Clinton Foundation Under Heat as Trump Urges Immediate Close

[j-mac]

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump called Monday for the Clinton Foundation to shut down immediately as questions about the philanthropy dog Democrat Hillary Clinton’s campaign.“The Clintons have spent decades as insiders lining their own pockets and taking care of donors instead of the American people,” Trump said in a statement. “It is now clear that the Clinton Foundation is the most corrupt enterprise in political history.”
Trump is the latest critic to say the foundation’s plan to bar foreign and corporate donations if Clinton is elected president in November, which was announced Thursday, doesn’t go far enough.


Clinton Foundation Under Heat as Trump Urges Immediate Close - Bloomberg Politics

She has taken money from 'big corporation', dictators, foreign countries, and more to sell access to the SoS....Now, she is going to continue to 'sell access' to a possible POTUS....The corrupt skank needs to be stopped.

 

[AliHajiSheik]

She has taken money from 'big corporation', dictators, foreign countries, and more to sell access to the SoS....Now, she is going to continue to 'sell access' to a possible POTUS....The corrupt skank needs to be stopped.

The Medici Family Foundation sees no reason why the Clinton Family Foundation should close.

 

[American]

It's Bloomberg, they aren't reputable are they?

 

[EvaPeron]

She has taken money from 'big corporation', dictators, foreign countries, and more to sell access to the SoS....Now, she is going to continue to 'sell access' to a possible POTUS....The corrupt skank needs to be stopped.

I just wonder why so many on this site do not answer why it is acceptable that the Clinton's who left the white house "broke" are now worth over 100 million dollars and all they have to show for it is a not for profit Foundation. They didn't work, they don't run a business other than the foundation and so how is it that they have accumulated so much wealth and how do those on this site justify it? I mean really justify it? Isn't a not for profit foundation a foundation that doesn't earn a profit? Or is that just another scam for a while to have the Clinton's funnel money from a not for profit to themselves? The whole thing is really messed up if ANYONE would stop to think about it.

 

[j-mac]

The Medici Family Foundation sees no reason why the Clinton Family Foundation should close.

Do you think it should close?

 

[j-mac]

It's Bloomberg, they aren't reputable are they?

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

 

[Chomsky]

She has taken money from 'big corporation', dictators, foreign countries, and more to sell access to the SoS....Now, she is going to continue to 'sell access' to a possible POTUS....The corrupt skank needs to be stopped.

The Clinton's have indeed announced they will release themselves from the foundation if she's elected.

I think that's fair enough and the most that could reasonably be expected, even though I too believe the foundation is (at least in part) used to garner influence.

 

[j-mac]

The Clinton's have indeed announced they will release themselves from the foundation if she's elected.

I think that's fair enough and the most that could reasonably be expected, even though I too believe the foundation is (at least in part) used to garner influence.

Yeah, well she signed a statement saying that there would be a 'firewall' between the foundation and the office of SoS too, we now know that was a lie. So, what makes you believe that these two will separate themselves from their own racket?

 

[ttwtt78640]

I just wonder why so many on this site do not answer why it is acceptable that the Clinton's who left the white house "broke" are now worth over 100 million dollars and all they have to show for it is a not for profit Foundation. They didn't work, they don't run a business other than the foundation and so how is it that they have accumulated so much wealth and how do those on this site justify it? I mean really justify it? Isn't a not for profit foundation a foundation that doesn't earn a profit? Or is that just another scam for a while to have the Clinton's funnel money from a not for profit to themselves? The whole thing is really messed up if ANYONE would stop to think about it.

Speaking fees, retirement/investment income and book sales count too. Of course, it sure helps to have low friends in high places.

 

[Chomsky]

Yeah, well she signed a statement saying that there would be a 'firewall' between the foundation and the office of SoS too, we now know that was a lie. So, what makes you believe that these two will separate themselves from their own racket?

Well, there is no proof they will indeed separate themselves from their foundation.

But it's not too easy, smart, or right, to force the closure of a private entity by government - at least not without any legal proof of wrongdoing.

It's a fine line here, and I think separation of them from it during her tenure would be the most reasonable.

But lack of legal proof (of wrongdoing) can be over-run in the court-of-public-opinion though, by simply not voting for her!

 

[robertblake60]

They didn't work, they don't run a business other than the foundation and so how is it that they have accumulated so much wealth and how do those on this site justify it?

I can't tell if you're joking or not, but in case you aren't....

1) former presidents continue to collect a pension valuing over $200,000/yr
2) Hillary was a senator for 8 years and secretary of state for 4 years (both of those are considered "work" in America, and both positions paid ~$200,000/yr)
3) Both Bill and Hillary Clinton have written several books that have been New York Time's Best Sellers (author is also considered 'work'). These books bring in millions in royalties each year.
4) And I'm sure you're aware of the speaking fees that both Bill and Hillary have made (Bill a lot longer than Hillary). This total alone is over $10 million a year as a couple.

They collect zero money from the Clinton foundation, none. This foundation must be the most investigated out of every charity out there and if any money was being transferred, I'm sure you'd hear about it.

 

[Mycroft]

I just wonder why so many on this site do not answer why it is acceptable that the Clinton's who left the white house "broke" are now worth over 100 million dollars and all they have to show for it is a not for profit Foundation. They didn't work, they don't run a business other than the foundation and so how is it that they have accumulated so much wealth and how do those on this site justify it? I mean really justify it? Isn't a not for profit foundation a foundation that doesn't earn a profit? Or is that just another scam for a while to have the Clinton's funnel money from a not for profit to themselves? The whole thing is really messed up if ANYONE would stop to think about it.

The answer is simple. Supply and demand.

All of the Clintons work for their foundation. Even a non-profit organization is allowed to pay their employees. Since the Clintons are so good at what they do, they command a very high salary...in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

It's the American way, after all.


(just so there is no misunderstanding, everyone should know that I'm being sarcastic here)

 

[robertblake60]

All of the Clintons work for their foundation. Even a non-profit organization is allowed to pay their employees. Since the Clintons are so good at what they do, they command a very high salary...in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

You know that the foundation doesn't actually pay the Clinton's any salary right? That type of information is required to be disclosed and the Clinton's do not earn any money from the foundation. At all.

 

[Mycroft]

You know that the foundation doesn't actually pay the Clinton's any salary right? That type of information is required to be disclosed and the Clinton's do not earn any money from the foundation. At all.

You DO know that I was being sarcastic in my post, don't you? I mean, I said so at the bottom of my post. (which you deleted from your quote for some reason :roll

 

[eohrnberger]

The Clinton's have indeed announced they will release themselves from the foundation if she's elected.

I think that's fair enough and the most that could reasonably be expected, even though I too believe the foundation is (at least in part) used to garner influence.

Yeah, well she signed a statement saying that there would be a 'firewall' between the foundation and the office of SoS too, we now know that was a lie. So, what makes you believe that these two will separate themselves from their own racket?

Indeed the point I was going to make.

If intermingling POTUS business and the Clinton Foundation is unacceptable, why would it intermingling SoS business and the Clinton Foundation as being acceptable even in the slightest? Sounds to me like possible criminal violation, ethics and conflicts of interest violations at least.

 

[Erod]

I can't tell if you're joking or not, but in case you aren't....

1) former presidents continue to collect a pension valuing over $200,000/yr
2) Hillary was a senator for 8 years and secretary of state for 4 years (both of those are considered "work" in America, and both positions paid ~$200,000/yr)
3) Both Bill and Hillary Clinton have written several books that have been New York Time's Best Sellers (author is also considered 'work'). These books bring in millions in royalties each year.
4) And I'm sure you're aware of the speaking fees that both Bill and Hillary have made (Bill a lot longer than Hillary). This total alone is over $10 million a year as a couple.

They collect zero money from the Clinton foundation, none. This foundation must be the most investigated out of every charity out there and if any money was being transferred, I'm sure you'd hear about it.

If you don't see the Clinton Foundation for what it is - a money-laundering operation - then you're not trying very hard.

 

[American]

I'd like to see an FBI raid on the foundation, busting down doors and frog-marching officials out of that den of corruption.

 

[Chomsky]

Indeed the point I was going to make.

If intermingling POTUS business and the Clinton Foundation is unacceptable, why would it intermingling SoS business and the Clinton Foundation as being acceptable even in the slightest? Sounds to me like possible criminal violation, ethics and conflicts of interest violations at least.

Good point.

The foundation is at the very least, a potential conflict of interest.

 

[eohrnberger]

Good point.

The foundation is at the very least, a potential conflict of interest.

(Told you I get along quite well with reasonable people - :mrgreen: -)

 

[robertblake60]

If you don't see the Clinton Foundation for what it is - a money-laundering operation - then you're not trying very hard.

"A money laundering operation" that benefits the Clinton's how exactly?

If they don't receive any income from the foundation (they don't), and you can see their last 39 years of tax returns online with income statements, AND they've probably the most investigated couple on the planet....I'm really curious what nefarious things you think the Clinton's are doing with this "money laundering operation".

 

[chuckiechan]

The Clinton's have indeed announced they will release themselves from the foundation if she's elected.

I think that's fair enough and the most that could reasonably be expected, even though I too believe the foundation is (at least in part) used to garner influence.

All that does is create a rush to pour money into the Clinton Foundation and her campaign to get influence before the door closes. The problem is Clinton misdeeds aren't a one off error in judgement. These "issues" are organic to The Clintons. They will probably just open up a Chelsea Clinton Foundation.

Plus, much influence has already been bought and baked into the cake.

Maybe we are making too big of a deal about corruption. Maybe our views are out of date and we should just accept it as a part of governance.

 

[CanadaJohn]

The Clinton's have indeed announced they will release themselves from the foundation if she's elected.

I think that's fair enough and the most that could reasonably be expected, even though I too believe the foundation is (at least in part) used to garner influence.

Serious question - do you believe that Chelsey Clinton will be giving up her directorship with the foundation if her mother is elected and if not, do you think child and parents will never speak of Foundation issues while parents are in the White House?

 

[ttwtt78640]

Good point.

The foundation is at the very least, a potential conflict of interest.

As opposed to the very real, yet often ignored, confllcts of interest "earned" by speaking fees.

About 60% of Hillary and Bill Clinton's income comes from speeches - Aug. 12, 2016

Sorry, Bill and Hillary, but the law says we can't just give you $250K - you have to actually earn it by talking to (for?) us for an hour or so.

That's a non-issue," political strategist Maria Cardona told CNN Friday. She says there's nothing anyone can point to showing that these speeches influenced Clinton's policy decisions and votes.

Of course the speeches had no influence - but maybe the cash did.

 

[ludin]

I just wonder why so many on this site do not answer why it is acceptable that the Clinton's who left the white house "broke" are now worth over 100 million dollars and all they have to show for it is a not for profit Foundation. They didn't work, they don't run a business other than the foundation and so how is it that they have accumulated so much wealth and how do those on this site justify it? I mean really justify it? Isn't a not for profit foundation a foundation that doesn't earn a profit? Or is that just another scam for a while to have the Clinton's funnel money from a not for profit to themselves? The whole thing is really messed up if ANYONE would stop to think about it.

If you follow the money trail they started getting paid huge amount of dollars in speaking fee's when she became SOS.

companies, businesses, other countries were paying 400-500k+ dollars for Bill to give a speech for 30 minutes.

who friggen does that?

 

[bubbabgone]

She has taken money from 'big corporation', dictators, foreign countries, and more to sell access to the SoS....Now, she is going to continue to 'sell access' to a possible POTUS....The corrupt skank needs to be stopped.

There's a similar thread that became a deep discussion of Hillary's use of her office to satisfy Russia's (Putin's) drive for global control of Uranium deposits while satisfying her & Bill's quest for big bucks.
At this moment there's absolute refusal to acknowledge the evidence that Hillary and Bill were bought.
When partisanship can influence logic & ethics to that extent it doesn't bode well for society.