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What's organized about some lone guy getting into a fist fight?
I guess it's alright to attack someone then as long as you don't hate them.
Being a victim of a hate crime and not having the prosecutor charge the perp with a hate crime for his hate-crime attack on you is a pretty hollow honor.
I'm always eager to learn new things. You made a definitive statement that middle-aged, hetero, white males have been victims of hate crimes. This surely indicates that you have actually know this to be true. Would you please link up some evidence in support of your position.
Ronald Russo, 30, and his wife, Alanna, apparently had the green light and the husband honked at the group to get out of the way. The rowdy kids started kicking the car, according to the criminal complaint. Ronald Russo got out to check on potential damage to his vehicle.
And that’s when all hell broke loose.
Ronald Russo was dragged to the ground. Then he was punched and kicked in the head. He felt more blows all over his body, investigators said. He suffered a fractured nose, a broken septum, a blood clot and abrasions to his shoulder. He was treated and released from Beth Israel Medical Center.
Kirton, 18, of East Flatbush, who has no prior arrests, faces gang assault, harassment and menacing charges, all as hate crimes. He was released on $50,000 bond.
Hate crime charges have been dropped against the two black teens who allegedly pummeled a white Brooklyn couple while yelling racial slurs at them, the Daily News has learned.
Law enforcement sources said a grand jury declined to indict Kashawn Kirton, 18, and Daehrell Finch, 17, both of Brooklyn, on hate crime charges in the Oct. 14 attack on Ronald Russo and his wife, Alanna, both 30, on Avenue U near E. 58th St. in Mill Basin.
Hate crime charges dropped against black teens accused of beating white Brooklyn couple - NY Daily News
Sorry, your example fails....10 days after the article you post here, a follow up...
SO what?
He didn't ask for an example of someone who was convicted of a hate crime.
He spoke about prosecutors charging a perp for a hate crime against a middle aged, white, hetero, male victim.
This perp was charged by the prosecutor for committing a hate crime
True enough I guess. I suppose my question then would be one where a black perp, was convicted of a hate crime against a white victim....Because in my opinion, it really is meaningless being charged if the charges are dropped a week later.
No, it's not meaningless
Many people claim that hate crimes do not apply to crimes committed against white people. The fact that people are charged (including blacks) with hate crimes against whites proves that this claim is untrue. If someone is not convicted, that doesn't mean that white people can't be victims of a hate crime.
No, it's not meaningless
Many people claim that hate crimes do not apply to crimes committed against white people. The fact that people are charged (including blacks) with hate crimes against whites proves that this claim is untrue. If someone is not convicted, that doesn't mean that white people can't be victims of a hate crime.
It would bolster your opinion if you could provide one that was actually indicted.....
So if a person assaults or murders someone of a different ethnicity WITHOUT saying a word it is just assault or murder, but if the attacker says something like, "You black bitch!" while assaulting or murdering someone (like a black person), then it becomes a hate crime? Is that how it works?
Murder, hate crime charges in death of man who died protecting daughter - chicagotribune.com
I would've thought this type of harassment no longer existed.
It wasn't an opinion; It was fact
If the people on the grand jury didn't want to indict, that doesn't mean that the law doesn't apply to people who attack white men.
It means the GJ disagreed with the prosecutor
If you can't indict the "crime", then you have no crime....It is simple as that.
That seems unlikely to me.Just out of curiosity, are there examples of minorities convicted of hate crimes against whites?
There have been a few, but relatively few.Just out of curiosity, are there examples of minorities convicted of hate crimes against whites?
If enforcement were equal, I would disagree.Increasingly it seems "hate crime" laws are just a way to get round "free speech" for political correctness.
People angry at each other have been calling people the most insulting names possible. You even see it on this forum. Because ethnic slurs and "hate" slurs are the most insulting, when raging people will tend to use them. I don't believe the slur created the hate or the fight. Rather, fights usually come with hate words, because nearly ALL fights have something to do with hate, although there are exceptions.
Just out of curiosity, are there examples of minorities convicted of hate crimes against whites?
That's not the issue
Simple as that
It sure is in our conversation.
"Our" conversation?
As far as I can tell, my part of "our" conversation has been to repeatedly tell you that I wasn't talking about what you've been talking about
True enough I guess. I suppose my question then would be one where a black perp, was convicted of a hate crime against a white victim....Because in my opinion, it really is meaningless being charged if the charges are dropped a week later.
In Long Beach, Calif., a juvenile court judge has convicted eight black girls and one boy of beating three young white women last year. One girl was acquitted of all charges. The defendants range between 12 and 18 years old. The racially charged case included allegations of witness intimidation.
The attack happened last Halloween in an upscale mostly white neighborhood filled with trick-or-treaters.
Prosecutors called it a hate crime because they said the attackers hurled racial slurs at their victims.
In Texas, it was a black man who was dragged to his death behind a pickup truck, and it wasn't that many years ago. It was after that when Texas adopted it's own hate crime enhancement. Even Rick Perry, who hates government, supported that. So do I.
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