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[kaya'08]

Yeah...not really. The problem was in your attempt to evidently draw an equivalence between anti-capitalism and Nazism.

I would respect communism more if they we're more human rights, freedom orientated. Unfortunately this is not the case, Democracy is a unique system because it incorporates freedom of elections, freedom in the market, freedom to make ones way to the top, freedom in life. A classless society cannot function. A market economy needs an incentive to create professional jobs and innovation, a classless society does no such thing. America's capitalist ways have been the driving force of its modernization, prosperity, and innovation. Communisms just fall and crumble, as did Vietnam, Eastern Europe, Russia, and eventually China. If America falls, its capitalists ways would have been the last reason. A governments role is essential in the well being and maintanence of the market and economic infrastructure. A government is vital.

A classless society is in essence a dream when fed into the mind of a young child who cannot intepret the economic and social consequences as well as an adult.

 

[Agnapostate]

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Aside from the obvious dismissal of the anti-democratic elements inherent in capitalism present in this post, you've again engaged in your usual fallacious conflation of communism and state capitalism, a tactic that I lost interest in providing extensive rebuttal to long ago.

 

[kaya'08]

Aside from the obvious dismissal of the anti-democratic elements inherent in capitalism present in this post,

Explain?

you've again engaged in your usual fallacious conflation of communism and state capitalism, a tactic that I lost interest in providing extensive rebuttal to long ago.

Then please explain to me at the very least. What is the difference between communism and Karl Marx's communism of a classless state?

 

[Agnapostate]

Explain?

That's not the focus of this thread.

Then please explain to me at the very least. What is the difference between communism and Karl Marx's communism of a classless state?

What?

 

[kaya'08]

That's not the focus of this thread.

You cant explain yourself cause you have no idea about what your talking about. Face it, a classless state does not work. Communism is flawed. You rebutted nothing, at least not "extensively" or to any serious measure worth debating back.

 

[Agnapostate]

You cant explain yourself cause you have no idea about what your talking about. Face it, a classless state does not work. Communism is flawed. You rebutted nothing, at least not "extensively" or to any serious measure worth debating back.

If I had any illusion that you had even a kernel of knowledge about political theory or economy, I might care what you thought. Fortunately, after witnessing your application of the term "communism" to the political ideology of state capitalism, I'm quite aware that you do not. :2wave:

 

[kaya'08]

If I had any illusion that you had even a kernel of knowledge about political theory or economy, I might care what you thought. Fortunately, after witnessing your application of the term "communism" to the political ideology of state capitalism, I'm quite aware that you do not. :2wave:

Marxist communism:

Karl Heinrich Marx (May 5, 1818 – March 14, 1883) was a German[1] philosopher, political economist, historian, political theorist, sociologist, communist and revolutionary credited as the founder of communism.

Marx summarized his approach to history and politics in the opening line of the first chapter of The Communist Manifesto (1848): “The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.” Marx argued that capitalism, like previous socioeconomic systems, will produce internal tensions which will lead to its destruction.[2] Just as capitalism replaced feudalism, socialism will in its turn replace capitalism and lead to a stateless, classless society called pure communism which will emerge after a transitional period, the "dictatorship of the proletariat", a period sometimes referred to as the "workers state" or "workers' democracy" .[3][4]

 

[LaMidRighter]

Well then what other right wing symbols are there for a kid to paint? Besides a republican elephant

Actually Crip, the Nazi party was socialist, also a leftist ideal, not that bad idealogy should be assigned to a side more than condemned, but I am big on accuracy.

 

[LaMidRighter]

My experience with children in my immediate area has led me to believe that most children have very little knowledge of political history or any semblance of responsible citizenship.

At the same time, however, I am tempted to consider that the young adults who did this have put more research and consideration into their choice than most. I do not think it fair to dismiss their actions as the result of "just a bunch of dumb kids". To the contrary, I have my suspicions that these kids are more politically conscious than most.

My one issue is that if these kids did in fact put more thought in than most, saw the history of communism's brutality and complete failure, and still came to the conclusion that they want to be a part of it, I wouldn't exactly call them sane, smart, or politically savvy.

 

[LaMidRighter]

Nazism has often been described as state capitalism

Seriously? Not trying to be cute here, I'm wondering if this is a semantics thing by some less than honest intellectuals, state capitalism is the operating protocol for fascism.

 

[stinagen]

I don't think their is much intervention going on i drew similar stuff in 8th grade but instead of the hammer and sickle it was a anarchist A but capitalism will fall that was all over my folders

 

[Deuce]

I actually invented communism. "Hey, if everybody shared everything, everyone would have what they need! Nobody would be starving or homeless!"
I brought my brilliant plan to my parents. They laughed.

I was five.

 

[liblady]

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Who says Berkley isn't crazy, stupid kids being force fed idiocy...

much ado about nothing. seriously, kids grow up.

 

[liblady]

love the avatar.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

Kids do a lot of idiotic things. I remember in 8th grade a lot of kids would draw anarchy symbols everywhere and pot leaves. It was more an attempt to rebel than anything to be really worried about. Kids like to zero in on controversial topics.

yeah, I remember the Anarchy symbol - on lockers, doors, carved into desks . . . I did that a lot.
And a Trident with a NIN down the stem :shrug: that was huge. . . I even carved it on my leg.

 

[Cold Highway]

These kids should realize that Communist states didnt exactly approve of drug use either.

I'm more disturbed by the flag of France. :2razz:

Huh?

 

[VanceMack]

much ado about nothing. seriously, kids grow up.

Most kids Do in fact grow up. Some...especially some with rich parents...dont. they use mommy and daddy's money to run around the world and protest the evils of capitalism.

It is of course a very juvenile perspective that they adopt...one perspectives offered without much thought. I wonder if those that embrace the idea of anarchy have ever really thought about what that kind of world would look like. And those that promote communism would literally **** themselves if they ever actually had to live under a communist regime. I only hope that someday they get their wish.

 

[roughdraft274]

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Who says Berkley isn't crazy, stupid kids being force fed idiocy...

Where's the marijuana part everybody? I swear I'm going mad looking for it, lol.

If everyone is talking about the symbol on the top right corner then that's not a pot leaf, it's the symbol of an atom with what I believe is an A in the middle, usually used as a symbol for atheist.

 

[Deuce]

Most kids Do in fact grow up. Some...especially some with rich parents...dont. they use mommy and daddy's money to run around the world and protest the evils of capitalism.

It is of course a very juvenile perspective that they adopt...one perspectives offered without much thought. I wonder if those that embrace the idea of anarchy have ever really thought about what that kind of world would look like. And those that promote communism would literally **** themselves if they ever actually had to live under a communist regime. I only hope that someday they get their wish.

Uhh, I'd say more often than not those rich kids you are talking about grow up to be staunch conservatives, fighting the evils of raising taxes on their trust funds.

 

[VanceMack]

Uhh, I'd say more often than not those rich kids you are talking about grow up to be staunch conservatives, fighting the evils of raising taxes on their trust funds.

Often...true...even 'more' often. Thats why I said MOST grow up and only SOME dont. But hey...look...it gave you the opportuntiy to zing in with another pithy comment. So...win win...right?