Yeah, so...? Means about 1 American had their life ended early for every 6 slaves freed into black codes, jim crow, kkk, segregation... your point?Here's another lil factoid re: Civil War soldiers - both North and South.
If you took all the enlistments combined
Facts - The Civil War (U.S. National Park Service)
...it still is less than the total slave population during the Civil War.
How stupid are those thoughts? I mean really, are you faking this obtuseness or...?
Economics, study economics.
Hardly. But I am not willing to waste more time to explain something to someone that will not think for themselves. Someone who has no sense of complexity, sees only what the master tells them to see, has no inner curiosity to discover... and is comfortable that way.
Yes, Stevens was ONE man that said something extemporaneously... and so you should, we all should blindly just accept that, not study the history, not look at the Declarations of Cause, just take that one statement, disregard all his others as well and all because it fits well the accepted confirmation bias. Accept without further investigation that sure, that was all there was, nothing else, no overreach by the Feds, no taking sides with the Northern manufacturing, banking and shipping interests, no protective tariff problem, nah, that is all hokum, never really happened. They just put it in all those little items in those important documents, fairly simultaneously, because they were all in cahoots, trying to hoodwink the thorough historians who actually study the documents, understand the times.
Well, with your limited powers of observation and nuance, I am sure that is the picture you paint in your mind. You refuse to look at the whole picture and want to blame me for recognizing that fact.
You have been wrong all the way up to this point, why would you suddenly be right now?
READ THE THREAD BUDDY.You can't answer the questions. Admit it. We can all see you floundering.
You can't say what would have happened to the 4 million slaves, in some states that were MAJORITY slave populations --
And your simplistic "economics" as some sort of response is beyond laughable.
Slaves were high value property. Literally billions. More than a third of Southern households owned slaves. The secession documents themselves show the Southerners valuing their slaves at four billion. (then dollars, not price adjusted).
And they most definitely weren't going to give them up.
Their whole goal was expansion.
Slavery was literally the lifeblood of the South. Now think of those slaves like you do your car (in today terms) -- You PAID for it.
A major purchase.
In what world do these millions of property owning families -- with billions of dollars of property -- just say, meh, so what if the free market values you at thousands (yes, that was the going price in the 60's -- not price adjusted for that time --actual price) !
So what? Imma just gonna let you free. ?? [Or in car terms, here, I'm gonna just say goodbye car. So what if you're worth thousands...]
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. In no world does that happen.
And just in case you doubted me the going price of slaves in the 1860's -- here, this is from my Archives, from a Southern Newspaper:
So you imagine millions would give up billions of property -- is that it?
Or what? Just say: Economics.
Again?
You are in way over your head, and you should consider backing out if you wish to maintain face....it's quite obvious.
The tariffs had been historically low. You should know this. The Morrill tariff would likely not have passed if the southern ****ers had not left the damn congress after Lincoln had been elected.
How about you quit talking down to me? I have 3 decades in the direct field of history, as a profession and it's obvious you are plucking out your Lost Cause jumbo like a teenager after reading "The South Was Right."
Let cut this roast...
There were 393,975 slaveowners.
A bit over half of those 9 million were free whites.
Nearly 4 million slaves.
Now, follow me here: There were only a little over one million families in the South.
That's all. One million families.
Break that down in your calculating bubble.
Hell, there was only a little over 5 million families in the entire US in 1860.
Does that figure stun you?
When you consider more than one on four rebels who took up arms against the North came from slaveholding families (and one in two in a few other states) it presents a different picture.
One could say, yes, well, those were families - just because pop owned the slave, doesn't mean the boys did too.
However, that slave labor on their property, in some form or another, helped provide them food, shelter and money, and also helped formulate their future wealth they could, and most often did, inherit.
Slave labor provided so much of just about everything when it came to the commerce of the South.
And you've yet to show HOW slavery was "dying out" and how these people who owned 4 BILLION dollars worth of wealth wer going to just give it up -- because Lincoln tried compensated emancipation with the border state, a locale where slavery was not nearly as enmeshed as the deep south, and they would have none of it.
They wanted to KEEP their slaves. And were willing to die to the bloody death to maintain and expand it.
The tariffs had been historically low. You should know this. The Morrill tariff would likely not have passed if the southern ****ers had not left the damn congress after Lincoln had been elected.
Here's a graph to gaze your eyes up, next time you think about saying it was the South who was more affected by tariffs.
Just who was paying the bulk of the tariff revenues?
Keep repeating the mantra, or try being the little train that could if it pleases you. I cannot make the blind see, I can only offer what is obvious and those that choose sight are welcome aboard.
Subtract the Reserved Powers promised as part of the contract to ratify...and/or add strict adherence to the Enumerated Powers and, Viola', no Civil War.