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Charges reduced in phone caper at senator's office | National news | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle
NEW ORLEANS — Federal prosecutors filed reduced charges Friday against conservative activist James O'Keefe and three others who were accused of trying to tamper with the phones in Sen. Mary Landrieu's New Orleans office.
The new charges are contained in a bill of information, which can only be filed with a defendant's consent and typically signals a plea deal. The new filing charges videographer the four with entering a federal building under false pretenses, a misdemeanor. They had been arrested Jan. 25 on felony charges.
O'Keefe, a videographer famous for wearing a pimp costume in a stunt that embarrassed the ACORN community organizing group, has said the group was trying to investigate complaints that constituents calling Landrieu's office couldn't get through to criticize her support of a health care reform bill.
Were you there? Or are you just going on ACORN's statements, sorry, but I trust an independent journalist more than a corrupt community organization ATM.What really annoys me is that news organizations are still saying he was "dressed like a pimp" in the now-infamous videos. The media still hasn't managed to pick up on the fact that the videos were edited to show something that didn't happen.
What really annoys me is that news organizations are still saying he was "dressed like a pimp" in the now-infamous videos. The media still hasn't managed to pick up on the fact that the videos were edited to show something that didn't happen.
The OP spins the reduced misdemeanor charges, a plea deal, as “the prosecutors jumped the gun with with the felony charges” initially. I think that is false.
Let's face it, the interest of justice and the state, was not in pinning felony convictions on these four perpetrators, it was in assuring that they and anybody like them understood that what they did was against the law.
The state avoided a lengthy, expensive trial and the defendants avoided the considerable risks of long term incarceration. Such are the nature of plea deals.
Were you there? Or are you just going on ACORN's statements, sorry, but I trust an independent journalist more than a corrupt community organization ATM.
LOL What didn't happen? This should be good
That isn't the same subject. …
… The charges were bogus and only now after the political story is over do we get the truth. …
You're confused.
People don't plea guilty to misdemeanor charges lightly. Typically in plea deals it's because they are lowering their risks of far more severe penalties that could be assigned by an expensive criminal trial over more severe charges. The prosecution didn't see the value in that trial or those penalties, so both sides interests in avoiding it were served.
And, if the felony charges were so bogus and political as you claim, don't you think that someone like O'Keefe would have relished fighting them in court? I do. But, of course, we know his answer now: “Guilty.”
It's a plea bargain! They happen in every single case! It's what defense attorneys do; they get the DAs to reduce the charge in exchange for a guilty plea.
Did some of you miss the "guilty" part?
Good grief.
He didn't have to. They dropped them remember?
Were you there? Or are you just going on ACORN's statements, sorry, but I trust an independent journalist more than a corrupt community organization ATM.
Then you wouldn't mind sourcing it I suppose.I trust the full transcript from said "independent journalist."
And the police who reviewed it with the same conclusion that I reached.
I've been over this a thousand times already, so I'll summarize:
1) Pimp never dressed as a pimp in the ACORN offices. He went in in slacks and a tie or something
2) Pimp was actually presented as the girl's boyfriend, not her pimp.
3) The house they were trying to get a loan for was actually presented as an escape from prostitution (and an abusive pimp), both for the girl and for the underage girls talked about later. An escape from child prostitution, not a haven for it.
4) Tax lady did not help the girl evade taxes, she in fact explicitly advised her to always declare income from any source. Even an illegal source. (the IRS is not tasked with investigating or prosecuting the sex trade)
5) The segments of video that showed the above were all edited out of the released video
Is that why you cut off the part where I quoted you? :roll: …
Mr. Independent journalist had damning video, because he wasn't acting as a law enforcement official and the video was obtained without a warrant it would not be admissable as evidence. However ACORN was guilty as sin....but appeal to the court is fine when the results go your way isn't it.:roll:The individual to to whom you refer, is neither independent, nor a credible journalist. Acorn has been found not guilty of any unlawful actions, unlike Mr "independent journalist"
Plea bargains are not offered if a solid case for the prosecution exists, and there is no way the Federal prosecutors file reduced charges against O'Keefe after what he and his partner took down Obama's pals at ACORN if they had a bigger case.
Is that why you cut off the part where I quoted you? :roll:
All speculation on your part.
He didn't have to. They dropped them remember?
Having problems providing that link I requested or just incapable?Surely you must have some inside information we lack. Enlighten us!
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