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Capitalism Will Fail,' Marijuana Leaf Part of California School Mosaic

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Symbols of communism and marijuana and a prediction that "capitalism will fail" aren't exactly the sort of end-of-year messages you'd expect from an eighth grader.

But that's precisely what some students at the Black Pine Circle School, a private school in Berkeley, Calif., chose to include in their "Class of 2007" mosaic.

The symbols, which are prominently displayed outside the school, have prompted questions about the appropriateness of images like a hammer and sickle and a marijuana leaf on school grounds — and have led critics to say they are blatant proof of political indoctrination of young children.
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Who says Berkley isn't crazy, stupid kids being force fed idiocy...
 
Black Pine Circle School, a private school in Berkeley, Calif
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It's a private school, they can do pretty much as they choose. I can see why they would let kids do this, though I am not sure if I was in charge I would have let them.
 
Wow...well I suppose it's kids and all. But still...the sickle and hammer!?
 
Ikari said:
Wow...well I suppose it's kids and all. But still...the sickle and hammer!?
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At that age, I was enamored of communism. I learned later just how poorly it works in the real world. The theory sounds really great to a 13ish year old though.
 
I'm more disturbed by the flag of France. :2razz:
 
My experience with children in my immediate area has led me to believe that most children have very little knowledge of political history or any semblance of responsible citizenship.

At the same time, however, I am tempted to consider that the young adults who did this have put more research and consideration into their choice than most. I do not think it fair to dismiss their actions as the result of "just a bunch of dumb kids". To the contrary, I have my suspicions that these kids are more politically conscious than most.
 
schools indoctrinate kids with the belief that business is bad and government is good. They are taught to believe that war equals an economic boom. The greatest presidents are the ones that engaged in wars and implemented massive social programs.

It's only going to get worse I'm afraid.
 
Being someone who is still rather young I know where the kid that did that is coming from. I went to a private school as well and also dabbled in things such as Anarchy, Communism, and Socialism. I think that the reason we do this is because it's against the establishment, but also because you want a better man-kind and things like Communism sound great on paper. Obviously, those political systems are all terribly flawed just as complete Capitalism.

Bottom-line it isn't dangerous. The kid's views will change as he grows older and becomes more immersed in politics.

Being a student of public and private schooling, and now in a public college; I argue that there is liberal indocrination.

Do some teacher's have opinions that they express? Yes.
For me history was objective, so far as this happened and afterwards this happened. Common sense puts two and two together - Cause and Effect.

Just because you don't want it to be true doesn't make it so.
 
w0mpx said:
Being someone who is still rather young I know where the kid that did that is coming from. I went to a private school as well and also dabbled in things such as Anarchy, Communism, and Socialism. I think that the reason we do this is because it's against the establishment, but also because you want a better man-kind and things like Communism sound great on paper. Obviously, those political systems are all terribly flawed just as complete Capitalism.

Bottom-line it isn't dangerous. The kid's views will change as he grows older and becomes more immersed in politics.

Being a student of public and private schooling, and now in a public college; I argue that there is liberal indocrination.

Do some teacher's have opinions that they express? Yes.
For me history was objective, so far as this happened and afterwards this happened. Common sense puts two and two together - Cause and Effect.

Just because you don't want it to be true doesn't make it so.
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WOW! Stupid typo on my part. I meant to say that there isn't liberal indoctrination. Sorry for that.
 
MrVicchio said:
Who says Berkley isn't crazy, stupid kids being force fed idiocy...
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It's called "rebellion." Even the smart ones do it. It's a part of the natural development of your average human being.

TED,
Still has the 10-pound tow chain he wore for a year as a fashion accessory. :lol:
 
w0mpx said:
WOW! Stupid typo on my part. I meant to say that there isn't liberal indoctrination. Sorry for that.
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Did you have to do standardized testing?
 
It's quite apparent that the accusation of "political indoctrination" only exists because the political symbols placed on the mosaic were leftist in nature. Had they been rightist in nature, those condemning them now would likely be complimenting the precocity of the students. As it were, there's not sufficient evidence of "indoctrination," particularly since parental influence has a major role in forming the ideological and political views of effectively everyone, and isn't necessarily "indoctrination."
 
Agnapostate said:
It's quite apparent that the accusation of "political indoctrination" only exists because the political symbols placed on the mosaic were leftist in nature. Had they been rightist in nature, those condemning them now would likely be complimenting the precocity of the students. As it were, there's not sufficient evidence of "indoctrination," particularly since parental influence has a major role in forming the ideological and political views of effectively everyone, and isn't necessarily "indoctrination."
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Yes, because nobody would be alarmed by kids painting a Nazi flag.
 
WI Crippler said:
Yes, because nobody would be alarmed by kids painting a Nazi flag.
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Well, Nazism implies beliefs in racist ideology even apart from jingoistic nationalism and fascism. Anti-capitalism and support for communism doesn't quite imply the same; there doesn't seem a sound basis for comparison. That said, my own personal comments wouldn't have changed if a swastika or Nazi flag had been painted.
 
Agnapostate said:
Well, Nazism implies beliefs in racist ideology even apart from jingoistic nationalism and fascism. Anti-capitalism and support for communism doesn't quite imply the same; there doesn't seem a sound basis for comparison. That said, my own personal comments wouldn't have changed if a swastika or Nazi flag had been painted.
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Well then what other right wing symbols are there for a kid to paint? Besides a republican elephant
 
Agnapostate said:
What? A dollar sign is used by pro-capitalists as a political symbol. I didn't mention "indoctrination."
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I thought we were debating whether or not the school in question was indoctrinating kids with left-wing ideology since the children deigned to throw up the hammer & sickle, and "Capitalism will fail". You then turned it around, by saying it wouldn't be so offensive to so many, if it right wing in nature to which you have supplied the dollar sign as being symbolic of right wing political ideology.
 
WI Crippler said:
I thought we were debating whether or not the school in question was indoctrinating kids with left-wing ideology since the children deigned to throw up the hammer & sickle, and "Capitalism will fail". You then turned it around, by saying it wouldn't be so offensive to so many, if it right wing in nature to which you have supplied the dollar sign as being symbolic of right wing political ideology.
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Forget the dollar sign. What about a cross and biblical passage? Or "Global Warming is a lie" with a sun next to it?
 
WI Crippler said:
I thought we were debating whether or not the school in question was indoctrinating kids with left-wing ideology since the children deigned to throw up the hammer & sickle, and "Capitalism will fail". You then turned it around, by saying it wouldn't be so offensive to so many, if it right wing in nature to which you have supplied the dollar sign as being symbolic of right wing political ideology.
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I did, but I never claimed that it was "indoctrination" in the first place (even rather young children have mental capacities that exceed the expectations of adults), and would not have claimed so if I had seen rightist political symbols painted into the mosaic.
 
Edify_Always_In_All_Ways said:
Forget the dollar sign. What about a cross and biblical passage? Or "Global Warming is a lie" with a sun next to it?
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The cross is not a right wing symbol, its a religious symbol. That would count as some kind of religious indoctrination, not necessarily right/left.

If they had painted "global warming is a lie, then yes I would agree they are being fed some right wing ideals.

But they didn't. These kids painted a hammer and sickle, Capitalism will fail, etc....
 
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