Men and women both enjoy sex. We all know that. But what's interesting is how the data tells us that men and women experience sex, differently.
Is there such a thing as a non-artificial or "natural" social policy? The policy exists in order to help children in single-parent homes avoid extreme poverty. Of course this can be abused, but to imply it was created to give women an extra tight grasp on a man's balls doesn't really follow.
In a legal setting, just like an extralegal setting, child support is patronage, plain and simple. You can color it any way you like. Women do not have a grasp on men's balls. However, women often do have an illegitimate grasp on men's finances, by proxy of the state. The difference, in my opinion, is within the extralegal setting. Child support statistics I have previously cited have been from census data and other sources which track child support orders. But child support arrangements can be settled outside of court. Sometimes, this means that a child is extremely well off, and sometimes it means that a bastard child receives nothing from his or her absent parent (usually the father). A support arrangement in which the child is well off might generally fall into two categories: voluntary patronage and extortion. How does this impact society? Do patrons seek out other patrons, and do the extorted seek to extort other people?
The legal application of child support orders is arranged so as to isolate and "protect" parties from one another, and in that sense it is divisive. In short, it is unnatural because men do not have a choice in the matter, as they do in many other consequences of sex. I do not place human beings in the same category as sexually transmitted diseases, even if there is a lack of knowledge in some cases by which disease and/or sperm is implanted. In an economy, an unknown exchange is not justification for extortion, or exploitation. We are human beings, not viruses or cancers, and we should act as such. But I digress.
So what exactly is it that you're proposing? We eliminate all child support and let fatherless children nationwide just starve and deal with the abject poverty? What happened to the concept of personal responsibility? If you bring a child into the world it is your responsibility to feed and take care of it. Trying to sidestep these responsibilities by comparing child support to extortion is hyperbole.
Don't want the responsibility of taking care of a child? Don't have a child. There are more than enough contraceptive measures that both men and women can take their reproductive decisions into their own hands. Personal responsibility: not for everyone apparently.
Fun fact: The responsibility you're talking about doesn't naturally exist. It's actually created from societies exceptions and law, which can of course both be changed.
Of course it can, but you're the only one here who thinks all society and government is a bad thing. Don't want to participate in society? Don't. Go live in the woods by yourself and keep your semen out of women if you're not willing to accept the responsibilities that come with those choices.
What if we didn't oppress and enslave men to be "responsible," aka acquiesce to the whims of politicians who believe women who give birth should be subsidized by men. This isn't "**** you, pay me," this is "**** you, pay her," and it's not noble. This is not hyperbole, simply by pretending that some responsibility which does not naturally exist, exists. Men who are fathers are sometimes extorted, and no, I don't have any data to support the notion that some fathers are robbed for the purpose of another man feeding his children. It's a complex social matter and potential for abuse in the form of extortion does exist.So what exactly is it that you're proposing? We eliminate all child support and let fatherless children nationwide just starve and deal with the abject poverty? What happened to the concept of personal responsibility? If you bring a child into the world it is your responsibility to feed and take care of it. Trying to sidestep these responsibilities by comparing child support to extortion is hyperbole.
Don't want the responsibility of taking care of a child? Don't have a child. There are more than enough contraceptive measures that both men and women can take their reproductive decisions into their own hands. Personal responsibility: not for everyone apparently.
Of course it can, but you're the only one here who thinks all society and government is a bad thing. Don't want to participate in society? Don't. Go live in the woods by yourself and keep your semen out of women if you're not willing to accept the responsibilities that come with those choices.
What happened to the concept of personal responsibility? If you bring a child into the world it is your responsibility to feed and take care of it. Trying to sidestep these responsibilities by comparing child support to extortion is hyperbole.
Don't want the responsibility of taking care of a child? Don't have a child. There are more than enough contraceptive measures that both men and women can take their reproductive decisions into their own hands. Personal responsibility: not for everyone apparently.
Thankfully, I haven't. Turns out it's MRA nonsense.
OK, I basically wiped what I wrote. The better response is:
1) The Red Pill is thataway ----->
2) Pay your damned child support.
OK, I basically wiped what I wrote. The better response is:
1) The Red Pill is thataway ----->
2) Pay your damned child support.
Or men can simply refuse and force the states hand to change the ****ing law.
Btw, you should check the number of men in jail for it. Looks like many men aren't playing along with your desire to make them slaves to the will of women.
As strongly as you advocate personal responsibility and holding people's feet to the fire I'm surprised to see you take this stance. If you don't want to accept the consequences of your actions visit Rosie when you have the urge.
Doesn't anybody here know of some women paying child support? I do.....
The real crime is in the increased taxes that responsible people pay to support the children who have been abandoned by a parent, or even both parents, like my father.
your response seems to completely ignore the reality of the world.
the women ultimately has the say on bringing the child into the world. She can choose to not do so, and face no financial repercussions at all.
so you are completely pro-choice?
how in the hell does that pertain?
since you feel like trolling the thread - I feel individual states determine/define self defense laws.
Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
your response seems to completely ignore the reality of the world.
the women ultimately has the say on bringing the child into the world. She can choose to not do so, and face no financial repercussions at all.
WTF? you don't like what I asked of you so I am trolling? :lamo friggin UNbelieveable...cornered yourself didn't ya?
oh yeah ya did....you can't have it both ways buddy!!
yeahyour reading comprehension is truly bad. I feel sorry for those that waste their time. I'm smarter then that though.
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