
But if we give-in as a society to every individual's reluctance to change with the times, we'd never move ahead as a society! We'd be back in the dark ages! Otherwise, to economically continue in ways that don't work, we're just providing another form of welfare - and we have more than enough welfare in this country!
As a father, I see it as this guy's responsibility to be smart, think, and plan ahead to accomplish what's in the best interest of his family. In both my grandfathers' case, it involved leaving war-torn Europe for America! In my father's case, it was working like a dog (7A-11P 6 days!) to finance and assist my mother in starting her own business so they could be self-reliant and independent, allowing them to own a house & educate their children. And in my case, it was much more humble: I moved my family out of my badly failing neighborhood deep in the city, into the best suburb I could attain - giving my wife & kids a quiet peaceful safe life, with excellent education and quality of life. This is as men, what we do. This is the American story.
So this guy's crying falls on deaf ears, with me. We need to give him some transitional help obviously, but after that the rest is up to him. If the men in my family could successfully flee war and poverty, I'm sure in a country as easy and great as America this guy should be able to figure it out.
The deal here is: There has to be enough pressure put on families like this, that they adapt to changing society due to economic realities - *without* knocking them sideways out of the box. And they need valid avenues of transition.
But if we give-in as a society to every individual's reluctance to change with the times, we'd never move ahead as a society! We'd be back in the dark ages! Otherwise, to economically continue in ways that don't work, we're just providing another form of welfare - and we have more than enough welfare in this country!
As a father, I see it as this guy's responsibility to be smart, think, and plan ahead to accomplish what's in the best interest of his family. In both my grandfathers' case, it involved leaving war-torn Europe for America! In my father's case, it was working like a dog (7A-11P 6 days!) to finance and assist my mother in starting her own business so they could be self-reliant and independent, allowing them to own a house & educate their children. And in my case, it was much more humble: I moved my family out of my badly failing neighborhood deep in the city, into the best suburb I could attain - giving my wife & kids a quiet peaceful safe life, with excellent education and quality of life. This is as men, what we do. This is the American story.
So this guy's crying falls on deaf ears, with me. We need to give him some transitional help obviously, but after that the rest is up to him. If the men in my family could successfully flee war and poverty, I'm sure in a country as easy and great as America this guy should be able to figure it out.
Clinton confronted by laid-off coal worker at West Virginia campaign stop | Fox News
Why do these people think their families are more important than the environment? It just boggles my mind that people can be so selfish and not see the big picture?
Does solar power work? Nope.
Does wind power work? Nope.
Does the left demand they shutdown? Nope. The argument, as I hear it, is that long term interests demand that we sink money into making them work.
Does coal power work? Yes.
Is clean coal under development? Yes.
Does the left demand it shutdown? Yes. For some reason, the long term interest in using cheap, clean burning coal is not socially acceptable.
Do you think political agendas for AGW and lies about the coal industries are more important than good paying US jobs?
The sad fact of life is that sometimes not everyone can be saved.
For Example: When DDT was banned many people died from increased malaria infections. Obviously that's a bad thing, but what would happen if we continued to spray DDT all over the place? It could do catastrophic ecological damage. Personally, I blame greedy corporations that don't care about curing diseases of poor people but that's beside the point. When you act irresponsibly to the planet you put yourself in a position where some people will have to be thrown overboard to keep the ship from sinking.
Fortunately these people in appalachia don't have to be completely thrown under the bus. We can provide them with vouchers to help them leave their homes. Putting these people in more progressive and diverse communities with more opportunities will be good for them.
All of the "facts" behind Hillary's anti-coal could very well be nothing but BS..
Clinton confronted by laid-off coal worker at West Virginia campaign stop | Fox News
Why do these people think their families are more important than the environment? It just boggles my mind that people can be so selfish and not see the big picture?
Dead on.Why does Hillary...and leftists like you...care so little about the livelihood of the citizens of the US? It just boggles my mind that she cares more about her "clean energy" buddies despite the big picture of thousands of people getting tossed out of work.
Clinton confronted by laid-off coal worker at West Virginia campaign stop | Fox News
Why do these people think their families are more important than the environment? It just boggles my mind that people can be so selfish and not see the big picture?
The deal here is: There has to be enough pressure put on families like this, that they adapt to changing society due to economic realities - *without* knocking them sideways out of the box. And they need valid avenues of transition.
But if we give-in as a society to every individual's reluctance to change with the times, we'd never move ahead as a society! We'd be back in the dark ages! Otherwise, to economically continue in ways that don't work, we're just providing another form of welfare - and we have more than enough welfare in this country!
As a father, I see it as this guy's responsibility to be smart, think, and plan ahead to accomplish what's in the best interest of his family. In both my grandfathers' case, it involved leaving war-torn Europe for America! In my father's case, it was working like a dog (7A-11P 6 days!) to finance and assist my mother in starting her own business so they could be self-reliant and independent, allowing them to own a house & educate their children. And in my case, it was much more humble: I moved my family out of my badly failing neighborhood deep in the city, into the best suburb I could attain - giving my wife & kids a quiet peaceful safe life, with excellent education and quality of life. This is as men, what we do. This is the American story.
So this guy's crying falls on deaf ears, with me. We need to give him some transitional help obviously, but after that the rest is up to him. If the men in my family could successfully flee war and poverty, I'm sure in a country as easy and great as America this guy should be able to figure it out.
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