Case where teenager was shot/killed over loud music starts Mon[W:841, 1051,1314,2133]

[reinoe]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

That is flawed logic.

:lamo
If it were relevant surely Dunn would have mentioned "I was threatened with a knife" instead of "I thought I saw a shotgun".

 

[Buck Ewer]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

Here is the lyrics to the music that the thugs were playing at very lod volume. It is typical thug music that thugs tend to listen to all the time.




Lil Reese



Then some people have the audacity to claim that it was Dunn who had the gangster mentality.



It's ****ing pathetic.

Did you ever watch the movie Scarface? I'll bet you did and I'll bet you enjoyed it...
In that movie Al Pachino played a gangster who cold bloodedly kills dozens of people by the end of the movie.
Not my cup of tea and neither is Reese's work , but both are something we call entertainment.
I have watched Scarface and I am not a gangster and I do not have murder in my heart.
I can't see why Reese's recording would have more influence on his audience than Al Pacino's.

Just out of curiosity ... when was the last time you used the word "thug" to describe someone who wasn't black?
It is widely come to be known that the term "thug" has lately become an acceptable right wing substitute for the "N" word.

 

[Muhammed]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

A stapler can be a deadly weapon.

Irrelevant. It was a tactical bladed weapon, not a stapler. Stick to the facts.

 

[Muhammed]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

:lamo
If it were relevant surely Dunn would have mentioned "I was threatened with a knife" instead of "I thought I saw a shotgun".

Could you explain how you came to that ridiculous conclusion?

 

[mak2]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

What do you know of facts? It was in his pocket.

Irrelevant. It was a tactical bladed weapon, not a stapler. Stick to the facts.

 

[mak2]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

to be in fear of ones life you would have to be aware of the weapon. You have jumped so far over the shark you just aint any fun anymore.

Could you explain how you came to that ridiculous conclusion?

 

[Buck Ewer]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

That is flawed logic. Dunn said he saw something in the thug's hand. Maybe it wasnt a gun, but a knife. It wasn't exactly the best conditions to tell. It was at night. The Durango had thuggish tinted windows etc.

One thing for sure is that all the LWNJs who said Davis was unarmed are liars.

Why do you suppose they lie about things like that? What does that tell you about their character?

If Dunn was so drunk that he couldn't tell a pocket knife from a shotgun he certainly had no business behind the wheel of a car.
In his hand, opened and brandished, the pocket knife could be seen as a potential weapon.
Closed and in his pocket it was nothing more than an unused tool. Before 911 the airlines allowed you to carry a pocket knife with a blade of 4 inches or less on their airplanes.
I carry a pocket knife with me all the time. I do not consider myself as "armed".
You are clearly grasping at straws.

 

[Muhammed]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

What do you know of facts? It was in his pocket.

It was found in his pocket much later. That is not evidence that he never pulled it. We don't know when the last time he put it in his pocket was. it could have been before or after he was shot by a real-life hero.

But the fact that he was illegally carrying a concealed weapon combined with the fact that he was in the vehicle of a convicted three time felon, playing thug music and even his own mother admitted that he had a history of violence speaks volumes.

It makes Dunn's account more credible in any reasonable, rational person's mind.

That is part of the reason I think Dunn has a good chance of being acquitted.

 

[Muhammed]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

to be in fear of ones life you would have to be aware of the weapon.

That is not true.

In fact, it's an absolutely ridiculous statement.

If you cannot admit that fact then I am done with you.

 

[mak2]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

You cant shoot a guy for threating you with a deadly weapon if you dont know he has it. This thread as made that inevitable turn to Sillyville.

That is not true.

 

[Buck Ewer]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

That is not true.

In fact, it's an absolutely ridiculous statement.

If you cannot admit that fact then I am done with you.

How could you fear something you do not know exists?
We are definitely in "Sillyville" now fer sure.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

That is flawed logic. Dunn said he saw something in the thug's hand. Maybe it wasnt a gun, but a knife. It wasn't exactly the best conditions to tell. It was at night. The Durango had thuggish tinted windows etc.

One thing for sure is that all the LWNJs who said Davis was unarmed are liars.

Why do you suppose they lie about things like that? What does that tell you about their character?

so now in this case Dunns statement doesnt count? LOL

talk about hypocritical and you exposing yourself


did DUnn clear see a shotgun that was protruding 3 to 4 inches and he even took guess at the caliber and make since he proclaims he is familiar with guns

oooooor

is it now that it was so dark a tactical nife looked like a shotgun through the tinted windows lol

which is it?

please stop destroying and owning your own posts

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

Irrelevant. It was a tactical bladed weapon, not a stapler. Stick to the facts.

facts are it was in his pocket and dunn never mentioned a knife and witness never saw a knife :shrug:

facts win again

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

Could you explain how you came to that ridiculous conclusion?

common sense

facts win again

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

1.)It was found in his pocket much later. That is not evidence that he never pulled it. We don't know when the last time he put it in his pocket was. it could have been before or after he was shot by a real-life hero.

2.)But the fact that he was illegally carrying a concealed weapon combined with the fact that he was in the vehicle of a convicted three time felon, playing thug music and even his own mother admitted that he had a history of violence speaks volumes.

3.) It makes Dunn's account more credible in any reasonable, rational person's mind.

4.)That is part of the reason I think Dunn has a good chance of being acquitted.

1.) and we dont know if DUnn threatened the kids and told them he'd kill them or showed his nunchucks or silencer to them first
2.) its illegal to have a knife in flordia? and what about DUnns history? thats doesnt count? he also had a silencer and nunchucks in his car, committed crimes for a company he worked for beats his woman and tried to hire a hitman.

that speaks VOLUMES lol

3.) unless you actually look at the facts

4.) wanna bet? lol

 

[Muhammed]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

You cant shoot a guy for threating you with a deadly weapon if you dont know he has it. This thread as made that inevitable turn to Sillyville.

The threat doesn't even need to involve a weapon in the first place.

Do you seriously think that it is likely that the thug did not threaten to kill Dunn? Or are you just politically against SYG and that is making you take an irrational position? Or what?

You are making no sense.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

1.)The threat doesn't even need to involve a weapon in the first place.
2.)Do you seriously think that it is likely that the thug did not threaten to kill Dunn?
3.) Or are you just politically against SYG
4.) and that is making you take an irrational position? Or what?
5.)You are making no sense.

1.) nope it doesnt but since the response was 10 shots in return and nobody even got out of the car to make any threats Dunns in deep trouble
2.) yes i think the thugg dunn likely threatened the kids when he said "your not gonna talk to me like that"
3.) I support SYG in most cases
4.) rational is going by the evidence that can be corroborated and that looks bad for dunn
5.) accept for the facts he pointed out that defeat your posts

 

[mak2]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

I am mainly just against stupid, and if there is not some big piece of evedicen we are not aware of, defending this guy is stupid. I am very pro gun but think stupid people like this guy and Zimmerman will give the antigunners more ammo. I dont think I should have to retreat, but if that is the smartest course of action one should. Mindlessly defending people who shoot unarmed minors is not the smartest course of action, if you are really pro gun rights.

The threat doesn't even need to involve a weapon in the first place.

Do you seriously think that it is likely that the thug did not threaten to kill Dunn? Or are you just politically against SYG and that is making you take an irrational position? Or what?

You are making no sense.

 

[Muhammed]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

I am mainly just against stupid, and if there is not some big piece of evedicen we are not aware of, defending this guy is stupid. I am very pro gun but think stupid people like this guy and Zimmerman will give the antigunners more ammo. I dont think I should have to retreat, but if that is the smartest course of action one should. Mindlessly defending people who shoot unarmed minors is not the smartest course of action, if you are really pro gun rights.

So do you think he should have fled and left his spouse there?

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

So do you think he should have fled and left his spouse there?

he shouldn't have acted unreasonable and irresponsible and killed a kid which will soon prove to be murder

 

[Smeagol]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

Dunn should have just pleaded insanity. That's what it looks like he was suffering from. Play up the paranoid delusions angle because the "I thought I saw a shotgun through tinted windows" has seemed ridiculous from the outset. Right up there with "the music was loud that it was offensive but I also clearly heard them threaten to kill me".

And the worst part is that if it was just a solo kid, a person by themselves, and Dunn did this he'd probably be able to get away with it.

I'm not a drinker but isn't it possible for people to "see things" while under the influence of alcohol or is that just marijuana?

 

[mak2]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

He should not have shot a guy with an imaginary shotgun with anything that is not imaginary.

So do you think he should have fled and left his spouse there?

 

[mak2]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

the only time I am aware of ETOH causing hallucinations is when they are sobering up and having DT's.

I'm not a drinker but isn't it possible for people to "see things" while under the influence of alcohol or is that just marijuana?

 

[Crosscheck]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

Why do you assume that it was impossible for Davis to put the knife back in his pocket after he was shot?

This one takes the cake.

.

 

[Muhammed]

Re: Case where teenager was shot and killed over loud music starts Monday[W:841, 1051

He should not have shot a guy with an imaginary shotgun with anything that is not imaginary.

Now you are just being silly. Back to the IL you go.