Garberding gave an interview to FoxNews last September. There is no mention of the employees or the arbitration on the Chrysler website. So when exactly were the employees supposedly reinstated?I guess if you ignore Chrysler's own head of manufacturing, Scott Garberding, commenting on Chrysler's own website and cited by the Huff Po and Workforce, both linked by nota bene, you could rather feebly claim Fox News is the only source. It would be rather idiotic and demonstrative of a pretty short attention span to do so, but if the Kool Aid is strong enough I guess that can trump common sense. I generally find that those focused and fixated upon anti Fox News screeds and the cornucopia of rather pathetic websites also focused on the same thing, suffer from a rather limiting and myopic vision. You could say without them, there would be so much less "filler" content of countless debate boards.
Ah well, some folks just can't see the forest through the trees. End of the day, the story is real and yet another idiotic "Fox is lying" bromide bites the dust.
This just gets more asinine the further along it goes. Maybe you should go back to the Chrysler website and try to read it? Maybe take two or three dozen tries at it, ya know the reading? Read the reply to the supposedly not reliably true story that was posted by Garberding today? What part of the plainly printed English is it that you can't grasp? Don't worry, we have not been confused by any of this at any point along the way, so your struggles with the obvious should be amusing. But actually it is just kind of pathetic. Strong strong Kool Aid must be the cause. Because otherwise the answer is none too complementary.Garberding gave an interview to FoxNews last September. There is no mention of the employees or the arbitration on the Chrysler website. So when exactly were the employees supposedly reinstated?
Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated | Fox News
So we the taxpayers bail out theunionscar companies, employees are caught drinking on their lunch break, going back to work under the influence, are fired and now they get their jobs back? And some wonder why anyone has a problem with unions?
I'm not sure the coverage of this story really had anything to do with the bailout. My understanding at the time it was aired was that it was from an anonymous tip to the news station. We have seen several stories like this over the years here locally, workers on their lunch gathering behind a plant and getting high and drinking and then going back to work under the influence. In one case a few years ago local news snoopers were able to film some city employees availing themselves of the services of prostitutes at a public park on their lunch hour! Of course in those cases no arbitrator sided with the employees and gave them their jobs back. In any case, this kind of story does very little to boost or improve the standing of many unions to many people. In fact you could say it bolsters their case. It should be interesting to see the fall out and results of this story as it grows in the public conciseness.I can't help but wonder why no one else is checking into what all the other bailout and semi-supported company employees do on their breaks.
I have a hard time imagining that only auto-assembly workers *ever* do *anything* that's considered *wrong*
Everyone - is a hypocrite - for the harping.
I'm not sure the coverage of this story really had anything to do with the bailout. My understanding at the time it was aired was that it was from an anonymous tip to the news station. We have seen several stories like this over the years here locally, workers on their lunch gathering behind a plant and getting high and drinking and then going back to work under the influence. In one case a few years ago local news snoopers were able to film some city employees availing themselves of the services of prostitutes at a public park on their lunch hour! Of course in those cases no arbitrator sided with the employees and gave them their jobs back. In any case, this kind of story does very little to boost or improve the standing of many unions to many people. In fact you could say it bolsters their case. It should be interesting to see the fall out and results of this story as it grows in the public conciseness.
Actually nope, the original reporting on this had nothing to do with the bailouts as the links in this thread prove. The attaching of this story to the bailouts and 'look what they are doing' comes from the author of the OP and others after the fact.No - nips like this have been going on since the bailouts began: because of the bailouts (as is evident from the journalistic harping on the 'we bailed them out and look what they're doing) over the years.
You have to wonder why you have a problem with due process.
Toyota recently had a lot of recalls for defective cars. Now I can't help but wonder if all their non-union employees were drunk and stoned when they built all those cars.I don't have to wonder anything. The employees were caught drinking on their lunch break, period. Assuming that this is a violation of company policy, this should be a terminable offense. I would get fired from my job if I was caught drinking on my break and I'm not building vehicles that your family may be traveling in at a high rate of speed. I would get fired from my job if I was caught drinking on my break and I'm not operating heavy machinery that could cause injury to others. Now if this is not a violation of company policy, I would have to wonder why isn't it, unless the union is OK with this - which it appears as though they are since they filed a grievance.
Anonymous tips, anonymous employees, anonymous quotes, anonymous arbitration, anonymous reinstatements....the only thing that isn't anonymous about this story is that it came from FoxNews.I'm not sure the coverage of this story really had anything to do with the bailout. My understanding at the time it was aired was that it was from an anonymous tip to the news station. We have seen several stories like this over the years here locally, workers on their lunch gathering behind a plant and getting high and drinking and then going back to work under the influence. In one case a few years ago local news snoopers were able to film some city employees availing themselves of the services of prostitutes at a public park on their lunch hour! Of course in those cases no arbitrator sided with the employees and gave them their jobs back. In any case, this kind of story does very little to boost or improve the standing of many unions to many people. In fact you could say it bolsters their case. It should be interesting to see the fall out and results of this story as it grows in the public conciseness.
I can't help but wonder why no one else is checking into what all the other bailout and semi-supported company employees do on their breaks.
I have a hard time imagining that only auto-assembly workers *ever* do *anything* that's considered *wrong*
Everyone - is a hypocrite - for the harping.
Anonymous tips, anonymous employees, anonymous quotes, anonymous arbitration, anonymous reinstatements....the only thing that isn't anonymous about this story is that it came from FoxNews.
The story "came" from news reporters catching the employees drinking and smoking pot on their lunch break, a local Fox affiliate was who reported it. I did not see that you had actually wanted to claim the original story was not real, of course that would be idiotic. Meanwhile, you managed to ignore the following statement from Scott Garberding, posted today, not from September of last year. It literally debunks your entire asinine argument.Anonymous tips, anonymous employees, anonymous quotes, anonymous arbitration, anonymous reinstatements....the only thing that isn't anonymous about this story is that it came from FoxNews.
She has already been shown that HUffPo story, which contains the very same link I just supplied her with. She managed to just double down on her idiotic claim, almost as if not only can't she read the English too well, but she has a mantra about Fox News and that gets in the way of, well reading and thinking too critically about the matter.You're not taking full advantage of the internet. Chrysler Workers Drinking: Fired Employees Reinstated At Jefferson North Plant In Detroit
That says to me the union made some kind of deal and the plant held their nose.
The workers in the lant wanted them gone.
Does that sound like they were not affected by their drugs and booze?
From MyFoxDetroit, which first broke the drinking-on-the-job story, a quote by a Chrysler spokesperson:
"Chrysler Group LLC acknowledges the reinstatement of a number of employees from the Jefferson North assembly plant who were discharged from the company in September 2010 after appearing in a local TV station's story about their off-duty conduct."
I don't have to wonder anything. The employees were caught drinking on their lunch break, period. Assuming that this is a violation of company policy, this should be a terminable offense. I would get fired from my job if I was caught drinking on my break and I'm not building vehicles that your family may be traveling in at a high rate of speed. I would get fired from my job if I was caught drinking on my break and I'm not operating heavy machinery that could cause injury to others. Now if this is not a violation of company policy, I would have to wonder why isn't it, unless the union is OK with this - which it appears as though they are since they filed a grievance.
There is a process to handle allegations such as these. Apparently that process was followed.
There is a process to handle allegations such as these. Apparently that process was followed.
Those laws are only as good as the people enforcing them.Yes, at one times Unions were a good thing until they became Big Business and overrun by racketeers. Now they will be supported by the Democrats, and vice versa.
These days there are laws to protect working people, and of course good reliable workers will always be at a premium.
The UNION was bailed out, not the car company. What does this have to do with negotiation.....duh the criminals were caught red handed doping and drinking during business hours. Not even prostitutes during business hours are permitted to do that!!!!!!!!!What does this have to do with the bailout, looks like a negotiation between the union and the company.
that is an opinion you have, do you have any facts? remember, you guys are the ones who wanted facts and not opinions so please don't expect me to give up my opinions and rationalizations in the argument when you cannot post facts.
The UNION was bailed out, not the car company. What does this have to do with negotiation.....duh the criminals were caught red handed doping and drinking during business hours. Not even prostitutes during business hours are permitted to do that!!!!!!!!!
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