Gov. Chris Christie plans to sign a bill Monday barring licensed therapists from trying to turn gay teenagers straight, making New Jersey the second state to ban so-called conversion therapy, along with California.
The bill passed both houses of the New Jersey Legislature with bipartisan support in June. Assemblyman Tim Eustace, who sponsored the bill and is openly gay, described the therapy as “an insidious form of child abuse.”
Gay activists pushing the ban were uncertain what Christie would do.
In a signing note accompanying the bill that will be made public Monday, Christie said he believes people are born gay and that homosexuality is not a sin. That view is inconsistent with his Catholic faith.
There's already a thread in the Sex & Sexuality forum about the Governor's signing of the anti-gay conversion therapy bill, so there is, strictly speaking, probably no need for this thread. Uncommented on in that thread, however, was this aspect of Christie's statement, which I find much more pertinent than the legislation itself:
This almost assuredly kills his chances in the 2016 primary, when the likes of Saint Santorum will flood the airwaves with ads extolling this 'proof positive' of Christie's Satanism and nogoodnikism. I look forward to it.
If they have a chance of winning, the GOTP won't support them. Thank god for small favors.He had no chance to get the nomination because he is a tax and spend RHINO with a Holier than thou attitude, unless of course you were referring to the democratic primary in your post.
If they have a chance of winning, the GOTP won't support them. Thank god for small favors.
I never kid about such things. And Obama should have had no chance last time. I do the math and I know the demographics. The GOTP has split the baby because neither side would give so now they both lose, just like they did in November, and they will continue to do so. They would rather be "right" than in power.Clinton won on the anti-reagan era vote; Bush won on the anti-Clinton vote; Obama won on the Anti-Bush vote. Don't kid yourself that the GOP won't win the next election just so long as they can find someone who won't offend the middle. That is not Christie.
I never kid about such things. And Obama should have had no chance last time. I do the math and I know the demographics. The GOTP has split the baby because neither side would give so now they both lose, just like they did in November, and they will continue to do so. They would rather be "right" than in power.
I'm sure they will but the numbers and trends are going their way, not the least of which is the fact that the GOP can't find its butt with both hands. The Party of No is not a winner in America.And neither do I. I used to work with election targeting data for a living. That I do not get technical or academic in my posts does not mean that I am talking out my butthole. I have a basis for saying what I said. Re-election campaigns are not the same dynamic as no-incumbent elections. The dems will have the harder road in 2016.
I'm sure they will but the numbers and trends are going their way, not the least of which is the fact that the GOP can't find it's butt with both hands. The Party of No is not a winner in America.
I rely on neither so you are excused.Clearly since they control the House and most of the states they are utter failure. Here is a clue: do not rely on MSNBC or the democratic underground for your information.
And neither do I. I used to work with election targeting data for a living. That I do not get technical or academic in my posts does not mean that I am talking out my butthole. I have a basis for saying what I said. Re-election campaigns are not the same dynamic as no-incumbent elections. The dems will have the harder road in 2016.
I rely on neither so you are excused.
It's not line from her. I was watching US politics when she was watching Sesame Street. There is no candidate the right will approve of that can win the middle and the left anymore. They are that reactionary. It's why Obama won, twice.Well you are not. Anybody who throws out a Rachel Maddow line about the GOP being in ruins and unelectable who wants to have a serious conversation about the GOP in 2016 should rethink how they want to present that.
Regardless of demographic trends?
He had no chance to get the nomination because he is a tax and spend RHINO with a Holier than thou attitude, unless of course you were referring to the democratic primary in your post.
It's not line from her. I watching US politics when she was watching Sesame Street. There is no candidate the right will approve of that can win the middle and the left anymore. They are that reactionary. It's why Obama won, twice.
at least his state isn't a moocher state like Paul's is ...
Had he been running against who the right approved of, he would have won by that much more.:lol: Obama won twice against men whom the right didn't approve of. In 2008, though, Obama won on the anti-Bush vote, it had little to do with McCain.
...In a signing note accompanying the bill that will be made public Monday, Christie said he believes people are born gay and that homosexuality is not a sin. That view is inconsistent with his Catholic faith...
Which demographic trends are you speaking of-- The ones that allowed a white republican to hold onto a House seat in a minority majority, democratic leaning congressional district in New Mexico for far too long because Hispanics do not vote in numbers proportional to their population or because centrist can be easily swayed by advertising dollars that said person had dump trucks full of, especially when they are negative ads?
Had he been running against who the right approved of, he would have won by that much more.
No, because I never said that.So you abandon your previous claim that Obama won because he was running against people of whom the right approved?
it is also worth noting that this portion of the OP is false. Catholicism does not hold that homosexuality itself is sinful any more than any other temptation is sinful - it holds that homosexual acts are sinful.
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